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Patient involvement in NICE
  technology appraisals

            Marcia Kelson, Associate Director,
       Patient and Public Involvement Programme
National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE)
Outline of presentation


3. Opportunities for patient and carer involvement in NICE
   technology appraisals

5. What patients say about involvement
The Role of NICE
To provide national guidance on the promotion
of good health and the prevention and treatment
of ill health.

Most NICE guidance draws on evidence of both
clinical and cost effectiveness
NICE activities…

 NICE produces three main types of guidance
Essential features of
NICE guidance

  •   Robust
  •   Transparent
  •   Inclusive
  •   Independent
NICE patient/public involvement policy

The views of patients and the public matter to NICE.
We want to involve them, as well as doctors, nurses,
other healthcare professionals and managers in our
work.

By working with patients, patient organisations and
the public, NICE aims to produce guidance that
addresses patient/ public issues, reflects their
views and meets their healthcare needs.
When can patients get involved in
NICE technology appraisals?
            Topic suggestion

                  Scoping

   Evidence submission & review                       Patient and carer
                                                      participation
  Committee meeting 1 (with experts)                  throughout process
  Multiple and some single technology appraisals

               Consultation                        Single Technology
                                                    appraisals only

         Committee meeting 2

                Publication
Patient involvement in NICE
appraisals: who gets involved?
• Three lay people on each appraisal committee
• National, condition/client relevant patient groups can:
   - comment on draft documents
   - provide written submissions of evidence
   - nominate patient experts
   - [appeal]
• Individual patients/carers can attend as patient experts
• Anyone can suggest topics/comment on draft
  recommendations
• Citizens Council advises on overarching societal values
What information do patients provide
to NICE?

• The personal impact of the condition
• Outcomes patients want from the technology
• The impact of a technology on outcome, symptoms,
  physical & social functioning, quality of life
• Ease of use, side effects and costs of the technology
• Subgroups who benefit more/less from the technology
• Information that complements/challenges professional or
  researcher views

NICE states that patient evidence is most useful when it balances positive and negative views
What do patients say about
  the NICE appraisals
        process?
Sources of information on
            patient views

• The Press
• Formal commentaries from patient organisations
• Informal feedback from patient organisations and
  involved patients
• NICE survey of patient experts
Patient views in the press
Views about the NICE appraisals
process: patient organisation views *
General acceptance of NICE role but concerns about:

•   Lack of research evidence on patient views/preferences
•   Outcome/quality of life measures often determined by professionals/
    researchers
•   The weighting NICE places on patient evidence
•   Technical language/modelling are difficult to engage with/challenge
•   NICE ‘blight’
•   Variable access to NICE recommended technologies

* Source: patient group submissions, Health Select Committee 2007
Views about the NICE appraisals
process: survey of patient experts
•   82% patient experts said overall experience of committee
    meetings was excellent or good                  18% said fair or poor


•   96% understood all the questions that were asked

•   38% fully understood the slide presentation              62% didn’t



•   42% fully understood the committee discussions              46% didn’t



•   82% felt they had the opportunity to raise all the issues they
    wanted to          16% didn’t
Patient quotes (1)
• “NICE plays a critical role in ensuring that NHS treatment
  is equitable, cost effective and of a uniformly high
  standard.” 

• “NICE listened carefully to patient representations […] and
  changed their technology appraisals as a consequence” 

• “NICE has provided a valuable conduit to address issues
  surrounding South Asian health, a conduit that before the
  inception of NICE never existed.” 
Patient quotes (2)
• “The views of patients may not always be given as much
  weighting as the more traditional sources of evidence.” 

• “Evidence from people with experience of the drugs is used
  as pointers to consider further published research rather than
  as evidence in its own right: Methods for incorporating patient
  evidence into the appraisal process should be developed” 

• “Decisions place greater weight on evidence for survival
  benefits of treatment, than on improvements to quality of life” 
Patient quotes (3)
• “Committee meetings can be intimidating for patient experts […]
  dominated by technical discussion” 

• “Health economists seem to find it particularly difficult to present
  their work in a form that is intelligible to the non-specialist. It is
  therefore very difficult for a lay participant to challenge the
  economic evidence.” 

• “Clinical trial design should be re-evaluated to ensure that
  appropriate evidence is presented to NICE.” 
Challenges for patient involvement

•
                             in HTA
    Patient involvement is resource and time intensive

•   Eliciting information relevant to HTA (what and how?)

•   Complexity and technical nature of HTA

•   Maximising transparency in how patient views influence decision
    making

•   Managing expectations

•   You cannot please all of the people all of the time!
Thank you for listening

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Patient Views on Involvement in NICE Technology Appraisals

  • 1. Patient involvement in NICE technology appraisals Marcia Kelson, Associate Director, Patient and Public Involvement Programme National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE)
  • 2. Outline of presentation 3. Opportunities for patient and carer involvement in NICE technology appraisals 5. What patients say about involvement
  • 3. The Role of NICE To provide national guidance on the promotion of good health and the prevention and treatment of ill health. Most NICE guidance draws on evidence of both clinical and cost effectiveness
  • 4. NICE activities… NICE produces three main types of guidance
  • 5. Essential features of NICE guidance • Robust • Transparent • Inclusive • Independent
  • 6. NICE patient/public involvement policy The views of patients and the public matter to NICE. We want to involve them, as well as doctors, nurses, other healthcare professionals and managers in our work. By working with patients, patient organisations and the public, NICE aims to produce guidance that addresses patient/ public issues, reflects their views and meets their healthcare needs.
  • 7. When can patients get involved in NICE technology appraisals? Topic suggestion Scoping Evidence submission & review Patient and carer participation Committee meeting 1 (with experts) throughout process Multiple and some single technology appraisals Consultation Single Technology appraisals only Committee meeting 2 Publication
  • 8. Patient involvement in NICE appraisals: who gets involved? • Three lay people on each appraisal committee • National, condition/client relevant patient groups can: - comment on draft documents - provide written submissions of evidence - nominate patient experts - [appeal] • Individual patients/carers can attend as patient experts • Anyone can suggest topics/comment on draft recommendations • Citizens Council advises on overarching societal values
  • 9. What information do patients provide to NICE? • The personal impact of the condition • Outcomes patients want from the technology • The impact of a technology on outcome, symptoms, physical & social functioning, quality of life • Ease of use, side effects and costs of the technology • Subgroups who benefit more/less from the technology • Information that complements/challenges professional or researcher views NICE states that patient evidence is most useful when it balances positive and negative views
  • 10. What do patients say about the NICE appraisals process?
  • 11. Sources of information on patient views • The Press • Formal commentaries from patient organisations • Informal feedback from patient organisations and involved patients • NICE survey of patient experts
  • 12. Patient views in the press
  • 13. Views about the NICE appraisals process: patient organisation views * General acceptance of NICE role but concerns about: • Lack of research evidence on patient views/preferences • Outcome/quality of life measures often determined by professionals/ researchers • The weighting NICE places on patient evidence • Technical language/modelling are difficult to engage with/challenge • NICE ‘blight’ • Variable access to NICE recommended technologies * Source: patient group submissions, Health Select Committee 2007
  • 14. Views about the NICE appraisals process: survey of patient experts • 82% patient experts said overall experience of committee meetings was excellent or good 18% said fair or poor • 96% understood all the questions that were asked • 38% fully understood the slide presentation 62% didn’t • 42% fully understood the committee discussions 46% didn’t • 82% felt they had the opportunity to raise all the issues they wanted to 16% didn’t
  • 15. Patient quotes (1) • “NICE plays a critical role in ensuring that NHS treatment is equitable, cost effective and of a uniformly high standard.”  • “NICE listened carefully to patient representations […] and changed their technology appraisals as a consequence”  • “NICE has provided a valuable conduit to address issues surrounding South Asian health, a conduit that before the inception of NICE never existed.” 
  • 16. Patient quotes (2) • “The views of patients may not always be given as much weighting as the more traditional sources of evidence.”  • “Evidence from people with experience of the drugs is used as pointers to consider further published research rather than as evidence in its own right: Methods for incorporating patient evidence into the appraisal process should be developed”  • “Decisions place greater weight on evidence for survival benefits of treatment, than on improvements to quality of life” 
  • 17. Patient quotes (3) • “Committee meetings can be intimidating for patient experts […] dominated by technical discussion”  • “Health economists seem to find it particularly difficult to present their work in a form that is intelligible to the non-specialist. It is therefore very difficult for a lay participant to challenge the economic evidence.”  • “Clinical trial design should be re-evaluated to ensure that appropriate evidence is presented to NICE.” 
  • 18. Challenges for patient involvement • in HTA Patient involvement is resource and time intensive • Eliciting information relevant to HTA (what and how?) • Complexity and technical nature of HTA • Maximising transparency in how patient views influence decision making • Managing expectations • You cannot please all of the people all of the time!
  • 19. Thank you for listening