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www.iprocon.com1 www.iprocon.comiProCon: Better HR1
SAP on-premise Travel Management and
Concur Travel & Expense:
an attempt to compare apples with pears
iProConference 2015
Sven Ringling
www.iprocon.com2 iProCon: Better HR
Agenda
• Introducing Both Tools
• Comparison Overview
• So What?
• How we do Expenses at iProCon UK
• Dipping Into Some Differences
• Wrap-up
www.iprocon.com3 iProCon: Better HR
The Contenders
Concur
• Service
• In the cloud and on device
• Specialised T&E solution (+
invoice)
• Corporate and SME (and
consumer)
• Subscription fee based on
claims
• American
SAP
• Solution
• On premise and a wee bit on
device
• T&E part of a finance product,
which is part of an ERP system
• Corporate and medium
businesses
• Licence plus maintenance fee
based on users
• German with some American
touch
www.iprocon.com4 iProCon: Better HR
Agenda
• Introducing Both Tools
• Comparison Overview
• So What?
• How we do Expenses at iProCon UK
• Dipping Into Some Differences
• Wrap-up
www.iprocon.com5 iProCon: Better HR
Comparison overview
SAP on-premise Concur T&E
Pre-trip - +
In trip Not supported +
Post trip + +
Non-trip expenses - +
Integration into SAP HR and FICO + -
Vendor integration - +
Value adding services - +
User experience - +
Localisation: HR / personal tax + -
Localisation: financials / VAT - +
Extreme customisation + -
Ease of deployment - +
Organisational and cultural alignment + -
www.iprocon.com6 iProCon: Better HR
Agenda
• Introducing Both Tools
• Comparison Overview
• So What?
• How we do Expenses at iProCon UK
• Dipping Into Some Differences
• Wrap-up
www.iprocon.com7 iProCon: Better HR
What Should we do?
New T&E solution required
• Default choice: Concur
• On-prem only, if strong arguments based on legal or
biz requirements and postponement not possible
SAP on-prem is in place
• Default choice: wait and watch integration
• Switch to Concur, if large investment in on-prem
solution required
www.iprocon.com8 iProCon: Better HR
Agenda
• Introducing Both Tools
• Comparison Overview
• So What?
• How we do Expenses at iProCon UK
• Dipping Into Some Differences
• Wrap-up
www.iprocon.com9 iProCon: Better HR
www.iprocon.com10 iProCon: Better HR
Agenda
• Introducing Both Tools
• Comparison Overview
• So What?
• How we do Expenses at iProCon UK
• Dipping Into Some Differences
• Wrap-up
www.iprocon.com11 iProCon: Better HR
Comparison overview
SAP on-premise Concur T&E
Pre-trip - +
In trip Not supported +
Post trip + +
Non-trip expenses - +
Integration into SAP HR and FICO + -
Vendor integration - +
Value adding services - +
User experience - +
Localisation: HR / personal tax + -
Localisation: financials / VAT - +
Extreme customisation + -
Ease of deployment - +
Organisational and cultural alignment + -
www.iprocon.com12 iProCon: Better HR
The 3 process phases
• Pre-trip:
– Concur is miles ahead in vendor integration
• In-trip:
– Tripit App does help your travellers “on the road”
• Post-trip:
– Both solutions cover the process well
– Concur: central object = “Claim”  per-diem issue
– On-prem: central object = “Trip”
www.iprocon.com13 iProCon: Better HR
Localisation
• SAP on-prem:
– Strong in payroll integration
– Expense legislation
like German Public Sector
• Concur
– Very good out-of-the box support for local VAT
peculiarities, e.g. in the UK:
• Asks whether meal is take away or not
• Asks whether parking is on or off street
• Guides you through receipt allocation for mileage VAT-
reclaim
www.iprocon.com14 iProCon: Better HR
The Organisation
Concur
• Comes across as very American –
very salesy, possibly “loud” for
European standards
• Mixed messages about role of
agencies
• Still struggling with Service Partner
concept
• Very protective of core solution
• Very good with solution partners
SAP on-prem
• Some customers complain about
elements of Americanisation
• Understand typical corporate ERP
customers and their desire to be in
control
• Very open about the core solution
• Not many solution partners
www.iprocon.com15 iProCon: Better HR
Agenda
• Introducing Both Tools
• Comparison Overview
• So What?
• How we do Expenses at iProCon UK
• Dipping Into Some Differences
• Wrap-up
www.iprocon.com16 iProCon: Better HR
Key Points to Take Home
• Concur is fully playing to the strengths of cloud architecture in
– vendor integration
– additional services
– Mobile apps
• For very bespoke requirements in Workflow, per diem calculations or
posting you need to check carefully, whether Concur can do it
• You can probably deploy Concur twice as fast as on-prem
• Concur-SAP integration exists, but needs to (and will) improve
• Concur as an organisation is still coming to grips with the typical SAP
customer and the SAP universe
• Concur is almost certainly the best long-term option and probably a good
starting point for the cloud
www.iprocon.com17 iProCon: Better HR
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Concur vs SAP on premise Travel Management

  • 1. www.iprocon.com1 www.iprocon.comiProCon: Better HR1 SAP on-premise Travel Management and Concur Travel & Expense: an attempt to compare apples with pears iProConference 2015 Sven Ringling
  • 2. www.iprocon.com2 iProCon: Better HR Agenda • Introducing Both Tools • Comparison Overview • So What? • How we do Expenses at iProCon UK • Dipping Into Some Differences • Wrap-up
  • 3. www.iprocon.com3 iProCon: Better HR The Contenders Concur • Service • In the cloud and on device • Specialised T&E solution (+ invoice) • Corporate and SME (and consumer) • Subscription fee based on claims • American SAP • Solution • On premise and a wee bit on device • T&E part of a finance product, which is part of an ERP system • Corporate and medium businesses • Licence plus maintenance fee based on users • German with some American touch
  • 4. www.iprocon.com4 iProCon: Better HR Agenda • Introducing Both Tools • Comparison Overview • So What? • How we do Expenses at iProCon UK • Dipping Into Some Differences • Wrap-up
  • 5. www.iprocon.com5 iProCon: Better HR Comparison overview SAP on-premise Concur T&E Pre-trip - + In trip Not supported + Post trip + + Non-trip expenses - + Integration into SAP HR and FICO + - Vendor integration - + Value adding services - + User experience - + Localisation: HR / personal tax + - Localisation: financials / VAT - + Extreme customisation + - Ease of deployment - + Organisational and cultural alignment + -
  • 6. www.iprocon.com6 iProCon: Better HR Agenda • Introducing Both Tools • Comparison Overview • So What? • How we do Expenses at iProCon UK • Dipping Into Some Differences • Wrap-up
  • 7. www.iprocon.com7 iProCon: Better HR What Should we do? New T&E solution required • Default choice: Concur • On-prem only, if strong arguments based on legal or biz requirements and postponement not possible SAP on-prem is in place • Default choice: wait and watch integration • Switch to Concur, if large investment in on-prem solution required
  • 8. www.iprocon.com8 iProCon: Better HR Agenda • Introducing Both Tools • Comparison Overview • So What? • How we do Expenses at iProCon UK • Dipping Into Some Differences • Wrap-up
  • 10. www.iprocon.com10 iProCon: Better HR Agenda • Introducing Both Tools • Comparison Overview • So What? • How we do Expenses at iProCon UK • Dipping Into Some Differences • Wrap-up
  • 11. www.iprocon.com11 iProCon: Better HR Comparison overview SAP on-premise Concur T&E Pre-trip - + In trip Not supported + Post trip + + Non-trip expenses - + Integration into SAP HR and FICO + - Vendor integration - + Value adding services - + User experience - + Localisation: HR / personal tax + - Localisation: financials / VAT - + Extreme customisation + - Ease of deployment - + Organisational and cultural alignment + -
  • 12. www.iprocon.com12 iProCon: Better HR The 3 process phases • Pre-trip: – Concur is miles ahead in vendor integration • In-trip: – Tripit App does help your travellers “on the road” • Post-trip: – Both solutions cover the process well – Concur: central object = “Claim”  per-diem issue – On-prem: central object = “Trip”
  • 13. www.iprocon.com13 iProCon: Better HR Localisation • SAP on-prem: – Strong in payroll integration – Expense legislation like German Public Sector • Concur – Very good out-of-the box support for local VAT peculiarities, e.g. in the UK: • Asks whether meal is take away or not • Asks whether parking is on or off street • Guides you through receipt allocation for mileage VAT- reclaim
  • 14. www.iprocon.com14 iProCon: Better HR The Organisation Concur • Comes across as very American – very salesy, possibly “loud” for European standards • Mixed messages about role of agencies • Still struggling with Service Partner concept • Very protective of core solution • Very good with solution partners SAP on-prem • Some customers complain about elements of Americanisation • Understand typical corporate ERP customers and their desire to be in control • Very open about the core solution • Not many solution partners
  • 15. www.iprocon.com15 iProCon: Better HR Agenda • Introducing Both Tools • Comparison Overview • So What? • How we do Expenses at iProCon UK • Dipping Into Some Differences • Wrap-up
  • 16. www.iprocon.com16 iProCon: Better HR Key Points to Take Home • Concur is fully playing to the strengths of cloud architecture in – vendor integration – additional services – Mobile apps • For very bespoke requirements in Workflow, per diem calculations or posting you need to check carefully, whether Concur can do it • You can probably deploy Concur twice as fast as on-prem • Concur-SAP integration exists, but needs to (and will) improve • Concur as an organisation is still coming to grips with the typical SAP customer and the SAP universe • Concur is almost certainly the best long-term option and probably a good starting point for the cloud