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1. John MacArthur: Why We Could "NOT"
Biblically Unite With Him
Note:
This article is about how to decide, using God's Word, when to
leave or not unite with a body and we then give you an example
in John MacArthur.
The Lord's Word gives His true people specific instruction on
who to unite with and who to not associate with at all. If we
claim Him, we must hold true to His Word, amen? We would
like to start this post with some questions:
Who do you unite with as the true body of Christ ?
Why would you dis-associate with others biblically?
On what scripture do you use to decide this matter?
There is much confusion and unbiblical teaching today on what
is a true body of Christ.
In this "so called" post Christian nation there are many warped
and perverted religious systems
(catholicism/denominationalism/evangelicialism) and many
people struggle and are trapped in them daily. Compromise is

2. the main way and the decision of "WHEN" or when "NOT" to
unite with a group of others who gather in Christ's name is one
of those decisions and struggles we want to cover here. In the
past years we have had to leave and not associate with bodies
that we have come across (or have come to us) for various
theological reasons. We believe what God's Holy Word says in
full (and the Apostle Paul instructed us) to keep the body of
Christ pure by separating with those in sin or unsound doctrines
and NOT to compromise for unity sake.
2 Thessalonians 3:14
Take special note of anyone who does not obey our instruction
in this letter. Do not associate with them, in order that they may
feel ashamed. 15
Yet do not regard them as an enemy, but warn
them as you would a fellow believer.
Romans 16:17
Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions
and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and
avoid them.
1 Corinthians 5
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and
such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles,
that one should have his father's wife.

3. 2
And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that
hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3
For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have
judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that
hath so done this deed,
4
In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered
together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the
flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6
Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven
leaveneth the whole lump?
7
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump,
as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed
for us:
8
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither
with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the
unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with
the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye
needs go out of the world.
11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any
man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an
idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such
an one no not to eat.

4. 12
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do
not ye judge them that are within?
Before we any go further we would point you to this post we
did that biblically lays out the characteristics of a TRUE New
Testament Christian body. Please read/listen to that first then it
will help you to understand our key points as we move ahead on
this post.
Click here to read about the TRUE New Testament Christian
Church
Many will (sadly) base the decision to unite or not to unite on
their feelings, preferences and personal ideals. This is very
wrong and leads to a sinful carnal, man centered life not a
biblical Christ centered life.
You may then ask what is the correct godly criteria that a true
follower of Christ should use in helping them make this
decision? We are not talking about local church membership as
that is not biblical anyway (Click here for a article on that) but
we are talking about who do you "gather and fellowship with" in
Christ's name and what criteria do you use to make sure your
doing it to honor God fully?
In our research on this topic; we stumbled on an article from
John MacArthur of Grace Community in California and we are

5. so glad we did. We are aware of this body, we have studied
them and we have even previously posted about them on our
other blog (see a link below) so people are not swept away in
error with them. While they do have un-biblical issues at John
M's ministry, we admit at times he is very biblical in his
messages. This article info is one of those times and I have
placed a portion of his teaching below for us to use as a guide on
when to unite or not unite with a religious body. It is God's
Word and not from John M at all. The following scripture
guidelines can be used biblically for us all to decide if we will
stay gathering with a body or leave it over its un-biblical issues:
*If heresy on some fundamental truth is being taught from the
pulpit (Gal 1:7-9).
*If the leaders of the church tolerate seriously errant doctrine
from any who are given teaching authority in the fellowship
(Romans 16;17).
*If the church is characterized by a wanton disregard for
Scripture, such as a refusal to discipline members who are
sinning blatantly (1 Cor 5).
*If unholy living is tolerated in the church (1 Cor 5).
*If the church is seriously out of step with the biblical pattern
for the church (2 Thess 3).
*If the church is marked by gross hypocrisy, giving lip service
to biblical Christianity but refusing to acknowledge its true
power (2 Tim 3:5).

6. Again we would agree 100% with this portion of the article from
John M. we would encourage you to go read those verses and be
well rooted in them. If you claim Christ, you are called to obey
God's Word and NOT unite with those who do not have sound
doctrine.
Warning: if you let your flesh, tradition, feelings, popularity,
family or love of friends make your spiritual decisions, you
won't be a biblical believer but a compromised one indeed.
Click here to read a article on Division that Jesus taught about
and He Himself brought
What is VERY sad is when we use the same criteria John
MacArthur gives us to determine if you should leave a body
from God's Word, we ourselves could NOT unite with his own
body. In fact 5 out of the 6 reasons he listed do indeed stand
against him. (We do not think he is a heretic but all the rest do
apply to him and the body at GCC.) To be fair and accurate, we
have carefully documented his various errors, how worldly and
unholy they act and train others to be via their own fruit and
videos. Please check it out will you. The truth is he is quite
popular (almost cult like) and in fact if you speak out in anyway
even biblically against John M, your called a trouble maker by
most in the denominational/evangelical world, which proves
even more how undiscerning they are.
Please click here and read about the many un-biblical worldly
and carnal ways that abound at his ministry in California

7. Today we stand on what God's Word says and we will not
compromise on its truth even if we must stand against all of man
made denominational/evangelical false systems on every
corner.
Please test us and then test yourself to God's holy word using
this 10 point test for yourself and your body. Click here for that
test (John M's body fails this simple test)
Sadly it is the NORM that religious places like John
MacArthur's ministry have really left the FULL truth to follow
man's false traditions/ pagan & reformers ways, to be ever more
popular with the itchy ears that sit in their pews. Please do not
be one of them! Again test us and test ALL your own ways to
God's Word (1 Thessalonians 5:21) lest you find you're not in
Christ at all and just a reprobate (2 Corinthians 13:5) You could
be a false convert as we were for so many years in the pews
before we left man made religion to seek the true New
Testament church of Jesus Christ. We hope the resources on our
site will help you find the truth and you will repent of man made
false religious ways.
The Apostle Paul said a small amount of sin would affect the
whole body (Galatians 5:9) and Jesus said to worship in spirit
and truth (John 4:24).
So how can you remove all sin and be in truth if you're sitting in
a compromised body that allows or has sin, error filled

8. traditions, man's false ways and lies at work at its very
foundation every week?
That's something you need to answer, amen?
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come
Let us know how we can assist you in anyway at all.
Jim and Debbie
www.nopews.blogspot.com
narrowroad8711@hotmail.com
608-547-8162