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How Does the Product
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Olexandr (Alex) Prokhorenko
www.linkedin.com/in/white
Product School 8/8/2018
Enterprise Product
Management:
10+ Reasons Not To Do It
or...
Olexandr Prokhorenko
Director, Product Management
Zuora Platform, Pricing & Rating
olexandr@prokhorenko.us
www.linkedin.com/in/white
Moving From Engineering To Product
ManagementI’m an Engineer (by trade)
Built companies (telecom, B2C)
Started in B2B Product Management
Was hyped by B2C Product Management
Now in Enterprise Product Management
Killing my “entrepreneurial bug” by investing
Thoughts are my own and should never be
taken seriouslyThis is me, as an individual, expressing thoughts and beliefs,
telling stories and sharing passion about building great
products with people that care.
Not of my company. (Past or present)
"Excuse me, who are you?"
How to break-in?
Aside from the academics (MBA) path, most people I know:
- Joined as an established subject domain expert
- Took ownership over end-customer facing assets
- Assumed very technical, inbound role
* me
Product Role Differences
in the Enterprise Product
Management
#1. INBOUND and OUTBOUND
Product Impact
Quality
Usability
Adoption
Supportability
Delivery
Backlog
Velocity
vs
Market Research
Positioning
Packaging
Launch
Revenue
Product Direcion
Field Enablement
Analysts
#2. Product Agility
1. Expensive to release (eg. less of iterative, testing-based development >
more of getting things “right” and as close to the requirements,
because the cost of new release is heavily taxed for enterprise)
2. Multistep adoption (eg. Business Processes > Integrations >
Migrations > Enablement > Compliance)
3. Long time to kill (eg. Support (different tracks for support contracts)
> Migrations > Expansion (per and post-EOL) > Renewals > Platform-
as-a-Service > Field Alignment)
#3. Productization vs Customization
1. Professional Services is a necessary evil
2. Excess product customization leads to burnout
3. Customization culture is damaging for product features
targeting larger markets
Professional
Services Goals
Product
Obstacles
#4. Limited Access to the Front Line
Your product penetrates multiple user
personas (Sponsor, Buyer, User, Champion,
Reviewer, ...) for the single account.
You, as PM, are “shielded” from the
customer interfacing with multiple layers of
“relationship and communication
facilitation” managers, and subject to a bias
in user study and gathering requirements
process.
#5. Build Product but Sell Vision
Efforts: How to Build > What to Build
Result: Great Technology < Vision of the Future
It is a lost deal :(
Vision & Best Practices
This is what customer buys
#6. Monetization (is real)
1. Pricing is high
2. Sensitive indirect monetization (can’t “sell your customer”
without consent!)
3. Pricing and packaging can be complex
#7. Biased Customer Insights
1. Limited opportunities to collect customer insights
2. Data bias - millions of signals vs a handful of data points
from your customers
#8. Heavy on Stakeholder Management
1. Build relationships by exchanging information, set
expectations, share culture
2. Over-communicate
3. Align with cross-functional teams agendas
4. Be present all the way through your product lifecycle
#9. Competition
1. Harder to get hands on with the
competitor’s product
2. Befriend market research firms: Gartner,
Forrester, MGI
3. Magic Quadrant: the Good (common
denominator), the Bad (black box, under
representment), and the Evil (bias
towards investors, rather than buyers)
#10. Tolerance to Ambiguity
Ambiguity is a “doubtfulness or uncertainty of meaning or intention”.
You are expected to:
1. effectively cope with change
2. shift gears and correct course
3. make a decision without having the
total picture
4. comfortably handle risk and uncertainty
#11. “NO” HAS ITS PRICE
1. “Listen, listen, understand, know” before rejecting anything
2. Don’t play zero-sum game
3. Don’t fall into tailor-made product features
4. Demonstrate the value without disruption of the product roadmap
5. Be systematic and transparent in your decision making
6. Be wary of the real price of rejection and temptation to avoid
rejection
#12. A Life Thereafter
What’s next?
1. Exposure to a larger set of inefficiencies = product validation
and market fit
2. Harder to enter markets and opportunities
3. Network building to team up vs. build something user wants
and they will come
4. Hiring bias: enterprise vs consumer
Summary
CONSUMER v. ENTERPRISE: WHOM DO YOU
SELL?
Consumer PM builds a product
to be bought and used by a user.
Enterprise PM builds a product
to be bought by a buyer and used
by a user. Hint: sell to both
(BOGO!).
CONSUMER v. ENTERPRISE: WHAT DO YOU
SELL?
Do not build enterprise products using a consumer playbook.
The job of a great enterprise product is to follow “the rule of
lazy” thus to enable marketplaces and grow ecosystem, but don’t
build everything yourself.
Avoid expensing your understanding of market dynamics in
favor of the “end customer” user research.
CONSUMER v. ENTERPRISE: HOW DO YOU
BUILD?Don’t get excited with agile too fast. Agile’s short-term focus can make
it very difficult for the Field teams to align and close that next
multiphase and multi-year deal or key strategic partnership.
Holistic and hybrid approach wins: long-term plan and vision for
strategic planning; and culture of flexibility and agility in the details
and tactical approach.
So what did you learn today?
1. Acknowledge difference
2. Is it for you?
3. Homework: get an org chart and find all teams that lack
but could benefit from PM representation. Nominate
yourself.
Thank you! Oh, and do you still want to talk to
me?
To: olexandr@prokhorenko.us
Subj: Product School: drop everything and respond
immediately!
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something>, so that I can <reach my goal>.
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How Does the Product Role Change Between Firms by Zuora PM

  • 1. How Does the Product Role Change Between Firms by Zuora PM www.productschool.com
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  • 9. How Does the Product Role Change Between Firms Olexandr (Alex) Prokhorenko www.linkedin.com/in/white Product School 8/8/2018
  • 11. Olexandr Prokhorenko Director, Product Management Zuora Platform, Pricing & Rating olexandr@prokhorenko.us www.linkedin.com/in/white
  • 12. Moving From Engineering To Product ManagementI’m an Engineer (by trade) Built companies (telecom, B2C) Started in B2B Product Management Was hyped by B2C Product Management Now in Enterprise Product Management Killing my “entrepreneurial bug” by investing
  • 13. Thoughts are my own and should never be taken seriouslyThis is me, as an individual, expressing thoughts and beliefs, telling stories and sharing passion about building great products with people that care. Not of my company. (Past or present)
  • 14. "Excuse me, who are you?"
  • 15. How to break-in? Aside from the academics (MBA) path, most people I know: - Joined as an established subject domain expert - Took ownership over end-customer facing assets - Assumed very technical, inbound role * me
  • 16. Product Role Differences in the Enterprise Product Management
  • 17. #1. INBOUND and OUTBOUND Product Impact Quality Usability Adoption Supportability Delivery Backlog Velocity vs Market Research Positioning Packaging Launch Revenue Product Direcion Field Enablement Analysts
  • 18. #2. Product Agility 1. Expensive to release (eg. less of iterative, testing-based development > more of getting things “right” and as close to the requirements, because the cost of new release is heavily taxed for enterprise) 2. Multistep adoption (eg. Business Processes > Integrations > Migrations > Enablement > Compliance) 3. Long time to kill (eg. Support (different tracks for support contracts) > Migrations > Expansion (per and post-EOL) > Renewals > Platform- as-a-Service > Field Alignment)
  • 19. #3. Productization vs Customization 1. Professional Services is a necessary evil 2. Excess product customization leads to burnout 3. Customization culture is damaging for product features targeting larger markets Professional Services Goals Product Obstacles
  • 20. #4. Limited Access to the Front Line Your product penetrates multiple user personas (Sponsor, Buyer, User, Champion, Reviewer, ...) for the single account. You, as PM, are “shielded” from the customer interfacing with multiple layers of “relationship and communication facilitation” managers, and subject to a bias in user study and gathering requirements process.
  • 21. #5. Build Product but Sell Vision Efforts: How to Build > What to Build Result: Great Technology < Vision of the Future It is a lost deal :( Vision & Best Practices This is what customer buys
  • 22. #6. Monetization (is real) 1. Pricing is high 2. Sensitive indirect monetization (can’t “sell your customer” without consent!) 3. Pricing and packaging can be complex
  • 23. #7. Biased Customer Insights 1. Limited opportunities to collect customer insights 2. Data bias - millions of signals vs a handful of data points from your customers
  • 24. #8. Heavy on Stakeholder Management 1. Build relationships by exchanging information, set expectations, share culture 2. Over-communicate 3. Align with cross-functional teams agendas 4. Be present all the way through your product lifecycle
  • 25. #9. Competition 1. Harder to get hands on with the competitor’s product 2. Befriend market research firms: Gartner, Forrester, MGI 3. Magic Quadrant: the Good (common denominator), the Bad (black box, under representment), and the Evil (bias towards investors, rather than buyers)
  • 26. #10. Tolerance to Ambiguity Ambiguity is a “doubtfulness or uncertainty of meaning or intention”. You are expected to: 1. effectively cope with change 2. shift gears and correct course 3. make a decision without having the total picture 4. comfortably handle risk and uncertainty
  • 27. #11. “NO” HAS ITS PRICE 1. “Listen, listen, understand, know” before rejecting anything 2. Don’t play zero-sum game 3. Don’t fall into tailor-made product features 4. Demonstrate the value without disruption of the product roadmap 5. Be systematic and transparent in your decision making 6. Be wary of the real price of rejection and temptation to avoid rejection
  • 28. #12. A Life Thereafter What’s next? 1. Exposure to a larger set of inefficiencies = product validation and market fit 2. Harder to enter markets and opportunities 3. Network building to team up vs. build something user wants and they will come 4. Hiring bias: enterprise vs consumer
  • 30. CONSUMER v. ENTERPRISE: WHOM DO YOU SELL? Consumer PM builds a product to be bought and used by a user. Enterprise PM builds a product to be bought by a buyer and used by a user. Hint: sell to both (BOGO!).
  • 31. CONSUMER v. ENTERPRISE: WHAT DO YOU SELL? Do not build enterprise products using a consumer playbook. The job of a great enterprise product is to follow “the rule of lazy” thus to enable marketplaces and grow ecosystem, but don’t build everything yourself. Avoid expensing your understanding of market dynamics in favor of the “end customer” user research.
  • 32. CONSUMER v. ENTERPRISE: HOW DO YOU BUILD?Don’t get excited with agile too fast. Agile’s short-term focus can make it very difficult for the Field teams to align and close that next multiphase and multi-year deal or key strategic partnership. Holistic and hybrid approach wins: long-term plan and vision for strategic planning; and culture of flexibility and agility in the details and tactical approach.
  • 33. So what did you learn today? 1. Acknowledge difference 2. Is it for you? 3. Homework: get an org chart and find all teams that lack but could benefit from PM representation. Nominate yourself.
  • 34. Thank you! Oh, and do you still want to talk to me? To: olexandr@prokhorenko.us Subj: Product School: drop everything and respond immediately! I, <name> as a Product Manager, want to know how to <do something>, so that I can <reach my goal>.
  • 35. Part-time Product Management Courses in San Francisco, Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, New York, Austin, Boston, Seattle, Chicago, Denver, London, Toronto www.productschool.com

Hinweis der Redaktion

  1. understand web analytics, learn SQL, and machine learning concepts
  2. If true - otherwise I’m just abusing the stage time for self expression and false assumption of contributing to a better world
  3. Learn who’s coming from what background How many engineers How many others - what are they from - sales, bizdev, project management, etc?
  4. Story - rejecting an offer
  5. Over-focusing on “how to build” (inbound, tactical, project management) without clear alignment on “what to build” (vision, strategy). Selling vision and best practices, enterprise is sold to dozens of platforms and don’t want to give on any single one, sometimes pursuing same goal but through different means. In the B2B world, you can have great underlying tech and a superior user experience, but still lose badly to a competitor selling ‘the future.’ PM roles in consumer software/internet are more "identifying customer needs, design & analytical" focussed and seem to have more influence in "what to build".
  6. Data retention, SLAs, etc.
  7. How do you balance “acceptable” ambiguity level How do you reduce it How you can make sure this is good enough or you still need more data How you can avoid excuses not to pursue more research by acknowledging ambiguity and acceptance of it
  8. Greate enterprise products enable marketplace and not do it themselves (like multiple integrations, gateways, et cetera)
  9. 1. 2. Let me do an amazon “pay to quit” thing. Is it for you? If no - don’t start something you would not love. You are in position to choose. 3. Start Find at least 2 things in your company and drive the change