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Agenda
09:45

Arrivals

10:00

Welcome and introduction
Beverly Barr, Vice-Chair and Market
Access Lead, PM Society

10:10

How to avoid divorce in your NHS
partnerships
Di Vegh, NHS Partnership Manager, ABPI

10:25

Questions and answers

10:30

Executive sleepless nights - can drugs
help?
Felicity Greene, Director of Operations
at NHS South Commissioning Support
Unit

10:45

Questions and answers

10:50

Marketing, advertising, selling and the
customer
Jonathan Dancer, Redbow Consulting
Group

11:05

Questions and answers

11:10

Speaker and audience debate and
discussion

12:00

Summary and close
Pre-Meeting Survey
• Survey sent to PM Members
– December 2013-January 2014

• Questions covered 3 key areas:
– Promotional activities
– NHS partnership/Joint working
– CCGs/Social care

• 96 respondents
– 52 industry
– 44 service companies
Promotional strategy changes in
response to the NHS
Q) Have you changed your promotional activity over the last 12

months as a result of the changes in the NHS ? (industry)
Q) Have your clients changed their promotional activity over the last
12 months as a result of the changes in the NHS ? (agency)
Industry

Agency

Yes

87.2%

38.2%

No

6.4%

26.5%

Don’t know

6.4%

35.3%

Most industry members have changed their promotional activity over the last
12months in response to changes in the NHS-although agencies seem less certain
about what their clients have done
Promotional activity
• Almost all industry respondents (91.5%) had specific
promotional activities aimed at payers
–

83% tailored these to meet the needs of local payers

− Most agencies (67.6%) worked on promotional activities
aimed at payers
− all these (67.6%) tailored client activities to meet the needs of local payers
NHS partnerships/Joint working
• 55.6% of industry companies had a function or
person dedicated to NHS partnerships or joint
working
• More than half 53.8% of industry respondents currently
worked on a partnership/joint working project
– the most common answer was 5+ projects
– 20.4 % of agency respondents indicated they worked
on a client project (commonly 2-4 projects)
• Both industry and agencies considered NHS partnerships
and joint working to be part of the commercial strategy
– 86% industry
– 56.8 % agencies
Understanding of joint working
Agency responses

Industry responses
How well do you believe you understand the difference
between Joint working and the following?

60
50
40
30

50

2%
10%
21%
27%

20
10
0

How well do you believe you understand the difference
between Joint working and the following?

4%
8%
23%

40%

2%
8%
9%
25%
29%

29%
11%
Medical and
Educational
Goods and
Services

25%

27%

Promotion

Sponsorship

45
No clear
understanding
Vague
understanding
Reasonable
understanding
Good
understanding
Very good
understanding
Excellent
understanding

40

25%

25%

27%

23%

21%

13.5%

18%

27%

11.5%
13.5%

18%

2.5% 11%

13.5%

9%
7%

Promotion

Sponsorship

35
30
25

32%

20
15
10
5
0

No clear
understanding
Vague
understanding
Reasonable
understanding
Good
understanding
Very good
understanding
Excellent
understanding

Medical and
Educational
Goods and
Services

While industry believed they understood the difference between joint working , medical
education, promotion and sponsorship, almost half the agency respondents have a ‘learning gap’
Current strategy for social care
Q) Do you currently have or are your working on a strategy to address

the growing emphasis on social care? (industry)
Q) Does you organisation currently work on any industry sponsored
project focused solely on social care? (agency)
Industry

Agency

Yes

2.1%

2.9%

No

47.9%

73.5%

Currently in preparation

22.9%

5.9%

Don’t know

27.1%

17.6%
Knowledge of groups/organisations
commissioning products
Industry responses

Agency responses

How knowledgeable do you believe your company is
about which NHS organisation/group commissions each
of the medicines you sell?

How knowledgeable do you believe your organisation is
about which NHS organisation/group commissions each
of the medicines your industry clients sell?

2.1%

2.9%
Very Poor

22.9%
22.9%

Poor

52.1%

20.6%

Neutral
Good

Very
Good
Exception
al

Very Poor

11.8%

Poor
Neutral

23.5%

Good

41.2%

Very
Good
Exception
al

Al industry members believed that they had good knowledge about the relevant group/ NHS
organisation that commissions the products they sell but 23% agencies did not believe that they
were particularly knowledgeable about this
Understanding the needs of CCG
Industry responses
How well do you believe the company understands
the needs of CCGs?

Agency responses
How well do you believe your organisation understands
the needs of CCGs?

2.1%
8.3%

10.4%

No clear
understanding
Vague understanding
Reasonable
understanding
Good understanding

29.2%

50.0%

Very good
understanding
Excellent
understanding

5.9%

11.8%

8.8%

No clear understanding

Vague understanding

32.4%

Reasonable
understanding
Good understanding
Very good
understanding
Excellent understanding

A high proportion of both industry and agency thought that they understood the needs of CCGs
Relationship with CCGs
Industry responses

Agency responses

How would you rate your company’s current relationship
with CCGs?

How would you rate your industry clients current
relationship with CCGs?

5.7%

6.4%
10.6%

Very Poor
Poor

34.0%

Neutral

48.9%

Very Poor

22.9%

20.0%

Neutral

Good
Very
Good
Exception
al

Poor

Good

51.4%

Very
Good
Exception
al

More than half (59.5%) of industry respondents thought that their relationship with CCGs was
neutral or poor and agencies believed it may be even less favourable
The next 12 months?
Industry responses

Agency responses

Over the next 12 months how likely are you to change
your promotional activities to respond to changes in the
NHS?

Over the next 12 months how likely is it that your clients
will adapt their promotional activities to respond to
changes in the NHS?

6.1%

2.2%
Highly unlikely
Somewhat
unlikely
Unlikely

43.5%

37.0%

Likely
Somewhat likely

17.4%

Very likely

Highly unlikely

6.1%
18.2%
9.1%
12.1%

Somewhat
unlikely
Unlikely
Likely

48.5%

Somewhat likely
Very likely

The majority of industry anticipates having to change their promotional activities in the next 12
months in response to NHS changes
Number of joint projects
Industry responses

Agency responses

How many NHS partnership or Joint working projects is
your company currently involved in?

15.4%

3.8%

I don't
know
0

26.9%

1

How many NHS partnership or Joint working projects is
your company currently involved in?

6.8%

11.5%

19.2%
13.5%

3

I don't
know
0

6.8%
4.5%
38.6%

2

9.6%

2.3%

1
2

40.9%

3

4

4

5+

5+

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Industry and the NHS - survey results

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  • 2. Agenda 09:45 Arrivals 10:00 Welcome and introduction Beverly Barr, Vice-Chair and Market Access Lead, PM Society 10:10 How to avoid divorce in your NHS partnerships Di Vegh, NHS Partnership Manager, ABPI 10:25 Questions and answers 10:30 Executive sleepless nights - can drugs help? Felicity Greene, Director of Operations at NHS South Commissioning Support Unit 10:45 Questions and answers 10:50 Marketing, advertising, selling and the customer Jonathan Dancer, Redbow Consulting Group 11:05 Questions and answers 11:10 Speaker and audience debate and discussion 12:00 Summary and close
  • 3. Pre-Meeting Survey • Survey sent to PM Members – December 2013-January 2014 • Questions covered 3 key areas: – Promotional activities – NHS partnership/Joint working – CCGs/Social care • 96 respondents – 52 industry – 44 service companies
  • 4. Promotional strategy changes in response to the NHS Q) Have you changed your promotional activity over the last 12 months as a result of the changes in the NHS ? (industry) Q) Have your clients changed their promotional activity over the last 12 months as a result of the changes in the NHS ? (agency) Industry Agency Yes 87.2% 38.2% No 6.4% 26.5% Don’t know 6.4% 35.3% Most industry members have changed their promotional activity over the last 12months in response to changes in the NHS-although agencies seem less certain about what their clients have done
  • 5. Promotional activity • Almost all industry respondents (91.5%) had specific promotional activities aimed at payers – 83% tailored these to meet the needs of local payers − Most agencies (67.6%) worked on promotional activities aimed at payers − all these (67.6%) tailored client activities to meet the needs of local payers
  • 6. NHS partnerships/Joint working • 55.6% of industry companies had a function or person dedicated to NHS partnerships or joint working • More than half 53.8% of industry respondents currently worked on a partnership/joint working project – the most common answer was 5+ projects – 20.4 % of agency respondents indicated they worked on a client project (commonly 2-4 projects) • Both industry and agencies considered NHS partnerships and joint working to be part of the commercial strategy – 86% industry – 56.8 % agencies
  • 7. Understanding of joint working Agency responses Industry responses How well do you believe you understand the difference between Joint working and the following? 60 50 40 30 50 2% 10% 21% 27% 20 10 0 How well do you believe you understand the difference between Joint working and the following? 4% 8% 23% 40% 2% 8% 9% 25% 29% 29% 11% Medical and Educational Goods and Services 25% 27% Promotion Sponsorship 45 No clear understanding Vague understanding Reasonable understanding Good understanding Very good understanding Excellent understanding 40 25% 25% 27% 23% 21% 13.5% 18% 27% 11.5% 13.5% 18% 2.5% 11% 13.5% 9% 7% Promotion Sponsorship 35 30 25 32% 20 15 10 5 0 No clear understanding Vague understanding Reasonable understanding Good understanding Very good understanding Excellent understanding Medical and Educational Goods and Services While industry believed they understood the difference between joint working , medical education, promotion and sponsorship, almost half the agency respondents have a ‘learning gap’
  • 8. Current strategy for social care Q) Do you currently have or are your working on a strategy to address the growing emphasis on social care? (industry) Q) Does you organisation currently work on any industry sponsored project focused solely on social care? (agency) Industry Agency Yes 2.1% 2.9% No 47.9% 73.5% Currently in preparation 22.9% 5.9% Don’t know 27.1% 17.6%
  • 9. Knowledge of groups/organisations commissioning products Industry responses Agency responses How knowledgeable do you believe your company is about which NHS organisation/group commissions each of the medicines you sell? How knowledgeable do you believe your organisation is about which NHS organisation/group commissions each of the medicines your industry clients sell? 2.1% 2.9% Very Poor 22.9% 22.9% Poor 52.1% 20.6% Neutral Good Very Good Exception al Very Poor 11.8% Poor Neutral 23.5% Good 41.2% Very Good Exception al Al industry members believed that they had good knowledge about the relevant group/ NHS organisation that commissions the products they sell but 23% agencies did not believe that they were particularly knowledgeable about this
  • 10. Understanding the needs of CCG Industry responses How well do you believe the company understands the needs of CCGs? Agency responses How well do you believe your organisation understands the needs of CCGs? 2.1% 8.3% 10.4% No clear understanding Vague understanding Reasonable understanding Good understanding 29.2% 50.0% Very good understanding Excellent understanding 5.9% 11.8% 8.8% No clear understanding Vague understanding 32.4% Reasonable understanding Good understanding Very good understanding Excellent understanding A high proportion of both industry and agency thought that they understood the needs of CCGs
  • 11. Relationship with CCGs Industry responses Agency responses How would you rate your company’s current relationship with CCGs? How would you rate your industry clients current relationship with CCGs? 5.7% 6.4% 10.6% Very Poor Poor 34.0% Neutral 48.9% Very Poor 22.9% 20.0% Neutral Good Very Good Exception al Poor Good 51.4% Very Good Exception al More than half (59.5%) of industry respondents thought that their relationship with CCGs was neutral or poor and agencies believed it may be even less favourable
  • 12. The next 12 months? Industry responses Agency responses Over the next 12 months how likely are you to change your promotional activities to respond to changes in the NHS? Over the next 12 months how likely is it that your clients will adapt their promotional activities to respond to changes in the NHS? 6.1% 2.2% Highly unlikely Somewhat unlikely Unlikely 43.5% 37.0% Likely Somewhat likely 17.4% Very likely Highly unlikely 6.1% 18.2% 9.1% 12.1% Somewhat unlikely Unlikely Likely 48.5% Somewhat likely Very likely The majority of industry anticipates having to change their promotional activities in the next 12 months in response to NHS changes
  • 13. Number of joint projects Industry responses Agency responses How many NHS partnership or Joint working projects is your company currently involved in? 15.4% 3.8% I don't know 0 26.9% 1 How many NHS partnership or Joint working projects is your company currently involved in? 6.8% 11.5% 19.2% 13.5% 3 I don't know 0 6.8% 4.5% 38.6% 2 9.6% 2.3% 1 2 40.9% 3 4 4 5+ 5+