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Customer Development
Training
wonful
wonful consulting.
How many products are built
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1. Have awesome idea for a product and build it. 
2. What problem does 

 it solve?
3. Who has that problem?
!
!
!
Sometimes this works. 
But most times, it doesn’t.
How products should be built
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1. Customer
2. Their Problem
3. Your Solution
Solution! Lean Startup
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But what’s wrong with this?
Empathy.
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Find Your Customers
Customer Discovery Phase
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Cold call non-customers first to practice

 
 Fewer shots, so more important than B2C to be prepared.
!
Who to interview at a company?

 
 Economic Buyer vs User
!
Frame the conversation

 
 “I’m trying to learn about the problems in the industry.”
Rule #1: Pull, Don’t Push
Rule #2: No Ice Cream Questions
Rule #3: No Leading Questions
Rule #4: Past Behavior --> Future Behavior
Rule #5: Actual Self vs. Ideal Self
Rule #6: No Pitching
Rule #7: “N of 1” is Not Proof
Rule #8: No Seeding.
Rule #9: Low Cognitive Load Questions
Rule #10: Stories > Statements
Part 1: The Rules
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So how do you get
someone telling stories?
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Technique #1: “5 Why’s” 
Technique #2: “Tell me more.”
Interviewing Tactics
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Technique #1: “5 Why’s” 
Technique #2: “Tell me more.”
Technique #3: “Tell me about the last time...”
Technique #4: “What do you mean by...”
Technique #5: How are you dealing with your problem now?
Technique #6: Silence is Golden
Interviewing Tactics
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Very interesting… why is that important?
That makes sense… 
I never thought about it that way before. Can you tell me more?
That sounds important.
I’m not sure I understand…
That’s a great point.
Wow / Neat / Cool / Strange / Huh
Softening Statements
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Question #1: “What if they never talk about the
problem I’m trying to solve?”
!
Question #2: “How do I put these into a survey?”
!
Question #3: Face2Face>Skype>Phone>Email>Pigeons
F.A.Q.
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Because I’m working on a project…
One more tip…
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Split into teams of 3.
Practice time!
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Split into teams of 3.
Practice time!
wonful
B
CA
Interviewer
Takes notes Interviewee
Travel
Problem topics...
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How do we organize 
all this information?
Affinity Mapping
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Take themes from Affinity Mapping,
rewrite them as insights.
Insight Generation
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Rewrite insights as ACTIONABLE
“How might we…” statements.
How Might We…
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Choose a “How Might We” 
and solve it.
Generating Solutions
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Desirability
DVF
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ViabilityFeasibility
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wonful consulting.
Zachary Cohn
 
 
 
 
 Fisher Qua

 
 zaccohn@gmail.com

 fisher@back-loop.com
 

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  • 2. How many products are built wonful 1. Have awesome idea for a product and build it. 2. What problem does it solve? 3. Who has that problem? ! ! ! Sometimes this works. But most times, it doesn’t.
  • 3. How products should be built wonful 1. Customer 2. Their Problem 3. Your Solution
  • 4. Solution! Lean Startup wonful But what’s wrong with this?
  • 6. Find Your Customers Customer Discovery Phase wonful Cold call non-customers first to practice Fewer shots, so more important than B2C to be prepared. ! Who to interview at a company? Economic Buyer vs User ! Frame the conversation “I’m trying to learn about the problems in the industry.”
  • 7. Rule #1: Pull, Don’t Push Rule #2: No Ice Cream Questions Rule #3: No Leading Questions Rule #4: Past Behavior --> Future Behavior Rule #5: Actual Self vs. Ideal Self Rule #6: No Pitching Rule #7: “N of 1” is Not Proof Rule #8: No Seeding. Rule #9: Low Cognitive Load Questions Rule #10: Stories > Statements Part 1: The Rules wonful
  • 8. So how do you get someone telling stories? wonful
  • 9. Technique #1: “5 Why’s” Technique #2: “Tell me more.” Interviewing Tactics wonful
  • 10. Technique #1: “5 Why’s” Technique #2: “Tell me more.” Technique #3: “Tell me about the last time...” Technique #4: “What do you mean by...” Technique #5: How are you dealing with your problem now? Technique #6: Silence is Golden Interviewing Tactics wonful
  • 11. Very interesting… why is that important? That makes sense… I never thought about it that way before. Can you tell me more? That sounds important. I’m not sure I understand… That’s a great point. Wow / Neat / Cool / Strange / Huh Softening Statements wonful
  • 12. Question #1: “What if they never talk about the problem I’m trying to solve?” ! Question #2: “How do I put these into a survey?” ! Question #3: Face2Face>Skype>Phone>Email>Pigeons F.A.Q. wonful
  • 13. Because I’m working on a project… One more tip… wonful
  • 14. Split into teams of 3. Practice time! wonful
  • 15. Split into teams of 3. Practice time! wonful B CA Interviewer Takes notes Interviewee
  • 17. How do we organize all this information? Affinity Mapping wonful
  • 18. Take themes from Affinity Mapping, rewrite them as insights. Insight Generation wonful
  • 19. Rewrite insights as ACTIONABLE “How might we…” statements. How Might We… wonful
  • 20. Choose a “How Might We” and solve it. Generating Solutions wonful
  • 22. wonful wonful consulting. Zachary Cohn Fisher Qua zaccohn@gmail.com fisher@back-loop.com 
 ! Want to learn more? www.wonful.co
 Join “Innovation At Work” www.wonful.co/newsletter