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social media in b2b - lessons learnt
   from the Orange Business Services experience

   Yann Gourvennec
   Director, Web, Digital & Social Media
   http://orange.com




   HP marketing meeting
   Paris, June 30th, 2011




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perspective




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agenda


                                               1. takeaways from Orange b2b

                                               2. is it applicable to HP in Europe?

                                               3. implementation tips

                                               4. regional differences

                                               5. sales vs. blogs



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1. takeaways from the Orange Business Services
   experience




   HP marketing meeting
   Paris, June 30th, 2011




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introduction: customer advocacy

a brand is “what your customer says when you are not in the room”
      (Jeff Bezos?)




  “
  Vincent, you are a star now, your blog piece has been circulated
  throughout the Bank!

        (from a client to one of our bloggers)




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what they said




“
                                            http://bit.ly/yagexeter


What Orange Business
Services has done is a
worldwide best practice
Chris Brogan, no. 1 Marketing
blogger WW



I am deeply impressed with
what Orange Business
Services has accomplished
John Bell, VP, 360 PR, Ogilvy



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‘new’ trends




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barely 5 years ago …




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a misplaced fear?




http://www.amusement.fr/index.php?/magazine/now--amusement-6/

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a thing to fear or build upon?




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all markets are conversations …
… not always true


4 types of brands (Synthesio)



                             under the radar               functional             preferred       sensitive

                                                       either it works or fix                     heath, safety,
 characteristics                little or no buzz
                                                                  it!
                                                                                 conversations
                                                                                                    children



                                                           community
                                do something              management               nurture
 tactics                          different              (forums/social         community (ies)
                                                                                                   reassure
                                                             media)
Hervé Kabla & Yann Gourvennec : Social Media Taught to my boss, 2011
so, why use social media in b2b?




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1. because of solution selling




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2. because of ICT buyers …                                                     source:




                                               vertical painpoints
                                               IT security                virtualization

                                                              use social media

                                        are passionate about technology

                                 annoyed by banners/                              read blogs
                                 marketing by interruption
                                         turn to trusted technology
                                         B2B resources
                                         are part of ECOSYSTEMS
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3. because we get feedback … and more




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lead generation (on-going campaigns)




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4. because we have good people ... and partners




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5. because of numbers and influence



                           January-April 2010 - orange-business.tv
                       •approx. 280 video clips
                             •60% in French
                             •40% in English
                    Orange Web TV
                       •145,150 video displayed vs. 471,986 (‟09)
                       •45,960 videos played vs. 66,295 („09)
                    is now a product
                       •2238:42:26 viewing hours vs 3115:55:49 (‟09)




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6. because of S.E.O.




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the ICT ecosystem

                    OPINION                       ENTERPRISE
                    LEADERS                           Y

                                                                             NEWS




                                                 OTHER BUSINESS
             ENTERPRISE
                                                      UNITS
                 X

                                   OTHER
                                                                  ADMIN
                                  REGIONS
   OTHER                                                                                     WEB
  SECTORS
                          CONTRACTORS
                                                                      CONSULTANTS

                                                                                              RSS
                                            FINANCIAL CONTROLER                              FEEDS

    CONSULTANT
                                   BUYER     CLIENT TEAM          LEGAL

                                               BUSINESS UNIT

PARTNER
                                             ENTERPRISE                             VENDOR


                           CONSULTANCY



                                                        VENDOR



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                               TYPICAL B2B ECOSYSTEM
2. applicable to hp?




   HP marketing meeting
   Paris, June 30th, 2011




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http://blog.gthankyou.com/2010/08/02/best-ice-cream-sundaes/




“Breyers Ice Cream and chef
Gale Gand have created a
Spaghetti & Meatballs Sundae
with “meatballs”, sauce made of
mashed strawberries and vanilla
ice cream extruded through a
potato ricer to become noodles.
(recipe link click here)


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3. implementation tips




   HP marketing meeting
   Paris, June 30th, 2011




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[En] Nine Top Tips For Implementing Social Media
  http://bit.ly/9toptips4social




                                                       5. respect your community and
1. communities are                                        no hard-selling
   important, but not every                            6. great causes can work
   brand has one                                          wonders
2. don’t confuse                                       7. think user-benefit vs.
   comments with collaboration                            company-benefit
3. avoid the meatball                                  8. openness, transparency and
   sundae effect                                          disclosure
4. facilitate, facilitate, facilitate                  9. execution is everything

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good practices and recommendations

> dos ….
      -   long view, short term execution
      -   up to date & fresh content
      -   team rostering
      -   invite partners
      -   blog scheduling
      -   10-15 posts p.m.
      -   varying types of posts
             - news, exhibitions, video, rad
                io clips, links, short
                blogs, market vision etc.
      -   constrained lists (10/7/5/3)
      -   popular subjects
      -   focus on your niche, talk to your
          audience (build your community)
      -   schematics work wonder
      -   field experience


                                                                Pa
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good practices and recommendations

> don‟ts
     -   “infiltrating” social networks
     -   writing too many visionary articles
         and crash
     -   selling your wares
     -   bland, high level BS
     -   10-page articles ( installments)
     -   b2c subjects (at all cost)
     -   online squabbling or attacks
     -   all rush judgements
     -   defamatary statements and libel,
         mostly vis a vis partners
     -   non personal images or that of
         monuments (Big Ben etc.)
     -   fretting because you don‟t have
         enough comments




                                                                Pa
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no go areas


>   fblogs
>   fake comments
>   fake content
>   fake employees
>   spam and intrusion
>   infiltration
>   paying bloggers
>   …

           disclosure
 http://socialmedia.org/disclos
               ure

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4. regional differences




   HP marketing meeting
   Paris, June 30th, 2011




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social networks in a nutshell (11/10)                                                         8+m -> 10m in
                                                                                                just 7 months
                                                                    25m -> 30m in
                                                                    just 7 months
                                     65m -> 80m in
                                     just 7 months
  facebook
 400m -> 500m
in just 4 months
                                    linkedIn                        viadeo                           Xing

          600 million members              80 million members           30 million members
                                                                                                     +8 million members (08/09)
              20 million Fr                    1 million Fr              3.7 million Fr (n°1)




                                                                                                          Germany: 2003
              USA: 2004                        USA: 2002                   France: 2002
                                                                                                          (née Open BC)




                                             predominantly                 predominantly
             50 languages                                                                         16 languages inc. Ger + Au + Ch
                                                English                        French




      consumers + High Tech + … ?             Professionals                Professionals                   Professionals




         1. Coca Cola: 4 million
                                                                          external growth       mostly German-speaking + Spanish +
         2. Starbucks: 5 million        average user 41 years old                                         Chinese folks
                                                                      100,000 connections/day
        3. Walt Disney: 2 million




  source: brands & Orange Business Services & Wikipedia

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regional differences are key (2006 …)
                                                                                               europe *




      NAM *
  1/4 of subscribers


                                                                                                 asia-pac *
                                                                                           so   1/3 of subscribers
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Le Monde, Datamonitor – 2008 http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/ill/2008/01/14/h_4_RESEAUX+X1I1.gif
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* numbers meaning millions of hours spent by month as of Aug 2007                         rym
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regional differences are key (… 2009 …)




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     http://www.nicolaskerebel.com/non-classe/world_map_of_social_networks/    0-
     Vincenzo Costenza                                                        visi
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regional differences shrinking now! (… 2011)




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5. sales vs. blogs




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   Paris, June 30th, 2011




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this isn’t a blog




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http://precommerce.com


                         about Orange:

                         “our top priority is for
                         everyone to do business
                         with social media”

                         “[you] will never be
                         bloggers, [you] will be
                         professionals using blogs”


                         pre-commerce, p 251
so, can’t blogs help sales?




    photo credits, Chris Brogan

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[En] lessons learnt from the orange business services experience

  • 1. social media in b2b - lessons learnt from the Orange Business Services experience Yann Gourvennec Director, Web, Digital & Social Media http://orange.com HP marketing meeting Paris, June 30th, 2011 some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 1
  • 2. perspective some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange
  • 3. agenda 1. takeaways from Orange b2b 2. is it applicable to HP in Europe? 3. implementation tips 4. regional differences 5. sales vs. blogs copyright © 2011 – Orange – web, digital & social media 4
  • 4. 1. takeaways from the Orange Business Services experience HP marketing meeting Paris, June 30th, 2011 some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 5
  • 5. introduction: customer advocacy a brand is “what your customer says when you are not in the room” (Jeff Bezos?) “ Vincent, you are a star now, your blog piece has been circulated throughout the Bank! (from a client to one of our bloggers) Copyright © 2010 - Yann Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 6
  • 6. what they said “ http://bit.ly/yagexeter What Orange Business Services has done is a worldwide best practice Chris Brogan, no. 1 Marketing blogger WW I am deeply impressed with what Orange Business Services has accomplished John Bell, VP, 360 PR, Ogilvy Pag Copyright © 2010 - Yann Gourvennec - Orange Business Services e7
  • 7. ‘new’ trends some rights reserved - CC 2011 - visionarymarketing.com - Yann A. Gourvennec 8
  • 8. barely 5 years ago … some rights reserved by Jimee, Jackie, Tom & Ash some rights reserved - CC 2011 - visionarymarketing.com - Yann A. Gourvennec 9
  • 10. a thing to fear or build upon? some rights reserved by ella novak some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 11
  • 11. all markets are conversations …
  • 12. … not always true 4 types of brands (Synthesio) under the radar functional preferred sensitive either it works or fix heath, safety, characteristics little or no buzz it! conversations children community do something management nurture tactics different (forums/social community (ies) reassure media) Hervé Kabla & Yann Gourvennec : Social Media Taught to my boss, 2011
  • 13. so, why use social media in b2b? some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 14
  • 14. 1. because of solution selling some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 15
  • 15. 2. because of ICT buyers … source: vertical painpoints IT security virtualization use social media are passionate about technology annoyed by banners/ read blogs marketing by interruption turn to trusted technology B2B resources are part of ECOSYSTEMS some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 16
  • 16. 3. because we get feedback … and more some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 17
  • 17. lead generation (on-going campaigns) some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 18
  • 18. 4. because we have good people ... and partners some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 19
  • 19. 5. because of numbers and influence January-April 2010 - orange-business.tv •approx. 280 video clips •60% in French •40% in English Orange Web TV •145,150 video displayed vs. 471,986 (‟09) •45,960 videos played vs. 66,295 („09) is now a product •2238:42:26 viewing hours vs 3115:55:49 (‟09) some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 20
  • 20. 6. because of S.E.O. some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 21
  • 21. the ICT ecosystem OPINION ENTERPRISE LEADERS Y NEWS OTHER BUSINESS ENTERPRISE UNITS X OTHER ADMIN REGIONS OTHER WEB SECTORS CONTRACTORS CONSULTANTS RSS FINANCIAL CONTROLER FEEDS CONSULTANT BUYER CLIENT TEAM LEGAL BUSINESS UNIT PARTNER ENTERPRISE VENDOR CONSULTANCY VENDOR some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 22 TYPICAL B2B ECOSYSTEM
  • 22. 2. applicable to hp? HP marketing meeting Paris, June 30th, 2011 some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange
  • 23. some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 24
  • 24. some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec – Orange – 2011 25
  • 25. http://blog.gthankyou.com/2010/08/02/best-ice-cream-sundaes/ “Breyers Ice Cream and chef Gale Gand have created a Spaghetti & Meatballs Sundae with “meatballs”, sauce made of mashed strawberries and vanilla ice cream extruded through a potato ricer to become noodles. (recipe link click here) some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 26
  • 26. 3. implementation tips HP marketing meeting Paris, June 30th, 2011 some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange
  • 27. [En] Nine Top Tips For Implementing Social Media http://bit.ly/9toptips4social 5. respect your community and 1. communities are no hard-selling important, but not every 6. great causes can work brand has one wonders 2. don’t confuse 7. think user-benefit vs. comments with collaboration company-benefit 3. avoid the meatball 8. openness, transparency and sundae effect disclosure 4. facilitate, facilitate, facilitate 9. execution is everything Copyright © 2010 - Yann Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 28
  • 28. good practices and recommendations > dos …. - long view, short term execution - up to date & fresh content - team rostering - invite partners - blog scheduling - 10-15 posts p.m. - varying types of posts - news, exhibitions, video, rad io clips, links, short blogs, market vision etc. - constrained lists (10/7/5/3) - popular subjects - focus on your niche, talk to your audience (build your community) - schematics work wonder - field experience Pa Copyright © 2010 - Yann Gourvennec - Orange Business Services ge 29
  • 29. good practices and recommendations > don‟ts - “infiltrating” social networks - writing too many visionary articles and crash - selling your wares - bland, high level BS - 10-page articles ( installments) - b2c subjects (at all cost) - online squabbling or attacks - all rush judgements - defamatary statements and libel, mostly vis a vis partners - non personal images or that of monuments (Big Ben etc.) - fretting because you don‟t have enough comments Pa Copyright © 2010 - Yann Gourvennec - Orange Business Services ge 30
  • 30. no go areas > fblogs > fake comments > fake content > fake employees > spam and intrusion > infiltration > paying bloggers > … disclosure http://socialmedia.org/disclos ure some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 31
  • 31. 4. regional differences HP marketing meeting Paris, June 30th, 2011 some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange
  • 32. social networks in a nutshell (11/10) 8+m -> 10m in just 7 months 25m -> 30m in just 7 months 65m -> 80m in just 7 months facebook 400m -> 500m in just 4 months linkedIn viadeo Xing 600 million members 80 million members 30 million members +8 million members (08/09) 20 million Fr 1 million Fr 3.7 million Fr (n°1) Germany: 2003 USA: 2004 USA: 2002 France: 2002 (née Open BC) predominantly predominantly 50 languages 16 languages inc. Ger + Au + Ch English French consumers + High Tech + … ? Professionals Professionals Professionals 1. Coca Cola: 4 million external growth mostly German-speaking + Spanish + 2. Starbucks: 5 million average user 41 years old Chinese folks 100,000 connections/day 3. Walt Disney: 2 million source: brands & Orange Business Services & Wikipedia some rights reserved - 2010 - cc - Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 33
  • 33. regional differences are key (2006 …) europe * NAM * 1/4 of subscribers asia-pac * so 1/3 of subscribers me righ ts res erv ed - cc 201 sources:http://valleywag.com/tech/data-junkie/the-world-map-of-social-networks-273201.php 0- visi Le Monde, Datamonitor – 2008 http://medias.lemonde.fr/mmpub/edt/ill/2008/01/14/h_4_RESEAUX+X1I1.gif ona * numbers meaning millions of hours spent by month as of Aug 2007 rym june 2010 34 34 ark
  • 34. regional differences are key (… 2009 …) so me righ ts res erv ed - cc 201 http://www.nicolaskerebel.com/non-classe/world_map_of_social_networks/ 0- Vincenzo Costenza visi ona june 2010 rym 35 35 ark
  • 35. regional differences shrinking now! (… 2011) so me righ ts res erv ed - cc 201 0- visi ona june 2010 rym 36 36 ark
  • 36. 5. sales vs. blogs HP marketing meeting Paris, June 30th, 2011 some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange
  • 37. this isn’t a blog some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange Business Services 38
  • 38. http://precommerce.com about Orange: “our top priority is for everyone to do business with social media” “[you] will never be bloggers, [you] will be professionals using blogs” pre-commerce, p 251
  • 39. so, can’t blogs help sales? photo credits, Chris Brogan some rights reserved - cc- Yann A Gourvennec - Orange 40
  • 40. thank you 41
  • 41. follow us on @orange http://facebook.com/orange @orangebusiness http://facebook.com/orangebusiness http://youtube.com/orangebusiness http://slideshare.net/orangebusiness http://www.posterous.com/orangebusiness

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  1. “Breyers Ice Cream and chef Gale Gand have created a Spaghetti & Meatballs Sundae with rocky road “meatballs”, sauce made of mashed strawberries and vanille ice cream extruded through a potato ricer to become noodles.”
  2. Communities are important, but not every brand has one. Communities are built around a common interest and the need for people to help each other. Just because some people are merely buying products doesn’t mean that they are part of a community. Companies need to foster community feelings before thinking of orchestrating a community. For detailed tips on how to foster communities refer to Hagel and Armstrong’s “Net Gain“.Don’t confuse comments with collaboration. Collaboration is about working together and from the bottom up. This includes encouraging people from the shopfloor to come forward and letting clients talk to one another. Not all companies are prepared for this, and it may take a while before they are.Avoid the meatball sundae effect: Before launching a social media initiative, make sure your brand can be aligned with the social media spirit of transparency, openness and willingness to engage with visitors. If your brand is incompatible with this and refuses debate, suggestions and criticism, perhaps social media is not for you.Facilitate, facilitate, facilitate: To create an effective collaborative website, it needs to be kept up-to-date and refreshed continuously, especially at the beginning of the initiative. You need to respond to suggestions or comments as soon as they have been added. The social media etiquette approves of prompt replies because it shows the interest that your organisation has in its audience.Respect your community and no hard-selling: Social media users come to your websites to gather information, to exchange, share and receive too, but they will not stick around to look at your product descriptions, unless they are particularly interesting or tempted to provide feedback on them. If you want to sell your wares on social media, use permission marketing and disclosure.Great causes can work wonders: It helps to think big and adopt a stance on the big questions. If all you do with social media is talk about yourselves and your company, you will attract a limited amount of traffic. A great example isKaiser Permanente’s story on its fight in favour of healthier eating habits.Think user-benefit vs. company-benefit: Put others first and your business interests and objectives second. Your tone of voice has to be very straightforward and very honest and you have to avoid patronizing your visitors.Openness, transparency and disclosure: Collaboration implies transparency. Avoid creating fake blogs, fake posts and fake reviews at all cost. Infiltrating social media with your hard sell message is frowned upon and will be detected quickly by the people you are trying to reach. Check the SMBC disclosure page for details.Execution is everything. An effective social media initiative requires a strong company commitment involving many different people in the organisation. The more commitment you get from the people you work with, the more it shows through to your audience.