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Tiering, Prioritising, and Segmenting Your Customers
Director of Customer Success
Workfront
RUSSDRURY
General Manager
Gainsight EMEA
DANSTEINMAN
24.08.2017
Tiering, Prioritising, and
Segmenting Your Customers
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1 Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
2 Which Variables Should I Consider?
3 How Many Customers Per CSM?
4 Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
5 Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
6 Audience Questions
Agenda
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
• Yes, because
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
• Yes, because
• All customers are not created equal
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
• Yes, because
• All customers are not created equal
• You will naturally do it even if not consciously
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
• Yes, because
• All customers are not created equal
• You will naturally do it even if not consciously
• Different kinds of customers require different CSM skills
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
• Yes, because
• All customers are not created equal
• You will naturally do it even if not consciously
• Different kinds of customers require different CSM skills
• It will become a financial necessity
Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
STRATEGYSEGMENT
High
Touch
Mid Touch
Tech Touch
ENTERPRISE
MID-MARKET
SMB
PROACTIVE
JUST-IN-TIME
AUTOMATED
Which Variables Should I Consider?
Which Variables Should I Consider?
• Industry
Which Variables Should I Consider?
• Industry
• Brand Value
Which Variables Should I Consider?
• Industry
• Brand Value
• Country/Territory
Which Variables Should I Consider?
• Industry
• Brand Value
• Country/Territory
• Technology/Product
Which Variables Should I Consider?
• Industry
• Brand Value
• Country/Territory
• Technology/Product
• Strategy/Market/Opportunity
Which Variables Should I Consider?
• Industry
• Brand Value
• Country/Territory
• Technology/Product
• Strategy/Market/Opportunity
• Account Value
How Many Customers Per CSM?
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
• On breadth of responsibility
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
• On breadth of responsibility
• On touch model
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
• On breadth of responsibility
• On touch model
• On the value of the customer
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
• On breadth of responsibility
• On touch model
• On the value of the customer
• On Customer Success maturity
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
• On breadth of responsibility
• On touch model
• On the value of the customer
• On Customer Success maturity
• On effective use of technology
How Many Customers Per CSM?
• It depends
• On breadth of responsibility
• On touch model
• On the value of the customer
• On Customer Success maturity
• On effective use of technology
• On your financial model (monthly vs. annual or multi year)
How Many Customers Per CSM?
This is actually the wrong question, or at least
not the whole question….
How Many Customers Per CSM?
This is actually the wrong question, or at least
not the whole question….
You’ll be better off thinking about it
monetarily - how many $$ or ££ of
Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR)
should a CSM be managing?
How Many Customers Per CSM?
And the answer is….
How Many Customers Per CSM?
And the answer is….
~10x the CSM’s fully-burdened cost
How Many Customers Per CSM?
And the answer is….
~10x the CSM’s fully-burdened cost
This ratio will result in a financially
viable model (assuming you aren’t
charging for CSMs)
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• Generally, no
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• Generally, no
• It’s hard to charge for something the customer knows is just as
valuable to you as it is to them
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• Generally, no
• It’s hard to charge for something the customer knows is just as
valuable to you as it is to them
• It’s much more difficult to maintain “trusted advisor” status if
you are charging for your services
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• Generally, no
• It’s hard to charge for something the customer knows is just as
valuable to you as it is to them
• It’s much more difficult to maintain “trusted advisor” status if
you are charging for your services
• Differentiating what you charge for, and who you charge vs.
who you don’t charge
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• However
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• However
• Mature processes and technology could allow you to
differentiate and charge for CSM to your top tier
Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
• However
• Mature processes and technology could allow you to
differentiate and charge for CSM to your top tier
• An extraordinary level of domain expertise could allow you to
charge for CSM
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Absolutely
• Do it once and leave it forever
• Businesses don’t change, why should your segmentation?
• Guaranteed to be perfect if you only have ONE customer
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Absolutely
• Do it once and leave it forever
• Businesses don’t change, why should your segmentation?
• Guaranteed to be perfect if you only have ONE customer
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Of course not
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Of course not
• Your business will change
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Of course not
• Your business will change
• Your customers will change
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Of course not
• Your business will change
• Your customers will change
• Your segmentation model might change
Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
• Of course not
The question is will you be ready
and will you act quickly when the
time comes?
Q&AQ&AQ&A
Thank YouThank YouThank You

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Tiering, Prioritising, and Segmenting Your Customers

  • 2. Director of Customer Success Workfront RUSSDRURY General Manager Gainsight EMEA DANSTEINMAN 24.08.2017 Tiering, Prioritising, and Segmenting Your Customers
  • 3. Today’s Webinar Slides will be available within 24 hours Please use the Chat window for Q&A
  • 4.
  • 5. 1 Do I Need To Segment My Customers? 2 Which Variables Should I Consider? 3 How Many Customers Per CSM? 4 Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? 5 Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? 6 Audience Questions Agenda
  • 6. Do I Need To Segment My Customers?
  • 7. Do I Need To Segment My Customers? • Yes, because
  • 8. Do I Need To Segment My Customers? • Yes, because • All customers are not created equal
  • 9. Do I Need To Segment My Customers? • Yes, because • All customers are not created equal • You will naturally do it even if not consciously
  • 10. Do I Need To Segment My Customers? • Yes, because • All customers are not created equal • You will naturally do it even if not consciously • Different kinds of customers require different CSM skills
  • 11. Do I Need To Segment My Customers? • Yes, because • All customers are not created equal • You will naturally do it even if not consciously • Different kinds of customers require different CSM skills • It will become a financial necessity
  • 12. Do I Need To Segment My Customers? STRATEGYSEGMENT High Touch Mid Touch Tech Touch ENTERPRISE MID-MARKET SMB PROACTIVE JUST-IN-TIME AUTOMATED
  • 13. Which Variables Should I Consider?
  • 14. Which Variables Should I Consider? • Industry
  • 15. Which Variables Should I Consider? • Industry • Brand Value
  • 16. Which Variables Should I Consider? • Industry • Brand Value • Country/Territory
  • 17. Which Variables Should I Consider? • Industry • Brand Value • Country/Territory • Technology/Product
  • 18. Which Variables Should I Consider? • Industry • Brand Value • Country/Territory • Technology/Product • Strategy/Market/Opportunity
  • 19. Which Variables Should I Consider? • Industry • Brand Value • Country/Territory • Technology/Product • Strategy/Market/Opportunity • Account Value
  • 20. How Many Customers Per CSM?
  • 21. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends
  • 22. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends • On breadth of responsibility
  • 23. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends • On breadth of responsibility • On touch model
  • 24. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends • On breadth of responsibility • On touch model • On the value of the customer
  • 25. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends • On breadth of responsibility • On touch model • On the value of the customer • On Customer Success maturity
  • 26. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends • On breadth of responsibility • On touch model • On the value of the customer • On Customer Success maturity • On effective use of technology
  • 27. How Many Customers Per CSM? • It depends • On breadth of responsibility • On touch model • On the value of the customer • On Customer Success maturity • On effective use of technology • On your financial model (monthly vs. annual or multi year)
  • 28. How Many Customers Per CSM? This is actually the wrong question, or at least not the whole question….
  • 29. How Many Customers Per CSM? This is actually the wrong question, or at least not the whole question…. You’ll be better off thinking about it monetarily - how many $$ or ££ of Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) should a CSM be managing?
  • 30. How Many Customers Per CSM? And the answer is….
  • 31. How Many Customers Per CSM? And the answer is…. ~10x the CSM’s fully-burdened cost
  • 32. How Many Customers Per CSM? And the answer is…. ~10x the CSM’s fully-burdened cost This ratio will result in a financially viable model (assuming you aren’t charging for CSMs)
  • 33. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success?
  • 34. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • Generally, no
  • 35. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • Generally, no • It’s hard to charge for something the customer knows is just as valuable to you as it is to them
  • 36. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • Generally, no • It’s hard to charge for something the customer knows is just as valuable to you as it is to them • It’s much more difficult to maintain “trusted advisor” status if you are charging for your services
  • 37. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • Generally, no • It’s hard to charge for something the customer knows is just as valuable to you as it is to them • It’s much more difficult to maintain “trusted advisor” status if you are charging for your services • Differentiating what you charge for, and who you charge vs. who you don’t charge
  • 38. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • However
  • 39. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • However • Mature processes and technology could allow you to differentiate and charge for CSM to your top tier
  • 40. Can/Should I Charge for Customer Success? • However • Mature processes and technology could allow you to differentiate and charge for CSM to your top tier • An extraordinary level of domain expertise could allow you to charge for CSM
  • 41. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Absolutely • Do it once and leave it forever • Businesses don’t change, why should your segmentation? • Guaranteed to be perfect if you only have ONE customer
  • 42. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Absolutely • Do it once and leave it forever • Businesses don’t change, why should your segmentation? • Guaranteed to be perfect if you only have ONE customer
  • 43. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing?
  • 44. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Of course not
  • 45. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Of course not • Your business will change
  • 46. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Of course not • Your business will change • Your customers will change
  • 47. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Of course not • Your business will change • Your customers will change • Your segmentation model might change
  • 48. Is Segmentation A One-Time Thing? • Of course not The question is will you be ready and will you act quickly when the time comes?
  • 49.