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Doctor, Can I Work Despite My
. Heart Attack, Back Pain, Psychosis ???????? What Does Science Say ?? “ To all of the men and women around the world who remain productive despite significant emotional and physical pain.” Presley Reed.
Questions ? James B. Talmage MD,  Occupational  Health Center, 315 N. Washington Ave, Suite 165 Cookeville, TN 38501 Phone 931-526-1604 (Fax 526-7378)  [email_address]   [email_address]
The speaker  is the  current President  of “ The premiere society for the  prevention and management of disability”   For more information, contact AADEP @  1-800-456-6095  or visit our website @  www.aadep.org A Component of  the SOCIETY FOR DISABILITY PREVENTION AND MANAGEMENT
James B. Talmage MD ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
James B. Talmage MD Financial “Conflict of Interest” Disclosure ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
James B. Talmage MD Financial “Conflict of Interest” Disclosure ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
AMA  Publications ,[object Object],[object Object]
AMA Publications
2011 ,[object Object],[object Object]
www.mdguidelines.com   PAID CHAIR Musculoskeletal Advisory Committee  3 rd , 4 th , & 5 th  Editions. Paid CHAIR of the Medical Advisory Board 6 th  Edition.
Paid Consultant ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
ACOEM’s  Practice Guidelines, 2 nd  Edition NO ROLE
UNPAID  CHAIR: Spine Committee ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],2007
Other Professional Activity ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“ Work” ,[object Object],[object Object]
SSA 2008 Report to Congress
SSA 2008 Report to Congress
1978 to 2006 US  Population change 222.5 million to 300 million = 35% increase Disability change 2,879,000 to 6,806,000 = 136% increase
SSA 2008 Report to Congress
SSA 2008 Report to Congress
KEY POINT ,[object Object],[object Object]
OLBP: Treatment ,[object Object],[object Object]
North Carolina Back Pain Study ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
6 Different “Recovery Curves” For 6 Different  Types of Practioners Treating Low Back Pain
Am J Public Health 1994; 84: 190-196 Washington State  Workers’ Comp experience with 28,473 claims “ Recovery Curve  Has NOT changed since the 1950s  when it was first  published.
Recurrence: N.C. Study Medical Care 1999; 37 (2): 157-64 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Surgery Rate , Same cohort Spine  2000; 25 (1): 115-120 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Change from Acute to Chronic LBP Spine  2000; 25 (1): 115-120 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Effect of Medical Treatment on Low Back Disability Spine   2000; 25 (23): 3055-64 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Effect of  Medical Treatment  on Low Back Disability   Spine  2000; 25 (23): 3055-64 ,[object Object]
Effect of  Medical Treatment  on Low Back Disability   Spine   2000; 25 (23): 3055-64 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
1926 Article 19 2 6 is NOT a typo
JBJS  1926 ; 8: 137-170 ,[object Object],[object Object]
Joe Jim Talmage MD
“What is Joe’s
” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Requesting Source Assumes that Physicians Can Answer those Questions Scientifically ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
BOTH Patients and employers  want  “ Notes  from the Doctor”
The “dreaded” form: What can Joe do ?? 9 %  of all primary  care visits require an opinion from the MD on work ability. - J Rainville, et al;  The Physician as disability advisor for patients with  musculoskeletal complaints.  Spine 2005; 30 (22): 2579-2584
How many hours/day can he lift, sit, stand,  walk, climb, kneel,  bend, twist, pull, push, simple grasp,  fine manipulation,  reach above shoulder,  drive a vehicle,  operate machinery,  temperature extremes, high humidity, fumes, noise,  OTHER
http:// www.myexcusedabsence.com / Accessed November 01, 2007
www.myexcusedabsence.com www.junkbrosnews.com/Docnote.htm
Return to work formula My Fantasy: “To sit at the feet of Dr. Einstein and  learn the formula for filling out Return to Work forms”
Joe Requesting Source Treating  or IME  DOC
3 Major Considerations: Terms to Understand   ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Work Improves Life Expectancy
Canadian Medical Association Policy Summary ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
2000 Ontario, Canada Workplace Safety and Insurance Board (WSIB) ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
AAOS Position Statement September 2000 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
AMA Policy and Directives 2004 Adopted June 2004 ,[object Object],[object Object]
August 2004 UK Department of Work and Pensions ,[object Object],[object Object]
Reference for preceding slide’s quote   ,[object Object],[object Object]
2005 UK: Next Two slides ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
UK 2005: “Worklessness” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
UK 2005: “Worklessness” ,[object Object],Key Point
2008 Revision
Waddell and Burton ,[object Object],[object Object]
False Perceptions Are Common
Work Improves Life Expectancy
Unemployment and Mortality ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“Is Unemployment Pathogenic?” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
P.T. Martikainen: Unemployment and Mortality among  Finnish  men, 1981-1985 BMJ  1990; 301 (sep): 407-411 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
P.T. Martikainen: Unemployment and Mortality among  Finnish  men, 1981-1985 BMJ  1990; 301 (sep): 407-411 ,[object Object],[object Object]
BMJ  1994;308:1135-1139 (30 April) ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
BMJ  1994;308:1135-1139 (30 April) ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“Is Unemployment Pathogenic?” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Martikainen & Valkonen: Excess mortality of unemployed men and women during a period or rapidly increasing unemployment.  Lancet  1996; 348: 909-912 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Unemployment and Specific Diseases ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Unemployment and Specific Diseases ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Unemployment and Specific Diseases ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Unemployment and Suicide ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Unemployment and Premature Mortality ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“Is Unemployment Pathogenic?” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“Is Unemployment Pathogenic?” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“Is Unemployment Pathogenic?” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Unemployment and Vascular Disease ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
J Epidemiol Community Health 2004;58:501–506. ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Age at Retirement and Mortality ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
BMC Public Health  2006; 6: 103  doi:10.1186/1471-2458-6-103 ,[object Object],This article is available from: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/6/103
BMC Public Health 2006, 6:103  doi:10.1186/1471-2458-6-103 ,[object Object],[object Object],This article is available from: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/6/103
BMC Public Health 2006, 6:103  doi:10.1186/1471-2458-6-103 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],This article is available from: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/6/103
Bamia, et al. Age at Retirement and Mortality in a General Population Sample.  Am J Epidem  2008; 167 (5): 561-569 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Bamia, et al. Age at Retirement and Mortality in a General Population Sample.  Am J Epidem  2008; 167 (5): 561-569 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
2009 Rand Study ,[object Object],[object Object]
2009 Rand Study ,[object Object]
 
 
Realizing the Health Benefit of Work: A Position Statement ,[object Object],2010
Realizing the Health Benefit of Work: A Position Statement ,[object Object],http://www.racp.edu.au/page/ policy-and-advocacy/ occupational-and- environmental-medicine
[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Realizing the Health Benefit of Work: A Position Statement ,[object Object]
AFOEM 2010 ,[object Object],[object Object]
AFOEM 2010 ,[object Object]
AFOEM 2010 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
AFOEM 2010 ,[object Object],[object Object]
Roelfs et al. Losing life and livelihood:  A systematic review and meta-analysis of unemployment and all-cause mortality.  Social Science & Medicine 2011:72; 840-854 ,[object Object],[object Object]
Roelfs et al.  Social Science & Medicine 2011:72; 840-854 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Roelfs et al.  Social Science & Medicine 2011:72; 840-854 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Social Science & Medicine 2011:72; 840-854
Social Science & Medicine 2011:72; 840-854
Social Science & Medicine 2011:72; 840-854
Mortality in Perspective ,[object Object],Person Smoking Unemployment Men < 40 1.95 Men 40-50 1.86 Smoke > 10 cig/day 1.8 Women < 40 1.73 Women 40-50 1.34 Smoke < 10 cig/day 1.3
Semi-Retirement, or  “Bridge” Employment ,[object Object],[object Object]
Some Jobs Are NOT Fun
Aphorisms ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Partnership for Workplace Mental Health,  a Program of  the  American Psychiatric Foundation ,[object Object],[object Object],http:// www.workplacementalhealth.org/employer_resources / disabilityresources.aspx
http://www.workplacementalhealth.org/employer_resources/disabilityresources.aspx
Aphorisms ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Happiness: It’s  NOT  the money  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Work is central to happiness ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Work as “Life’s Purpose” ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Even if the patient  doesn’t want to return to work, it is usually in his/her best interest to do so.
Pharmaceutical Rep with  New Antibiotic   “Cephawhatsit”   ,[object Object],[object Object],This drug is detrimental to a person’s  mental, physical, and social well being.   Would you prescribe this antibiotic?
3 Major Considerations: Terms to Understand   ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Words on Forms ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Words on Forms ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Risk
Hill’s Criteria for Causation Proc R Soc Med  1965; 58: 295-300   ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Hill’s Criteria for Causation Proc R Soc Med  1965; 58: 295-300   ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Unfortunately, many  physicians jump to conclusions about causation, and therefore Work Risk, by thinking ONLY  about 2 of the 9, and the two  that do NOT require a  Knowledge of the medical literature.
Temporal Correlation  does  NOT prove  Causation
Temporality ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Temporality ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Risk Assessment BASED on Anecdotal Temporality ,[object Object],[object Object]
Risk :  At work or at home, “Risk” is part of everyday life. “No Risk” is NOT an option !
Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs  2007; 26 (3): 636-646 FATALITY RISK: DRUGS Treatment Mortality Cause Fatality Rate per 100,000 person-years Smallpox vaccine Smallpox  0.07 First generation antihistamines, 4 months/year Increased deaths from NON-motor vehicle accident related injury 2.8 Prophylactic Aspirin  in  a 50 year old man CVA, GI bleed, etc. 10.4 Clozapine for schizophrenia Agranulocytosis  35. Natalizumab (Tysabri) for multiple sclerosis Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy 65. Rofecoxib  (Vioxx) for arthritic pain Cardiovascular events 76.
Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs  2007; 26 (3): 636-646 OCCUPATIONAL FATALITY RISK Job Employees (thousands) Annual Fatalities (2004) Fatality rate per 100,000 person-years Office and Administrative 23,907 91 0.4 Total, ALL OCCUPATIONS 145,612 5,724 3.9 Firefighters  282 30 10.6 Transportation and material moving 10,098 1,511 15.0 Construction laborers 1,009 296 29.3 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 188 68 36.1 Truck drivers 1,738 779 44.8 Logging workers 75 85 114.0 Tree Fallers 15 55 357.6
Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs  2007; 26 (3): 636-646 TRANSPORTATION FATALITY RISK Mode of transportation Fatality risk per 100 million miles Fatality risk per 100,000 person-years Train 0.03 0.11 Commercial air travel 0.03 0.15 Bus 0.05 0.19 Cell phone while driving 2.3 1.3 Passenger car or light truck 0.7 11 motorcycle 30 450
Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs  2007; 26 (3): 636-646 RECREATIONAL FATALITY RISK Activity Annual fatalities # of participants Annual risk per 100,000 person-years High school and college football 5 8,600,000 0.058 Downhill skiing 38 7,800,000 0.49 Swimming 412 47,000,000 0.88 Bicycling 762 36,000,000 2.1 Boating 703 24,000,000 2.9 Rock climbing 36 100,000 36 Climbing in the Himalayas - - 13,000
Guides to the Evaluation of Disease and Injury Causation ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Guides to the Evaluation of Disease and Injury Causation ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Guides to the Evaluation of Disease and Injury Causation ,[object Object],[object Object]
Guides to the Evaluation of Disease and Injury Causation ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Guides to the Evaluation of Disease and Injury Causation ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],KANSAS: > 50% of Causation OKLAHOMA: > 50% OF Causation TENNESSEE: > 50% of Causation
Risk: ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Risk :  At work or at home, “Risk” is part of everyday life. “No Risk” is NOT an option !
Risk: Legal Standard Americans  with Disabilities Act ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
The OTHER side of the coin ,[object Object]
Risk with Return to Work: Of What Consequence ??  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Psychological Problem Psychological Risk ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
NEJM  2006; 355 (20): 2064-2066 Data from Swanson: 1994 text edited by  Monahan & Steadman Violence and mental disorders: Developments in risk assessment. University of Chicago  Press, 1994: 101-136
Example of Psychological Risk: Suicide Rates JAMA 2003; 290 (11): 1515-1519 Condition Suicide Rate % per year Normal population 0.012 – 0.017 Bipolar, NO treatment 0.116 Bipolar, Lithium Rx 0.066 Bipolar, Anticonvulsant Rx 0.155
Again: Physical Problem Physical Risk ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Apparently Physical Problem Apparently Physical Risk,  BUT   ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Capacity:
Ouch !
Capacity : Scientifically Measurable
Considerations in Return to Work Decisions:  Capacity ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Capacity ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Progressively tougher exercise builds capacity Return to Work with restrictions that progressively decrease  Will Also Build Capacity
Progressively Decreasing  Work Guidelines ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Work can be the progressive exercise that builds capacity.
Tolerance
Considerations in Return to Work Decisions:  Tolerance ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Tolerance for symptoms while at work is the real issue
Restrictions ?? What if my chronic LBP Patient Applies to Work ? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Restrictions ?? What if LBP Pt Applies to Work ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
The Problems with  Tolerance Based Work Restrictions ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Physician Agreement: Reliability  Necessary for  Validity ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Physician agreement (??)  on work recommendations ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
References on MD agreement ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Tolerance: 4 physician choices ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Tolerance : 4 physician choices Choice 1 :  Play Secretary ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Choice 2 : Try to assess tolerance ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
More Recent Systematic Review ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Gouttebarge V, Wind H, Kuijer P, et al. Reliability and validity of Functional Capacity Evaluation methods: a systematic review with reference to Blankenship system, Ergos work simulator, Ergo-Kit, and Isernhagen work system. Int Arch Occup Environ Health 2004; 77: 527-537
More Recent Systematic Review: Reliability: 12 published studies ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Gouttebarge V, Wind H, Kuijer P, et al. Reliability and validity of Functional Capacity Evaluation methods: a systematic review with reference to Blankenship system, Ergos work simulator, Ergo-Kit, and Isernhagen work system. Int Arch Occup Environ Health 2004; 77: 527-537
More Recent Systematic Review: Validity: 12 published studies ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Gouttebarge V, Wind H, Kuijer P, et al. Reliability and validity of Functional Capacity Evaluation methods: a systematic review with reference to Blankenship system, Ergos work simulator, Ergo-Kit, and Isernhagen work system. Int Arch Occup Environ Health 2004; 77: 527-537
More Recent Systematic Review: Validity: 12 published studies ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Gouttebarge V, Wind H, Kuijer P, et al. Reliability and validity of Functional Capacity Evaluation methods: a systematic review with reference to Blankenship system, Ergos work simulator, Ergo-Kit, and Isernhagen work system. Int Arch Occup Environ Health 2004; 77: 527-537
Recent Studies Showing  FCE  does  NOT  Predict  SAFE   Return to Work ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Hamilton Hall MD , et al; “Effects of discharge recommendations on outcome.” Spine 1994; 19: 2033-2037 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
H Hall continued ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
H Hall continued ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
H Hall continued ,[object Object]
Why FCEs don’t help me:  6  Outcomes ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Functional CAPACITY  Evaluation ? Functional TOLERANCE Evaluation ? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Choice #3
  How then  does  the    “Real World Doc”  decide if Joe can work  After his Heart Attack ? Despite his backache ? GestĂ€lt (Choice 3) “ Based on My Anecdotal Experience,  Patients like Joe Usually Do 
  Or Usually Do Not
 WORK, at this type Job”
GestÀlt Psychology (Choice 3) ,[object Object],[object Object]
GestÀlt is based largely on  Anecdotal Experience Which is Colored by Our Biases ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
“ Opinions are like Noses, Everyone has One,  And We each Blow It Frequently”   Old Tennessee Aphorism
Aesop's Fable The Blind Men and the Elephant ,[object Object],[object Object],5 IME doctors  examine This patient
Differing Opinions Based on Anecdotal Experience Plantiff’s Lawyer: “Joe, Go see Dr A” Defense Lawyer:  “Joe, Go see Dr B”
Anecdotal Experience Leads to  Self-Fulfilling Prophecies ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Real World Data  on MDs Certifying Disability ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Euphemism  for “lie”
J Gen Intern Med  1996; 11 (9): 525-532 MD perceptions on Visual Analog Scale Question RS NHC Confidence in ability  to assess disability  ( 0 = confident, 10 = not confident) 4.4 4.6 “ Burdened” by disability assessment (0 = more burdened, 10 = less burdened) 2.8 2.5
J Gen Intern Med  1996; 11 (9): 525-532 MD perceptions Question RS NHC Filling out disability form can  compromise the physician patient relationship 82 % 86 % Filling out disability form is a  conflict of interest  for the physician 62 % 62 % “ Better” if an independent physician determines disability 80 % 80 %
Similar to prior study ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Similar to prior study ,[object Object],[object Object]
Would Doctors LIE ?????
Ethics ? JAMA  2000; 283; 1858-1865 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Euphemism  for “lie”
Other Similar Articles ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Coronary artery bypass 57.7 % Arterial revascularization 56.2 % Screening mammography 34.8 % Emergency psychiatric referral 32.1 % Cosmetic rhinoplasty 3  %
Other Similar Articles ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Accept the restriction 4 % Appeal the restriction 70 % Misrepresent  the patient’s condition to get the desired service 26 %
AMA Code of Ethics ,[object Object],[object Object]
AMA Code of Ethics ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Ann Intern Med 2005; 142: 560-582
Page 566
Explains   “Why Judges, Attorneys, Insurance Companies, etc. think Doctors Opinions and Testimony are for Sale” ($$)
Choice 4 : Leave decision about tolerance to the patient.  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Tolerance: What to say ?? ,[object Object]
“ Disclaimer” for Return to Work Compliments of Gary Freeman ,[object Object],[object Object]
[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Conclusions “ Can I Work Despite My 
?” Heart Attack ? Back Pain ? (Fill in any medical problem)
Conclusions ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Return to work formula My Fantasy: “To sit at the feet of Dr. Einstein and  learn the formula for filling out Return to Work forms”
How  then does the “Real World Doc” decide if Joe Can Work After his Heart Attack ? Or Despite His Back Pain ? Or Despite ___________ ? GestĂ€lt Or Secretary method Or by FCE FTE  NOT  by Science
Some day We Will Know More About Back Disability
The End Thank You

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Can i work 092911

  • 1. Doctor, Can I Work Despite My
. Heart Attack, Back Pain, Psychosis ???????? What Does Science Say ?? “ To all of the men and women around the world who remain productive despite significant emotional and physical pain.” Presley Reed.
  • 2. Questions ? James B. Talmage MD, Occupational Health Center, 315 N. Washington Ave, Suite 165 Cookeville, TN 38501 Phone 931-526-1604 (Fax 526-7378) [email_address] [email_address]
  • 3. The speaker is the current President of “ The premiere society for the prevention and management of disability” For more information, contact AADEP @ 1-800-456-6095 or visit our website @ www.aadep.org A Component of the SOCIETY FOR DISABILITY PREVENTION AND MANAGEMENT
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  • 12. ACOEM’s Practice Guidelines, 2 nd Edition NO ROLE
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  • 17. SSA 2008 Report to Congress
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  • 19. 1978 to 2006 US Population change 222.5 million to 300 million = 35% increase Disability change 2,879,000 to 6,806,000 = 136% increase
  • 20. SSA 2008 Report to Congress
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  • 25. 6 Different “Recovery Curves” For 6 Different Types of Practioners Treating Low Back Pain
  • 26. Am J Public Health 1994; 84: 190-196 Washington State Workers’ Comp experience with 28,473 claims “ Recovery Curve Has NOT changed since the 1950s when it was first published.
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  • 39. BOTH Patients and employers want “ Notes from the Doctor”
  • 40. The “dreaded” form: What can Joe do ?? 9 % of all primary care visits require an opinion from the MD on work ability. - J Rainville, et al; The Physician as disability advisor for patients with musculoskeletal complaints. Spine 2005; 30 (22): 2579-2584
  • 41. How many hours/day can he lift, sit, stand, walk, climb, kneel, bend, twist, pull, push, simple grasp, fine manipulation, reach above shoulder, drive a vehicle, operate machinery, temperature extremes, high humidity, fumes, noise, OTHER
  • 42. http:// www.myexcusedabsence.com / Accessed November 01, 2007
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  • 46. Return to work formula My Fantasy: “To sit at the feet of Dr. Einstein and learn the formula for filling out Return to Work forms”
  • 47. Joe Requesting Source Treating or IME DOC
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  • 49. Work Improves Life Expectancy
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  • 108. Some Jobs Are NOT Fun
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  • 116. Even if the patient doesn’t want to return to work, it is usually in his/her best interest to do so.
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  • 124. Temporal Correlation does NOT prove Causation
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  • 128. Risk : At work or at home, “Risk” is part of everyday life. “No Risk” is NOT an option !
  • 129. Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs 2007; 26 (3): 636-646 FATALITY RISK: DRUGS Treatment Mortality Cause Fatality Rate per 100,000 person-years Smallpox vaccine Smallpox 0.07 First generation antihistamines, 4 months/year Increased deaths from NON-motor vehicle accident related injury 2.8 Prophylactic Aspirin in a 50 year old man CVA, GI bleed, etc. 10.4 Clozapine for schizophrenia Agranulocytosis 35. Natalizumab (Tysabri) for multiple sclerosis Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy 65. Rofecoxib (Vioxx) for arthritic pain Cardiovascular events 76.
  • 130. Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs 2007; 26 (3): 636-646 OCCUPATIONAL FATALITY RISK Job Employees (thousands) Annual Fatalities (2004) Fatality rate per 100,000 person-years Office and Administrative 23,907 91 0.4 Total, ALL OCCUPATIONS 145,612 5,724 3.9 Firefighters 282 30 10.6 Transportation and material moving 10,098 1,511 15.0 Construction laborers 1,009 296 29.3 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 188 68 36.1 Truck drivers 1,738 779 44.8 Logging workers 75 85 114.0 Tree Fallers 15 55 357.6
  • 131. Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs 2007; 26 (3): 636-646 TRANSPORTATION FATALITY RISK Mode of transportation Fatality risk per 100 million miles Fatality risk per 100,000 person-years Train 0.03 0.11 Commercial air travel 0.03 0.15 Bus 0.05 0.19 Cell phone while driving 2.3 1.3 Passenger car or light truck 0.7 11 motorcycle 30 450
  • 132. Cohen JT, and Neumann PJ; What’s More Dangerous, Your Aspirin or Your Car? Thinking Rationally About Drug Risks (and Benefits) Health Affairs 2007; 26 (3): 636-646 RECREATIONAL FATALITY RISK Activity Annual fatalities # of participants Annual risk per 100,000 person-years High school and college football 5 8,600,000 0.058 Downhill skiing 38 7,800,000 0.49 Swimming 412 47,000,000 0.88 Bicycling 762 36,000,000 2.1 Boating 703 24,000,000 2.9 Rock climbing 36 100,000 36 Climbing in the Himalayas - - 13,000
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  • 139. Risk : At work or at home, “Risk” is part of everyday life. “No Risk” is NOT an option !
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  • 144. NEJM 2006; 355 (20): 2064-2066 Data from Swanson: 1994 text edited by Monahan & Steadman Violence and mental disorders: Developments in risk assessment. University of Chicago Press, 1994: 101-136
  • 145. Example of Psychological Risk: Suicide Rates JAMA 2003; 290 (11): 1515-1519 Condition Suicide Rate % per year Normal population 0.012 – 0.017 Bipolar, NO treatment 0.116 Bipolar, Lithium Rx 0.066 Bipolar, Anticonvulsant Rx 0.155
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  • 153. Progressively tougher exercise builds capacity Return to Work with restrictions that progressively decrease Will Also Build Capacity
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  • 155. Work can be the progressive exercise that builds capacity.
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  • 180. How then does the “Real World Doc” decide if Joe can work After his Heart Attack ? Despite his backache ? GestĂ€lt (Choice 3) “ Based on My Anecdotal Experience, Patients like Joe Usually Do 
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 WORK, at this type Job”
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  • 183. “ Opinions are like Noses, Everyone has One, And We each Blow It Frequently” Old Tennessee Aphorism
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  • 186. Differing Opinions Based on Anecdotal Experience Plantiff’s Lawyer: “Joe, Go see Dr A” Defense Lawyer: “Joe, Go see Dr B”
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  • 189. J Gen Intern Med 1996; 11 (9): 525-532 MD perceptions on Visual Analog Scale Question RS NHC Confidence in ability to assess disability ( 0 = confident, 10 = not confident) 4.4 4.6 “ Burdened” by disability assessment (0 = more burdened, 10 = less burdened) 2.8 2.5
  • 190. J Gen Intern Med 1996; 11 (9): 525-532 MD perceptions Question RS NHC Filling out disability form can compromise the physician patient relationship 82 % 86 % Filling out disability form is a conflict of interest for the physician 62 % 62 % “ Better” if an independent physician determines disability 80 % 80 %
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  • 201. Explains “Why Judges, Attorneys, Insurance Companies, etc. think Doctors Opinions and Testimony are for Sale” ($$)
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  • 206. Conclusions “ Can I Work Despite My 
?” Heart Attack ? Back Pain ? (Fill in any medical problem)
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  • 208. Return to work formula My Fantasy: “To sit at the feet of Dr. Einstein and learn the formula for filling out Return to Work forms”
  • 209. How then does the “Real World Doc” decide if Joe Can Work After his Heart Attack ? Or Despite His Back Pain ? Or Despite ___________ ? GestĂ€lt Or Secretary method Or by FCE FTE NOT by Science
  • 210. Some day We Will Know More About Back Disability