SlideShare ist ein Scribd-Unternehmen logo
Research Project based on: Evil in
Modern Thought
authored by Susan Neiman
with a focus on Kant and Rousseau
Project by Tom Bury
• The inevitable question, Why would God (all
powerful, eternal, and omniscient) create a
world with evil in it and allow the innocent to
suffer?
The concept of a cycle of punishment for sin
through the infliction of suffering, by God,
becomes a traditional belief
Original Sin?
Doctrine of Optimism
• All evils in this world will eventually lead to
the greater good, even if we cannot
understand the connection.
• This view has an inherent flaw, it can be
interpreted as: trying to stop evil means you
are stopping it from doing the greater good, or
preventing its “true” purpose.
• Potentially breads inaction and complacency
Natural disasters as punishment?
• Rousseau did not think so. He
divides “evil” occurrences into two
categories
• Natural evil vs Moral evil
• Natural evils have no meaning, they
are a part of the natural order
• Moral evils are solely human failings
Rousseau
• Evil developed slowly through out human
history
• Shift from natural state of man to “civilized
society” creates the opportunity for evil to
come into being.
• Society is not inherently evil
Rousseau
• God ordered world so perfectly he gave
humans the means to combat evil
• Requires education and return to a more
natural state
• General Providence: World rewards/punishes
virtuous acts or sins naturally through its
supreme order. Does not require Gods direct
intervention (miracles).
Immanuel Kant
• “Kant’s most central discovery was the
discovery that we are, necessarily, ignorant.
Questions about God and His purposes, the
nature and sense of Creation, thus the
materials for thinking about the problem of
evil, are all out of bounds” (Neiman 62).
• God is unintelligible, but human nature strives
to make God intelligible despite this.
Kant and Morality
• Kant claims the unintelligibility of God is
necessary to preserve moral action.
• If we had Gods knowledge (knew the causal
link between virtue and happiness and
action/reward) then humans could do nothing
without thought toward reward or
punishment
• “we would do nothing but move for carrots
and sticks” (Neiman 68).
Rousseau and Kant on faith
Both maintain that faith is necessary in order
to keep humans striving.
Kant: “The knowledge that we often fail, and
that the world fails to work with us, may
lead to despair only faith can heal” (Neiman
66).
Rousseau: “there must be a reward and
punishment in another world, or the
miseries of this one would be too much to
bear” (Neiman 41).
Rousseau and Kant
• Rousseau: Evil is a human construct that
developed over time (rejects original sin),
humans have the means to eliminate it.
• Kant: God is unintelligible, while this may
cause us consternation because the human
condition is to try to apply reason to
everything, it is necessary that we are
ignorant in order to preserve morality and
good intentions.
At odds with their own beliefs?
• Both Rousseau and Kant suffered from the same
uncertainty that plagues all people. Kant identified the
innate desire within us to make sense of God through the
application of reason and the futility of such an attempt.
• Kant accepted this as a truth but still attempted to console
others and himself that our ignorance was necessary to
preserve free will and morality. Advocates for good
intentions and right actions despite our ignorance.
• Rousseau argues for a natural order of providence, claims
evil is an unintended consequence of human society. Evil
comes from us, so we can combat it if we have the proper
knowledge. Wants to spur human action.

Weitere ähnliche Inhalte

Ähnlich wie Research project slideshow by Tom Bury

French enlightenment.
French enlightenment.French enlightenment.
French enlightenment.
Yermek Toktarov
 
Section 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docx
Section 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docxSection 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docx
Section 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docx
rtodd280
 
Problem of Evil and suffering.ppt
Problem of Evil and suffering.pptProblem of Evil and suffering.ppt
Problem of Evil and suffering.ppt
shady sanad
 
Remaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment Jurisprudence
Remaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment JurisprudenceRemaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment Jurisprudence
Remaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment Jurisprudence
Kirwan Institute for the Study of Race and Ethnicity
 
Deut ppt-013
Deut ppt-013Deut ppt-013
Deut ppt-013
Jeff Phipps
 
Aquinas
AquinasAquinas
Aquinas
zmiers
 
Libertarianism, Free Will & Determinism
Libertarianism, Free Will & DeterminismLibertarianism, Free Will & Determinism
Libertarianism, Free Will & Determinism
Kirsty Thornton
 
Only Two Religions 13 - Review & Discuss
Only Two Religions 13 - Review & DiscussOnly Two Religions 13 - Review & Discuss
Only Two Religions 13 - Review & Discuss
sandiferb
 
Greenbelt flip flops
Greenbelt flip flopsGreenbelt flip flops
Greenbelt flip flops
brianmclaren
 
Material Problems And Spiritual Solutions
Material Problems And Spiritual SolutionsMaterial Problems And Spiritual Solutions
Material Problems And Spiritual Solutions
Yahshua Hosch
 
freewillanddeterminism.pptx
freewillanddeterminism.pptxfreewillanddeterminism.pptx
freewillanddeterminism.pptx
FroilanTindugan2
 
Phil21 wk8 deontology
Phil21 wk8 deontologyPhil21 wk8 deontology
Phil21 wk8 deontology
twiggypiggy
 
The Problem of Evil
The Problem of EvilThe Problem of Evil
The Problem of Evil
jcbrignell
 
The Problem of Evil
The Problem of EvilThe Problem of Evil
The Problem of Evil
jcbrignell
 
Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...
Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...
Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...
Third Column Ministries
 
Why We and the Universe Exist
Why We and the Universe Exist Why We and the Universe Exist
Why We and the Universe Exist
Freelance Researcher and Agriculturist
 

Ähnlich wie Research project slideshow by Tom Bury (16)

French enlightenment.
French enlightenment.French enlightenment.
French enlightenment.
 
Section 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docx
Section 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docxSection 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docx
Section 6.3Faith and MeaningBelieving the Unbelievab.docx
 
Problem of Evil and suffering.ppt
Problem of Evil and suffering.pptProblem of Evil and suffering.ppt
Problem of Evil and suffering.ppt
 
Remaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment Jurisprudence
Remaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment JurisprudenceRemaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment Jurisprudence
Remaking Law: Moving Beyond an Enlightenment Jurisprudence
 
Deut ppt-013
Deut ppt-013Deut ppt-013
Deut ppt-013
 
Aquinas
AquinasAquinas
Aquinas
 
Libertarianism, Free Will & Determinism
Libertarianism, Free Will & DeterminismLibertarianism, Free Will & Determinism
Libertarianism, Free Will & Determinism
 
Only Two Religions 13 - Review & Discuss
Only Two Religions 13 - Review & DiscussOnly Two Religions 13 - Review & Discuss
Only Two Religions 13 - Review & Discuss
 
Greenbelt flip flops
Greenbelt flip flopsGreenbelt flip flops
Greenbelt flip flops
 
Material Problems And Spiritual Solutions
Material Problems And Spiritual SolutionsMaterial Problems And Spiritual Solutions
Material Problems And Spiritual Solutions
 
freewillanddeterminism.pptx
freewillanddeterminism.pptxfreewillanddeterminism.pptx
freewillanddeterminism.pptx
 
Phil21 wk8 deontology
Phil21 wk8 deontologyPhil21 wk8 deontology
Phil21 wk8 deontology
 
The Problem of Evil
The Problem of EvilThe Problem of Evil
The Problem of Evil
 
The Problem of Evil
The Problem of EvilThe Problem of Evil
The Problem of Evil
 
Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...
Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...
Apologetics 1 Lesson 9 Arguments for Christianity, The Resurrection and the P...
 
Why We and the Universe Exist
Why We and the Universe Exist Why We and the Universe Exist
Why We and the Universe Exist
 

Kürzlich hochgeladen

Media as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern Era
Media as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern EraMedia as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern Era
Media as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern Era
faizulhassanfaiz1670
 
Burning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdf
Burning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdfBurning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdf
Burning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdf
kkirkland2
 
Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...
Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...
Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...
Suzanne Lagerweij
 
XP 2024 presentation: A New Look to Leadership
XP 2024 presentation: A New Look to LeadershipXP 2024 presentation: A New Look to Leadership
XP 2024 presentation: A New Look to Leadership
samililja
 
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...
OECD Directorate for Financial and Enterprise Affairs
 
Mẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPoint
Mẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPointMẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPoint
Mẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPoint
1990 Media
 
Collapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie Wells
Collapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie WellsCollapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie Wells
Collapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie Wells
Rosie Wells
 
Gregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptx
Gregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptxGregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptx
Gregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptx
gharris9
 
2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf
2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf
2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf
Frederic Leger
 
Gregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics Presentation
Gregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics PresentationGregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics Presentation
Gregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics Presentation
gharris9
 
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...
OECD Directorate for Financial and Enterprise Affairs
 
Tom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issue
Tom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issueTom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issue
Tom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issue
amekonnen
 
ASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdf
ASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdfASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdf
ASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdf
ToshihiroIto4
 
Carrer goals.pptx and their importance in real life
Carrer goals.pptx  and their importance in real lifeCarrer goals.pptx  and their importance in real life
Carrer goals.pptx and their importance in real life
artemacademy2
 
Updated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidism
Updated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidismUpdated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidism
Updated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidism
Faculty of Medicine And Health Sciences
 
Supercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdf
Supercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdfSupercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdf
Supercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdf
Access Innovations, Inc.
 
Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024
Dutch Power
 
Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...
Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...
Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...
SkillCertProExams
 
Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024
Dutch Power
 

Kürzlich hochgeladen (19)

Media as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern Era
Media as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern EraMedia as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern Era
Media as a Mind Controlling Strategy In Old and Modern Era
 
Burning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdf
Burning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdfBurning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdf
Burning Issue Presentation By Kenmaryon.pdf
 
Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...
Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...
Suzanne Lagerweij - Influence Without Power - Why Empathy is Your Best Friend...
 
XP 2024 presentation: A New Look to Leadership
XP 2024 presentation: A New Look to LeadershipXP 2024 presentation: A New Look to Leadership
XP 2024 presentation: A New Look to Leadership
 
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – OECD – June 2024 ...
 
Mẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPoint
Mẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPointMẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPoint
Mẫu PPT kế hoạch làm việc sáng tạo cho nửa cuối năm PowerPoint
 
Collapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie Wells
Collapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie WellsCollapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie Wells
Collapsing Narratives: Exploring Non-Linearity • a micro report by Rosie Wells
 
Gregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptx
Gregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptxGregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptx
Gregory Harris' Civics Presentation.pptx
 
2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf
2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf
2024-05-30_meetup_devops_aix-marseille.pdf
 
Gregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics Presentation
Gregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics PresentationGregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics Presentation
Gregory Harris - Cycle 2 - Civics Presentation
 
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...
Competition and Regulation in Professions and Occupations – ROBSON – June 202...
 
Tom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issue
Tom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issueTom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issue
Tom tresser burning issue.pptx My Burning issue
 
ASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdf
ASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdfASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdf
ASONAM2023_presection_slide_track-recommendation.pdf
 
Carrer goals.pptx and their importance in real life
Carrer goals.pptx  and their importance in real lifeCarrer goals.pptx  and their importance in real life
Carrer goals.pptx and their importance in real life
 
Updated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidism
Updated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidismUpdated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidism
Updated diagnosis. Cause and treatment of hypothyroidism
 
Supercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdf
Supercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdfSupercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdf
Supercharge your AI - SSP Industry Breakout Session 2024-v2_1.pdf
 
Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 4. Jochen Cremer - TU Delft 28 mei 2024
 
Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...
Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...
Mastering the Concepts Tested in the Databricks Certified Data Engineer Assoc...
 
Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024
Presentatie 8. Joost van der Linde & Daniel Anderton - Eliq 28 mei 2024
 

Research project slideshow by Tom Bury

  • 1. Research Project based on: Evil in Modern Thought authored by Susan Neiman with a focus on Kant and Rousseau Project by Tom Bury
  • 2. • The inevitable question, Why would God (all powerful, eternal, and omniscient) create a world with evil in it and allow the innocent to suffer?
  • 3. The concept of a cycle of punishment for sin through the infliction of suffering, by God, becomes a traditional belief Original Sin?
  • 4. Doctrine of Optimism • All evils in this world will eventually lead to the greater good, even if we cannot understand the connection. • This view has an inherent flaw, it can be interpreted as: trying to stop evil means you are stopping it from doing the greater good, or preventing its “true” purpose. • Potentially breads inaction and complacency
  • 5. Natural disasters as punishment? • Rousseau did not think so. He divides “evil” occurrences into two categories • Natural evil vs Moral evil • Natural evils have no meaning, they are a part of the natural order • Moral evils are solely human failings
  • 6. Rousseau • Evil developed slowly through out human history • Shift from natural state of man to “civilized society” creates the opportunity for evil to come into being. • Society is not inherently evil
  • 7. Rousseau • God ordered world so perfectly he gave humans the means to combat evil • Requires education and return to a more natural state • General Providence: World rewards/punishes virtuous acts or sins naturally through its supreme order. Does not require Gods direct intervention (miracles).
  • 8. Immanuel Kant • “Kant’s most central discovery was the discovery that we are, necessarily, ignorant. Questions about God and His purposes, the nature and sense of Creation, thus the materials for thinking about the problem of evil, are all out of bounds” (Neiman 62). • God is unintelligible, but human nature strives to make God intelligible despite this.
  • 9. Kant and Morality • Kant claims the unintelligibility of God is necessary to preserve moral action. • If we had Gods knowledge (knew the causal link between virtue and happiness and action/reward) then humans could do nothing without thought toward reward or punishment • “we would do nothing but move for carrots and sticks” (Neiman 68).
  • 10. Rousseau and Kant on faith Both maintain that faith is necessary in order to keep humans striving. Kant: “The knowledge that we often fail, and that the world fails to work with us, may lead to despair only faith can heal” (Neiman 66). Rousseau: “there must be a reward and punishment in another world, or the miseries of this one would be too much to bear” (Neiman 41).
  • 11. Rousseau and Kant • Rousseau: Evil is a human construct that developed over time (rejects original sin), humans have the means to eliminate it. • Kant: God is unintelligible, while this may cause us consternation because the human condition is to try to apply reason to everything, it is necessary that we are ignorant in order to preserve morality and good intentions.
  • 12. At odds with their own beliefs? • Both Rousseau and Kant suffered from the same uncertainty that plagues all people. Kant identified the innate desire within us to make sense of God through the application of reason and the futility of such an attempt. • Kant accepted this as a truth but still attempted to console others and himself that our ignorance was necessary to preserve free will and morality. Advocates for good intentions and right actions despite our ignorance. • Rousseau argues for a natural order of providence, claims evil is an unintended consequence of human society. Evil comes from us, so we can combat it if we have the proper knowledge. Wants to spur human action.