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Enterprise 
Product 
Development 
& 
Sales 
Beyond 
Malaysia 
Malaysia 
C-­‐3A-­‐1, 
Sky 
Park 
OneCity 
Jalan 
USJ 
25/1, 
Subang 
Jaya 
47650 
Selangor, 
Malaysia 
Indonesia 
Jl. 
Kapten 
Tendean 
No.52 
40141 
Bandung 
Jawa 
Barat, 
Indonesia
Presenters’ 
Background 
George 
Lee 
• Founded 
Innov8Uf, 
Mobiz, 
as 
Managing 
Director 
• Co-­‐founded 
Joget 
Workflow 
(VP, 
Business 
Development) 
• 15 
years 
experience 
in 
sales 
& 
business 
development 
of 
enterprise 
so^ware 
soluUon. 
• Ex-­‐Sales 
Director 
of 
a 
public 
listed 
so^ware 
company. 
Tiensoon 
Law 
• Founded 
Innov8Uf, 
Mobiz, 
as 
Technology 
Director 
• Co-­‐founded 
Joget 
Workflow 
(VP, 
ConsulUng) 
• 9 
years 
experience 
in 
enterprise 
so^ware 
product 
development. 
• Ex-­‐Product 
Mngr. 
of 
a 
public 
listed 
so^ware 
company.
Presenter’s 
Personal 
Bits 
George 
Lee 
@cupnoodles 
Tiensoon 
Law 
@Uensoon
Enterprise 
So^ware 
Development
Enterprise 
vs 
Consumer 
So^ware 
Key 
Differences 
1. Buyer 
2. Requirements 
gathering 
3. Who 
to 
please, 
saUsfy 
or 
comply 
to? 
4. System 
integraUons 
5. Engineering 
trends 
& 
needs 
6. Security 
and 
audiUng 
requirements
1. 
Buyer
Consumer 
• Individual 
user/customer 
• Spending 
his/her 
own 
$ 
Enterprise 
• Group(s) 
of 
people/users 
• Spending 
company’s 
$
2. 
Requirements 
Gathering
Consumer 
• Founder’s 
life 
experience 
Enterprise 
• Someone 
from 
the 
industry, 
or 
subject 
maher 
expert
Ability 
to 
Build 
!= 
Ability 
to 
Sell
Reselling 
a 
Customer’s 
Project 
to 
Another 
Customer
3. 
Who 
to 
Please/SaUsfy 
or 
Comply 
to?
Consumer 
• Individual 
user/customer 
Enterprise 
• MulUple 
users, 
user 
groups/departments, 
stakeholders 
In 
some 
cases, 
compliance 
to 
the 
industry-­‐governing 
local 
regulaUons 
and 
laws
Examples 
of 
Regulatory 
Frameworks 
Related 
to 
So^ware 
for 
Financial 
& 
Insurance 
Industries 
in 
Malaysia 
• BNM 
Guidelines 
on: 
– Management 
of 
IT 
Environment 
– Internet 
Insurance 
– Provision 
of 
Internet 
Banking 
Services 
– AnU-­‐Money 
Laundering 
and 
Counter 
Financing 
of 
Terrorism 
– Know 
Your 
Customer 
(KYC) 
– Stress 
TesUng 
• Personal 
Data 
ProtecUon 
Act 
(PDPA)
To 
Take 
Care 
of 
Everyone’s 
Rice 
Bowl
To 
Take 
Care 
of 
Everyone’s 
Rice 
Bowl 
• Business 
Users 
(Project 
Owner) 
– I 
just 
need 
something 
like 
Dropbox 
– Plus 
the 
ability 
to 
manage 
access 
rights 
• Security 
Department 
– Enterprise 
security 
requirements 
– File 
transfer 
and 
storage 
security 
– 2 
factor 
authenUcaUon 
• IT 
Department 
– IT 
& 
admin 
controls 
– Planorm 
requirements 
– Policy 
management 
– Workflow 
management 
– IT 
management 
– Network 
monitoring 
– Audi 
logging 
and 
reports 
• C 
Level 
– ExecuUve 
dashboard
IdenUfy 
Partners 
to 
Fulfill 
the 
Missing 
Gaps
Proof 
of 
Concept 
(PoC)
Consumer 
• Free-­‐trial 
• Standard 
product 
Enterprise 
• (Free) 
and 
(Customized) 
PoC, 
or 
even 
trial 
run 
Low 
Touch 
High 
Touch 
Consumer 
Enterprise
4. 
System 
IntegraUons
Consumer 
• Mostly 
are 
only 
involving 
the 
social 
media 
and 
OAuth 
integraUon. 
APIs 
are 
very 
well 
documented 
and 
supported. 
Enterprise 
• Always 
involves 
some 
forms 
of 
system 
integraUons 
• May 
even 
include 
legacy 
systems.
Challenges 
with 
Enterprise 
System 
IntegraUons 
Wide 
array 
of 
integraUon 
methods, 
from 
the 
sexy 
to 
the 
ugly. 
If 
You 
are 
Lucky 
• SOAP 
Web 
Services 
• XML 
API 
• Message 
Queue 
• LDAP 
If 
Unlucky 
• SQL 
query 
• Planorm-­‐specific 
SDK 
• CSV 
or 
Excel 
files 
• Fixed-­‐length 
messages 
• IntegraUon 
not 
supported!
5. 
Engineering 
Trends 
& 
Needs
Consumer 
• Any 
programming 
language 
or 
planorm 
you 
like. 
Ruby, 
Scala, 
Python, 
PHP, 
Dart 
etc. 
Enterprise 
• Industry-­‐specific 
preferences. 
• Readiness 
of 
talents 
and 
resources. 
• Taking 
care 
of 
everyone’s 
rice 
bowl.
Know 
Your 
Industry’s 
Preferences 
• Malaysia’s 
government 
sector 
is 
pro-­‐open 
source, 
driven 
by 
Open 
Source 
Competency 
Center 
(OSCC) 
master 
plans 
and 
guidelines.
Know 
Your 
Industry’s 
Preferences 
• Banking 
and 
financial 
services 
sector 
is 
heavily 
influenced 
by 
the 
big 
brands 
(e.g. 
Silverlake, 
IBM, 
Oracle). 
And 
these 
architectures 
are 
Java-­‐stack 
driven.
Cobol 
is 
SUll 
Used!
FREE 
So^ware 
Licenses 
& 
NO 
Support 
SubscripUon?
Remember 
that 
You 
have 
to 
Take 
Care 
of 
Everyone’s 
Rice 
Bowl?
Don’t 
Spell 
“Disaster” 
to 
Highly 
Paid 
CTO/CIO
SaaS 
is 
NOT 
for 
Everyone
SaaS 
is 
NOT 
for 
Everyone 
• Banking 
& 
financial 
industry 
needs 
to 
own 
the 
customer 
data. 
– So 
SaaS 
never 
will 
work 
for 
this 
industry? 
• Opex 
• or 
Capex?
6. 
Security 
& 
AudiUng 
Requirements
Network 
Infrastructure 
ApplicaUon 
Server 
Cluster 
1 
ApplicaUon 
Server 
Cluster 
2 
Internet 
Apache 
HTTP, 
Nginx, 
IIS 
or 
NLB
Network 
Infrastructure 
ApplicaUon 
Server 
(Passenger, 
GlassFish, 
JBoss, 
IIS) 
Internet 
Apache 
HTTP, 
Nginx, 
or 
IIS 
?
Network 
Infrastructure 
ApplicaUon 
Server 
(Passenger, 
GlassFish, 
JBoss, 
IIS) 
DMZ 
Apache 
HTTP, 
Nginx, 
or 
IIS 
(Reverse 
Proxy) 
Private 
/ 
Trusted 
Zone 
Internet
Granular 
AuthorizaUon 
and 
Access 
Control 
• Control 
user 
group’s 
authorizaUon 
by 
acUon: 
– Create 
record 
– Edit 
record 
– View 
record 
– Search 
records 
– Delete 
record 
– Export 
records 
– Generate 
reports 
• Concept 
of 
Super/Power 
User
Comprehensive 
Logging 
and 
Audit 
Trails 
For 
each 
acUon: 
• Who? 
• When? 
• From 
where? 
• What 
was 
the 
previous 
value?
Securing 
the 
Enterprise 
Customers 
What 
does 
it 
take? 
Use 
Cases: 
Dinners? 
Karaoke? 
Golf?
Understand 
Enterprise 
to 
Sell 
to 
Enterprise
Enterprise 
Barriers 
• New 
SoluUon 
– Is 
it 
proven? 
– Who 
is 
using 
it? 
– Anyone 
customer 
from 
the 
same 
industry? 
• Company 
Small 
& 
New 
– How 
big 
is 
your 
team? 
– How 
do 
you 
support 
us? 
– What 
happens 
if 
you 
are 
longer 
around?
Buying 
from 
a 
Startup 
• In-­‐line 
with 
their 
GROWTH 
& 
TREND 
• Solving 
their 
PAIN 
POINTS 
• Make 
them 
a 
SUPER 
HERO 
to 
their 
boss 
• Make 
them 
want 
you 
and 
FIGHT 
FOR 
YOU 
• GET 
A 
FOOT 
IN 
but 
don’t 
over 
do 
it
Addressing 
Enterprise 
Concerns 
• Trusted 
Partner 
– ExisUng 
VENDOR 
– BIG 
ENOUGH 
reputaUon 
– RESOURCES 
to 
Support 
– ExisUng 
NETWORK 
– Align 
to 
BIG 
BOYS 
• Product 
Strategy 
– SHOW 
and 
PROOF 
– READY 
for 
producUon 
– CONTINUITY 
ability 
without 
you 
– Show 
ability 
to 
SCALE 
– Build 
your 
CLIENT 
BASE
Sustaining 
your 
Enterprise 
• Build 
TRUST 
from 
Day 
1 
• Be 
RELIABLE 
& 
KEEP 
YOUR 
PROMISE 
always 
• GO 
FURTHER 
than 
what 
you 
promise 
• RELATIONSHIP 
SELLING 
helps 
retain 
your 
customer 
and 
brings 
more!
Selling 
Beyond 
Malaysia 
• Are 
you 
ready? 
(Product, 
Language, 
Time 
& 
Budget) 
• Get 
some 
Helps 
– 
Matrade 
& 
MDeC, 
now 
MaGIC 
;) 
• CreaUve 
Strategy 
• Self 
Secure 
first 
few 
local 
customers 
• Figure 
out 
Local 
Partner 
& 
Support 
• Get 
your 
ExisUng 
Client 
to 
Intro 
to 
local 
counterpart
QuesUons 
& 
Answers 
Thank 
You 
George 
Lee 
Tiensoon 
Law 
@cupnoodles 
@Uensoon

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MaGIC Startup Academy Launch - Enterprise Product Development & Sales Beyond Malaysia

  • 1. Enterprise Product Development & Sales Beyond Malaysia Malaysia C-­‐3A-­‐1, Sky Park OneCity Jalan USJ 25/1, Subang Jaya 47650 Selangor, Malaysia Indonesia Jl. Kapten Tendean No.52 40141 Bandung Jawa Barat, Indonesia
  • 2. Presenters’ Background George Lee • Founded Innov8Uf, Mobiz, as Managing Director • Co-­‐founded Joget Workflow (VP, Business Development) • 15 years experience in sales & business development of enterprise so^ware soluUon. • Ex-­‐Sales Director of a public listed so^ware company. Tiensoon Law • Founded Innov8Uf, Mobiz, as Technology Director • Co-­‐founded Joget Workflow (VP, ConsulUng) • 9 years experience in enterprise so^ware product development. • Ex-­‐Product Mngr. of a public listed so^ware company.
  • 3. Presenter’s Personal Bits George Lee @cupnoodles Tiensoon Law @Uensoon
  • 5. Enterprise vs Consumer So^ware Key Differences 1. Buyer 2. Requirements gathering 3. Who to please, saUsfy or comply to? 4. System integraUons 5. Engineering trends & needs 6. Security and audiUng requirements
  • 7. Consumer • Individual user/customer • Spending his/her own $ Enterprise • Group(s) of people/users • Spending company’s $
  • 9. Consumer • Founder’s life experience Enterprise • Someone from the industry, or subject maher expert
  • 10. Ability to Build != Ability to Sell
  • 11.
  • 12. Reselling a Customer’s Project to Another Customer
  • 13. 3. Who to Please/SaUsfy or Comply to?
  • 14. Consumer • Individual user/customer Enterprise • MulUple users, user groups/departments, stakeholders In some cases, compliance to the industry-­‐governing local regulaUons and laws
  • 15. Examples of Regulatory Frameworks Related to So^ware for Financial & Insurance Industries in Malaysia • BNM Guidelines on: – Management of IT Environment – Internet Insurance – Provision of Internet Banking Services – AnU-­‐Money Laundering and Counter Financing of Terrorism – Know Your Customer (KYC) – Stress TesUng • Personal Data ProtecUon Act (PDPA)
  • 16. To Take Care of Everyone’s Rice Bowl
  • 17. To Take Care of Everyone’s Rice Bowl • Business Users (Project Owner) – I just need something like Dropbox – Plus the ability to manage access rights • Security Department – Enterprise security requirements – File transfer and storage security – 2 factor authenUcaUon • IT Department – IT & admin controls – Planorm requirements – Policy management – Workflow management – IT management – Network monitoring – Audi logging and reports • C Level – ExecuUve dashboard
  • 18. IdenUfy Partners to Fulfill the Missing Gaps
  • 20. Consumer • Free-­‐trial • Standard product Enterprise • (Free) and (Customized) PoC, or even trial run Low Touch High Touch Consumer Enterprise
  • 22. Consumer • Mostly are only involving the social media and OAuth integraUon. APIs are very well documented and supported. Enterprise • Always involves some forms of system integraUons • May even include legacy systems.
  • 23. Challenges with Enterprise System IntegraUons Wide array of integraUon methods, from the sexy to the ugly. If You are Lucky • SOAP Web Services • XML API • Message Queue • LDAP If Unlucky • SQL query • Planorm-­‐specific SDK • CSV or Excel files • Fixed-­‐length messages • IntegraUon not supported!
  • 25. Consumer • Any programming language or planorm you like. Ruby, Scala, Python, PHP, Dart etc. Enterprise • Industry-­‐specific preferences. • Readiness of talents and resources. • Taking care of everyone’s rice bowl.
  • 26. Know Your Industry’s Preferences • Malaysia’s government sector is pro-­‐open source, driven by Open Source Competency Center (OSCC) master plans and guidelines.
  • 27. Know Your Industry’s Preferences • Banking and financial services sector is heavily influenced by the big brands (e.g. Silverlake, IBM, Oracle). And these architectures are Java-­‐stack driven.
  • 28. Cobol is SUll Used!
  • 29. FREE So^ware Licenses & NO Support SubscripUon?
  • 30. Remember that You have to Take Care of Everyone’s Rice Bowl?
  • 31. Don’t Spell “Disaster” to Highly Paid CTO/CIO
  • 32. SaaS is NOT for Everyone
  • 33. SaaS is NOT for Everyone • Banking & financial industry needs to own the customer data. – So SaaS never will work for this industry? • Opex • or Capex?
  • 34. 6. Security & AudiUng Requirements
  • 35. Network Infrastructure ApplicaUon Server Cluster 1 ApplicaUon Server Cluster 2 Internet Apache HTTP, Nginx, IIS or NLB
  • 36. Network Infrastructure ApplicaUon Server (Passenger, GlassFish, JBoss, IIS) Internet Apache HTTP, Nginx, or IIS ?
  • 37. Network Infrastructure ApplicaUon Server (Passenger, GlassFish, JBoss, IIS) DMZ Apache HTTP, Nginx, or IIS (Reverse Proxy) Private / Trusted Zone Internet
  • 38. Granular AuthorizaUon and Access Control • Control user group’s authorizaUon by acUon: – Create record – Edit record – View record – Search records – Delete record – Export records – Generate reports • Concept of Super/Power User
  • 39. Comprehensive Logging and Audit Trails For each acUon: • Who? • When? • From where? • What was the previous value?
  • 40. Securing the Enterprise Customers What does it take? Use Cases: Dinners? Karaoke? Golf?
  • 41. Understand Enterprise to Sell to Enterprise
  • 42. Enterprise Barriers • New SoluUon – Is it proven? – Who is using it? – Anyone customer from the same industry? • Company Small & New – How big is your team? – How do you support us? – What happens if you are longer around?
  • 43. Buying from a Startup • In-­‐line with their GROWTH & TREND • Solving their PAIN POINTS • Make them a SUPER HERO to their boss • Make them want you and FIGHT FOR YOU • GET A FOOT IN but don’t over do it
  • 44. Addressing Enterprise Concerns • Trusted Partner – ExisUng VENDOR – BIG ENOUGH reputaUon – RESOURCES to Support – ExisUng NETWORK – Align to BIG BOYS • Product Strategy – SHOW and PROOF – READY for producUon – CONTINUITY ability without you – Show ability to SCALE – Build your CLIENT BASE
  • 45. Sustaining your Enterprise • Build TRUST from Day 1 • Be RELIABLE & KEEP YOUR PROMISE always • GO FURTHER than what you promise • RELATIONSHIP SELLING helps retain your customer and brings more!
  • 46. Selling Beyond Malaysia • Are you ready? (Product, Language, Time & Budget) • Get some Helps – Matrade & MDeC, now MaGIC ;) • CreaUve Strategy • Self Secure first few local customers • Figure out Local Partner & Support • Get your ExisUng Client to Intro to local counterpart
  • 47. QuesUons & Answers Thank You George Lee Tiensoon Law @cupnoodles @Uensoon