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The	
  Commi=ee’s	
  Guide	
  to	
  Managing	
  People,	
  
Parking	
  &	
  Pets	
  
Tips and Traps for Managing Contentious Issues in Apartment Living


   ©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
The	
  Owners	
  CorporaHon	
  Is	
  the	
  New	
  Fourth	
  
            Level	
  of	
  Government	
  




   ©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
Developer	
  Imposed	
  By-­‐laws	
  Are	
  ORen	
  Over	
  
                   The	
  Top	
  

                                                      § 	
  	
  	
  	
  Full	
  of	
  useless	
  possibiliHes	
  (eg	
  piano	
  
                                                                     	
  falling	
  through	
  floors)	
  

                                                      § 	
  	
  	
  	
  Wri=en	
  before	
  built	
  and	
  oRen	
  without	
  
                                                                     	
  consultaHon	
  with	
  strata	
  managers	
  

                                                      § 	
  	
  	
  	
  Developers	
  try	
  to	
  hold	
  on	
  to	
  power	
  too	
  
                                                                     	
  long	
  via	
  by-­‐laws	
  



   ©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
       	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
By-­‐laws	
  Can’t	
  Make	
  Dumb	
  People	
  Smart	
  

                                                                        By-­‐laws	
  should	
  be	
  kept	
  short	
  and	
  
                                                                        simple	
  so	
  they	
  are	
  easy	
  for	
  owners	
  
                                                                        to	
  refer	
  to	
  without	
  lawyers:	
  
                                                                        § 	
  	
  	
  	
  Avoid	
  repeaHng	
  things	
  in	
  the	
  
                                                                                       	
  legislaHon	
  
                                                                        § 	
  	
  	
  	
  Stop	
  trying	
  to	
  save	
  people	
  from	
  
                                                                                       	
  themselves	
  	
  
                                                                        § 	
  	
  	
  	
  Don’t	
  interfere	
  with	
  life	
  and	
  
                                                                                       	
  liberty	
  when	
  it	
  doesn’t	
  ma=er	
  	
  


©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
       	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
But	
  By-­‐laws	
  Can	
  Make	
  Reasonable	
  
              People	
  More	
  Considerate	
  
                                                                 Smoking	
  on	
  lots	
  and	
  common	
  property	
  
                                                                 causing	
  smoke	
  driR	
  can	
  be	
  regulated	
  via	
  
                                                                 by-­‐laws	
      	
  




                                                                 §  Health	
  evidence	
  supports	
  the	
  ban	
  	
  
                                                                 §  Inline	
  with	
  social	
  norms	
  and	
  
                                                                     community	
  standards	
  
                                                                 §  Case	
  law	
  authority	
  supports	
  	
  total	
  
                                                                     ban	
  on	
  common	
  property	
  and	
  lots	
  in	
  
                                                                     some	
  circumstances	
  

©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
        	
     	
            	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
Parking	
  Is	
  Always	
  A	
  Problem	
  

AddiHonal	
  by-­‐laws	
  can	
  usefully	
  add	
  to	
  OC	
  
powers	
  to:	
  
	
  




§ 	
  	
  	
  Define	
  what	
  a	
  visitor	
  parking	
  means	
  	
  
§ 	
  	
  	
  Regulate	
  oversized	
  vehicles	
  	
  
§ 	
  	
  	
  Authorise	
  removal	
  and	
  impounding	
  of	
  
	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  owners	
  cars	
  but	
  not	
  visitors	
  
	
  	
  

Owners	
  with	
  Htled	
  car	
  spaces	
  or	
  exclusive	
  use	
  can	
  remove	
  cars	
  for	
  
trespass	
  
           ©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
Absolute	
  ProhibiHons	
  Of	
  Pets	
  Is	
  Unreasonable	
  
   Remember,	
  bylaws	
  are	
  not	
  about	
  majority	
  rule;	
  prohibiHon	
  is	
  
   not	
  in	
  the	
  interests	
  of	
  all	
  owners	
  in	
  the	
  scheme                                    	
  
   	
  	
  


   § 	
  	
  	
  	
  63%	
  Australian	
  households	
  have	
  pets	
  	
  
   § 	
  	
   	
  Sensible	
  rules	
  can	
  be	
  made	
  about	
  behaviour	
  




              ©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
It’s Time To Be Reasonable

 It’s	
  Hme	
  for	
  associaHons	
  to	
  write	
  responsible	
  rules	
  and	
  
 review	
  exisHng	
  restricHons,	
  to	
  eliminate	
  restricHons	
  that	
  
 are	
  outdated	
  and	
  illogical,	
  and	
  to	
  address	
  specific	
  
 problems	
  with	
  clear,	
  specific	
  soluHons,	
  to	
  realize	
  
 overzealous,	
  unreasonable	
  (commi=ees)	
  can	
  be	
  more	
  
 damaging	
  to	
  property	
  values	
  than	
  the	
  violaHons	
  they	
  so	
  
 rigorously	
  try	
  to	
  prevent.	
  It’s	
  Hme	
  to	
  be	
  reasonable.
 	
  	
  
                                                                                                                       	
  
 Author,	
  Kenneth	
  Budd,	
  ‘Be	
  Reasonable!	
  How	
  Community	
  Associa<ons	
  can	
  Enforce	
  
 Rules	
  Without	
  Antagonizing	
  Residents,	
  Going	
  to	
  Court,	
  or	
  Star<ng	
  World	
  War	
  III’	
  	
  



©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  
About	
  the	
  Presenter	
  
                                       Michael Teys is the Founder and Principal Lawyer of TEYS Lawyers. He has a Bachelor
                                       of Laws and practices exclusively in the area of strata and community title law. He is a
                                       Fellow of the Australian College of Community Association Lawyers. He was formerly an
                                       Adjunct Lecturer with Charles Sturt University. He has also been the CEO of a publicly
                                       listed company and one of Australia’s largest strata management companies managing
                                       over $8B of residential and commercial property. Michael appears weekly on SKY News
                                       Business Channel's Property Success with Margaret Lomas and is a regular panellist for
                                       the property edition of Your Money, Your Call for the same channel. You can read
                                       Michael’s blog at www.michaelteys.com and follow him on Twitter at @MichaelTeys.com



Teys Lawyers practice nationally in strata and community title law representing owners corporations, bodies
corporate and apartment owners. The firm’s practice groups include building defects, strata community disputes,
strata title property law, by-law / rules and levy / fee collection.

TEYS Lawyers provide an entirely cloud based working platform for their team. The firm provides flexible working
arrangements and has remote working locations in Queensland and Victoria.



        ©	
  Copyright	
  2012	
  TEYS	
  Lawyers   	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
     	
  www.teyslawyers.com.au	
  

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People, Parking & Ppets

  • 1.   The  Commi=ee’s  Guide  to  Managing  People,   Parking  &  Pets   Tips and Traps for Managing Contentious Issues in Apartment Living ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 2. The  Owners  CorporaHon  Is  the  New  Fourth   Level  of  Government   ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 3. Developer  Imposed  By-­‐laws  Are  ORen  Over   The  Top   §         Full  of  useless  possibiliHes  (eg  piano    falling  through  floors)   §         Wri=en  before  built  and  oRen  without    consultaHon  with  strata  managers   §         Developers  try  to  hold  on  to  power  too    long  via  by-­‐laws   ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 4. By-­‐laws  Can’t  Make  Dumb  People  Smart   By-­‐laws  should  be  kept  short  and   simple  so  they  are  easy  for  owners   to  refer  to  without  lawyers:   §         Avoid  repeaHng  things  in  the    legislaHon   §         Stop  trying  to  save  people  from    themselves     §         Don’t  interfere  with  life  and    liberty  when  it  doesn’t  ma=er     ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 5. But  By-­‐laws  Can  Make  Reasonable   People  More  Considerate   Smoking  on  lots  and  common  property   causing  smoke  driR  can  be  regulated  via   by-­‐laws     §  Health  evidence  supports  the  ban     §  Inline  with  social  norms  and   community  standards   §  Case  law  authority  supports    total   ban  on  common  property  and  lots  in   some  circumstances   ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 6. Parking  Is  Always  A  Problem   AddiHonal  by-­‐laws  can  usefully  add  to  OC   powers  to:     §       Define  what  a  visitor  parking  means     §       Regulate  oversized  vehicles     §       Authorise  removal  and  impounding  of            owners  cars  but  not  visitors       Owners  with  Htled  car  spaces  or  exclusive  use  can  remove  cars  for   trespass   ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 7. Absolute  ProhibiHons  Of  Pets  Is  Unreasonable   Remember,  bylaws  are  not  about  majority  rule;  prohibiHon  is   not  in  the  interests  of  all  owners  in  the  scheme       §         63%  Australian  households  have  pets     §       Sensible  rules  can  be  made  about  behaviour   ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 8. It’s Time To Be Reasonable It’s  Hme  for  associaHons  to  write  responsible  rules  and   review  exisHng  restricHons,  to  eliminate  restricHons  that   are  outdated  and  illogical,  and  to  address  specific   problems  with  clear,  specific  soluHons,  to  realize   overzealous,  unreasonable  (commi=ees)  can  be  more   damaging  to  property  values  than  the  violaHons  they  so   rigorously  try  to  prevent.  It’s  Hme  to  be  reasonable.       Author,  Kenneth  Budd,  ‘Be  Reasonable!  How  Community  Associa<ons  can  Enforce   Rules  Without  Antagonizing  Residents,  Going  to  Court,  or  Star<ng  World  War  III’     ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au  
  • 9. About  the  Presenter   Michael Teys is the Founder and Principal Lawyer of TEYS Lawyers. He has a Bachelor of Laws and practices exclusively in the area of strata and community title law. He is a Fellow of the Australian College of Community Association Lawyers. He was formerly an Adjunct Lecturer with Charles Sturt University. He has also been the CEO of a publicly listed company and one of Australia’s largest strata management companies managing over $8B of residential and commercial property. Michael appears weekly on SKY News Business Channel's Property Success with Margaret Lomas and is a regular panellist for the property edition of Your Money, Your Call for the same channel. You can read Michael’s blog at www.michaelteys.com and follow him on Twitter at @MichaelTeys.com Teys Lawyers practice nationally in strata and community title law representing owners corporations, bodies corporate and apartment owners. The firm’s practice groups include building defects, strata community disputes, strata title property law, by-law / rules and levy / fee collection. TEYS Lawyers provide an entirely cloud based working platform for their team. The firm provides flexible working arrangements and has remote working locations in Queensland and Victoria. ©  Copyright  2012  TEYS  Lawyers                  www.teyslawyers.com.au