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Epidemiologie sociale  de la maladie veineuse   Pr Francois André ALLAERT Président de la Société Française d'Angiologie.  Vice Président de la société Française de phlébologie   Secrétaire général de la Société Française Des docteurs en pharmacie Pr CHRU Dijon & McGill University Montreal. Canada. Pr Francois André ALLAERT Président de la Société Française d'Angiologie.  Vice Président de la société Française de phlébologie   Titulaire de la Chaire d’Evaluation des allégations de santé Ceren ESC Dijon Evaluation tools for venoactive drug :  Does the future lies in patients’ satisfaction evaluation ?
INTRODUCTION De-reimbursement has discredited the efficacy of the venoactive drugs For most of them their efficacy was not in question  According to the evidence based standards, one of them was able to claim for a level A evidence of efficacy and some other a level B It was the medical utility which appeared insufficient to the French Health authorities
 
An evolution of the drug registration   A  new approach of the drug registration  Where efficacy is a  sine qua none  condition But  which is not sufficient by itself To allow its registration and its reimbursement by the social insurance system.
The added medical value : a flexible paradigme Its  fuzzy definition lets the commissions to interpret it  as they whish by associating depending on the circumstances   : « Effectiveness »  « Efficacy » « Efficiency »  «Utility» «  Safety  »
An anglosaxon terminology « Efficacy »   measures how well it works in clinical trials or laboratory studies.   « Effectiveness  » »   relates to how well a treatment works in practice   « Efficiency  » »  is doing things in the most economical way   « Safety »   is the security in use «Utility»   is a measure of the relative satisfaction from, consumption of various goods and services
Efficacy evaluation tools Indirect evidences :   an explanatory approach Direct evidences :    a conclusive approach
Efficacy evaluation tools ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Conclusive approach ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Conclusive approach Functional symptoms   Visual analogic scales are better than qualitative or semi quantitative scales Oedema measures :   Measure with measuring tape must be conducted with constant force and attention must be paid to do the measure at the exact same level.  Pléthysmography : The most valuable measure except the photoplethysmography. Plethysmography using mercury strain-gauge are forbidden in many countries do to the restriction of using mercury.  The most frequent is now air Plethysmography. Volume measurement and venous refilling time.  Water displacement:   The best way to measure oedema but only oedema.
Conclusive approach Reflux measure with echodoppler Demonstrate the reflux and its duration  But  some studies shows that only  20% of patients with a chronic venous disease avec a deep venous reflux  Deep venous reflux are not very sensitive to medical treatment.. Mesure of the venous pressure at the ankle .   Lack of standard or definition of a pathological threshold. Not very sensitive to medical treatment.. PCO2 et PO2 Measure  Reflect the tissular stress induced by the venous stase But what is the correlation with the clinical symptoms? Oedema measure with echodpoppler.   Requires a mathematical 3 dimensional reconstruction of the oedema and only gives a measure of oedema.
Conclusive approach Quality of life scales Generic scale : SF12 Specific scales : CIVIQ Show a patients’ quality of life benefit  Health authorities do no pay a  great attention to their results May re-enforce the opinion of health authorities that venous disease is a comfort troubles It could have been more interesting to compare the quality of life decrease induced by venous disease and those induced by some more « recognized » pathology
A lack of recognition Its a disease without real pathological status till some complications appear. Trophic troubles Varicose Ulcer Even not recognised as a risk factor of complications as phlebitis
Venous disease status A painful heaviness  Whose physiopathological mechanisms have been partially elucidated  whose symptoms are relieved by venoactive drugs But its severity is not perceived by authorities in the same manner  than arthritic pain or headache .
What should we do ? Studies must be targeted in two directions.   Health authorities Patients
To convince health authorities Long term clinical trials Long term cohorts studies  Targeting new indications  Not making reference to the venous disease  But to the prevention of its complication who are acknowledge as « real » pathologies  Requires  many years  A willingness to pay of the health authorities But what happens in italy is interesting  :  After venoactive de-reimbursement : frequency of varicose and ulcer increases  inducing heath costs   increase
To convince patients  Because patients become consummers When they are paying for their own health expenses To bring evidence of their venous disease relief Functional symptoms +++ Physical symptoms (oedema) Quality of life  And in the next future Patients’ satisfaction
To evaluate patients’ satisfaction  ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
CONCLUSION  Perhaps are we faced to a turning point of the evaluation of venoactive drugs? Because patients are now paying the venoactive drugs, should we pay more attention to the patienst satisfaction?  Perhaps the consumer patient will require a specific metrology for OTC drug in general  and venoactive  particularly ?   Utility   is a measure of the relative satisfaction from, consumption of various goods and services

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  • 1. Epidemiologie sociale de la maladie veineuse Pr Francois André ALLAERT Président de la Société Française d'Angiologie. Vice Président de la société Française de phlébologie Secrétaire général de la Société Française Des docteurs en pharmacie Pr CHRU Dijon & McGill University Montreal. Canada. Pr Francois André ALLAERT Président de la Société Française d'Angiologie. Vice Président de la société Française de phlébologie Titulaire de la Chaire d’Evaluation des allégations de santé Ceren ESC Dijon Evaluation tools for venoactive drug : Does the future lies in patients’ satisfaction evaluation ?
  • 2. INTRODUCTION De-reimbursement has discredited the efficacy of the venoactive drugs For most of them their efficacy was not in question According to the evidence based standards, one of them was able to claim for a level A evidence of efficacy and some other a level B It was the medical utility which appeared insufficient to the French Health authorities
  • 3.  
  • 4. An evolution of the drug registration A new approach of the drug registration Where efficacy is a sine qua none condition But which is not sufficient by itself To allow its registration and its reimbursement by the social insurance system.
  • 5. The added medical value : a flexible paradigme Its fuzzy definition lets the commissions to interpret it as they whish by associating depending on the circumstances : « Effectiveness » « Efficacy » « Efficiency »  «Utility» «  Safety  »
  • 6. An anglosaxon terminology « Efficacy » measures how well it works in clinical trials or laboratory studies. « Effectiveness  » » relates to how well a treatment works in practice « Efficiency  » »  is doing things in the most economical way « Safety » is the security in use «Utility» is a measure of the relative satisfaction from, consumption of various goods and services
  • 7. Efficacy evaluation tools Indirect evidences :  an explanatory approach Direct evidences :  a conclusive approach
  • 8.
  • 9.
  • 10. Conclusive approach Functional symptoms Visual analogic scales are better than qualitative or semi quantitative scales Oedema measures : Measure with measuring tape must be conducted with constant force and attention must be paid to do the measure at the exact same level. Pléthysmography : The most valuable measure except the photoplethysmography. Plethysmography using mercury strain-gauge are forbidden in many countries do to the restriction of using mercury. The most frequent is now air Plethysmography. Volume measurement and venous refilling time. Water displacement: The best way to measure oedema but only oedema.
  • 11. Conclusive approach Reflux measure with echodoppler Demonstrate the reflux and its duration But some studies shows that only 20% of patients with a chronic venous disease avec a deep venous reflux Deep venous reflux are not very sensitive to medical treatment.. Mesure of the venous pressure at the ankle . Lack of standard or definition of a pathological threshold. Not very sensitive to medical treatment.. PCO2 et PO2 Measure Reflect the tissular stress induced by the venous stase But what is the correlation with the clinical symptoms? Oedema measure with echodpoppler. Requires a mathematical 3 dimensional reconstruction of the oedema and only gives a measure of oedema.
  • 12. Conclusive approach Quality of life scales Generic scale : SF12 Specific scales : CIVIQ Show a patients’ quality of life benefit Health authorities do no pay a great attention to their results May re-enforce the opinion of health authorities that venous disease is a comfort troubles It could have been more interesting to compare the quality of life decrease induced by venous disease and those induced by some more « recognized » pathology
  • 13. A lack of recognition Its a disease without real pathological status till some complications appear. Trophic troubles Varicose Ulcer Even not recognised as a risk factor of complications as phlebitis
  • 14. Venous disease status A painful heaviness Whose physiopathological mechanisms have been partially elucidated whose symptoms are relieved by venoactive drugs But its severity is not perceived by authorities in the same manner than arthritic pain or headache .
  • 15. What should we do ? Studies must be targeted in two directions. Health authorities Patients
  • 16. To convince health authorities Long term clinical trials Long term cohorts studies Targeting new indications Not making reference to the venous disease But to the prevention of its complication who are acknowledge as « real » pathologies Requires many years A willingness to pay of the health authorities But what happens in italy is interesting : After venoactive de-reimbursement : frequency of varicose and ulcer increases inducing heath costs increase
  • 17. To convince patients Because patients become consummers When they are paying for their own health expenses To bring evidence of their venous disease relief Functional symptoms +++ Physical symptoms (oedema) Quality of life And in the next future Patients’ satisfaction
  • 18.
  • 19. CONCLUSION Perhaps are we faced to a turning point of the evaluation of venoactive drugs? Because patients are now paying the venoactive drugs, should we pay more attention to the patienst satisfaction? Perhaps the consumer patient will require a specific metrology for OTC drug in general and venoactive particularly ? Utility is a measure of the relative satisfaction from, consumption of various goods and services