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LJUBLJANA GI VET CONSORTIUM MEETING MINUTES
06/06/2013 – 07/06/2013
06/06/2013
1. Review, comments and acceptance of Senigallia (IT) Consortium Meeting Minutes
2. Leaflet:
a. All partners have translated leaflet into their national languages. Please check that
you have uploaded your final version into the yahoo group. For Romanian partners
ID project number is compulsory. For rest of partners is enough with disclaimer
and EU Logos (just in case all partners will check this issue with their N.A.).
3. Newsletters:
a. During IT meeting it was agreed that Newsletters will be only in English, but many
partners have already translated the existing NLs in national languages due to
dissemination reasons and inserted in yahoo group. Therefore some partners
suggest that it would be interesting to translate NLs in national languages for
dissemination activities.
b. Newsletters will be produced in .doc file to make easy for partners that want
translate. The translations of newsletters are optional.
c. The NL will be firstly uploaded into yahoo group and then into the Blog.
d. 3rd
NL will be produced by KADIS about meeting in Slovenia. DEADLINE: 25th
June.
e. As Interim Report deadline is on June, the 30th
, this 3rd
newsletter will be included
as a result in the interim report.
4. Questionnaires:
a. Target group: discussion on definition about target audience of the
questionnaires. There is still confusion because there are differences among
school participating in this partnership, and thus making it difficult to compare
results of questionnaires used and other partnership actives as comparison of VET
guidance systems, so finally, the comparison will be done at two different levels:
i. ISCED 2: lower secondary level - last grade before high school (pupils)
ii. ISCED 3: upper secondary level - all grades (students)
iii. This is partnership’s target groups for all activities to be done in the
future.
b. At this moment school partners have already used two different questionnaires.
i. TK + RO + BG
ii. LV
c. The school partners found an agreement and the coordinator (Yalçin) will contact
them for making a common questionnaire (targeted to different ISCED levels) to
be done in September.
5. International comparison of VET guidance systems:
a. Marusa (SI) has found that two different concepts have been compared:
Educational System and Guidance System in VET in the same table, making it
impossible for her to make an appropriate comparison table of all, so the point
we must compare is related to Guidance System in VET.
b. As we have to have some activities in July to, Marusa will send already prepared
chart with additional concrete and simple notes on information each partner
needs to include. This will be sent to all partners till (21/06/2013), and then
partners will send the completed template 10 days after (1/07/2013).
c. At the end of July, Marusa will finish the final comparison table to be uploaded
into the blog. (1 report in word document).
6. Moodle platform
a. Elmo is going to send us a moodle platform link where it is supposed to be
inserted videos.
7. Videos of Craft
a. There is an open discussion about who is responsible for making videos of at least
five different crafts. But, as already agreed during the Kick off Meeting in Adana,
only school partners are in charge of shooting the demanded videos but PL and IT
have also decided to cooperate.
b. A common agreement has been made:
i. Avanos School (TK): Clay + Textile
ii. Seyhan School (TK): Shoe making
iii. Marie Curie (BG): Computer hardware
iv. LIEPAJAS VALSTS TEHNIKUMS (LV): Mechatronics
v. TRANSPORTURI AUTO (RO): Automechanics
vi. TUDOR ARGHEZI (RO): Computer software
vii. Poland: Construction
viii. Italy: Shoe making
c. Videos must be maximum five minutes, with subtitles in English. Beside that
everything being said in videos (text) should be provided in English in a Word
document.
d. Deadline: October, before Poland meeting (to be decided from the 1st
to the 5th
).
Polish partner has suggested that the meeting would be postponed to the
beginning of November as they have a lot of activities in October. Nothing final
was said about that.
8. Booklet:
a. E-booklet with good practices in VET Guidance from all countries to be discussed
during Bulgaria meeting.
b. Laura (TRANSPORTURI AUTO, RO) will coordinate this booklet which should be
finished by 1st
of October 2013
c. Each partner will prepare 3 or 4 Good Practices (some of them have already
provided some examples) in the same template provided by Laura. The template
should include information/categories on data each partner should provide (tittle,
description, webpage/link …).
07/06/2013
9. Discussion about the meaning of results and products according to points D.2 and D.3 of
the project proposal
a. The part related to moodle platform and videos has been solved in point no. 7.
b. Elmo suggested making a report which would include inventory of tools already
existing in different partner countries instead of developing a multilingual
platform with new products or contents as it is impossible to create quality tools
in a partnership. Already existing tools cannot be put in use in a moodle as there is
problem of copyrights and translations. There was no final definition/agreement
on what counts for being “a tool” but there were some suggestions (computer
tools, questionnaires …).
c. The final result could be a mapping/inventory of the different counselling and
guidance systems and presentations of already existing tools that finally can be
put into the moodle platform as an outcome of partnership.
d. Slovenian partner will provide a framework for these contents to guarantee a
common structure.
10. Interim Report:
a. Each partner could have a different template for completion of the interim report
depending on their N.A.
b. There is a common part (section 1, 2) to be completed in the same way by all
partners.
c. The individual part written by each partner regarding to their N.A. request has to
be in accordance with the common part.
d. The coordinator will send a draft document including these common parts by
June, the 13th
. This document will be a google doc, and partners can include their
comments until the 20th
.
11. Next Meetings:
a. Bulgaria meeting is confirmed to be held on September, 12th
and 13th
- two
working days.
b. Pepa will check the application form and will consult partners on preparing
contents for the meeting.
c. Yalçin will set up a doodle faced to choose the final dates for Poland meeting.

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Meeting minutes slovenia

  • 1. LJUBLJANA GI VET CONSORTIUM MEETING MINUTES 06/06/2013 – 07/06/2013 06/06/2013 1. Review, comments and acceptance of Senigallia (IT) Consortium Meeting Minutes 2. Leaflet: a. All partners have translated leaflet into their national languages. Please check that you have uploaded your final version into the yahoo group. For Romanian partners ID project number is compulsory. For rest of partners is enough with disclaimer and EU Logos (just in case all partners will check this issue with their N.A.). 3. Newsletters: a. During IT meeting it was agreed that Newsletters will be only in English, but many partners have already translated the existing NLs in national languages due to dissemination reasons and inserted in yahoo group. Therefore some partners suggest that it would be interesting to translate NLs in national languages for dissemination activities. b. Newsletters will be produced in .doc file to make easy for partners that want translate. The translations of newsletters are optional. c. The NL will be firstly uploaded into yahoo group and then into the Blog. d. 3rd NL will be produced by KADIS about meeting in Slovenia. DEADLINE: 25th June. e. As Interim Report deadline is on June, the 30th , this 3rd newsletter will be included as a result in the interim report. 4. Questionnaires: a. Target group: discussion on definition about target audience of the questionnaires. There is still confusion because there are differences among school participating in this partnership, and thus making it difficult to compare results of questionnaires used and other partnership actives as comparison of VET guidance systems, so finally, the comparison will be done at two different levels: i. ISCED 2: lower secondary level - last grade before high school (pupils) ii. ISCED 3: upper secondary level - all grades (students) iii. This is partnership’s target groups for all activities to be done in the future. b. At this moment school partners have already used two different questionnaires. i. TK + RO + BG ii. LV c. The school partners found an agreement and the coordinator (Yalçin) will contact them for making a common questionnaire (targeted to different ISCED levels) to be done in September.
  • 2. 5. International comparison of VET guidance systems: a. Marusa (SI) has found that two different concepts have been compared: Educational System and Guidance System in VET in the same table, making it impossible for her to make an appropriate comparison table of all, so the point we must compare is related to Guidance System in VET. b. As we have to have some activities in July to, Marusa will send already prepared chart with additional concrete and simple notes on information each partner needs to include. This will be sent to all partners till (21/06/2013), and then partners will send the completed template 10 days after (1/07/2013). c. At the end of July, Marusa will finish the final comparison table to be uploaded into the blog. (1 report in word document). 6. Moodle platform a. Elmo is going to send us a moodle platform link where it is supposed to be inserted videos. 7. Videos of Craft a. There is an open discussion about who is responsible for making videos of at least five different crafts. But, as already agreed during the Kick off Meeting in Adana, only school partners are in charge of shooting the demanded videos but PL and IT have also decided to cooperate. b. A common agreement has been made: i. Avanos School (TK): Clay + Textile ii. Seyhan School (TK): Shoe making iii. Marie Curie (BG): Computer hardware iv. LIEPAJAS VALSTS TEHNIKUMS (LV): Mechatronics v. TRANSPORTURI AUTO (RO): Automechanics vi. TUDOR ARGHEZI (RO): Computer software vii. Poland: Construction viii. Italy: Shoe making c. Videos must be maximum five minutes, with subtitles in English. Beside that everything being said in videos (text) should be provided in English in a Word document. d. Deadline: October, before Poland meeting (to be decided from the 1st to the 5th ). Polish partner has suggested that the meeting would be postponed to the beginning of November as they have a lot of activities in October. Nothing final was said about that. 8. Booklet: a. E-booklet with good practices in VET Guidance from all countries to be discussed during Bulgaria meeting. b. Laura (TRANSPORTURI AUTO, RO) will coordinate this booklet which should be finished by 1st of October 2013
  • 3. c. Each partner will prepare 3 or 4 Good Practices (some of them have already provided some examples) in the same template provided by Laura. The template should include information/categories on data each partner should provide (tittle, description, webpage/link …). 07/06/2013 9. Discussion about the meaning of results and products according to points D.2 and D.3 of the project proposal a. The part related to moodle platform and videos has been solved in point no. 7. b. Elmo suggested making a report which would include inventory of tools already existing in different partner countries instead of developing a multilingual platform with new products or contents as it is impossible to create quality tools in a partnership. Already existing tools cannot be put in use in a moodle as there is problem of copyrights and translations. There was no final definition/agreement on what counts for being “a tool” but there were some suggestions (computer tools, questionnaires …). c. The final result could be a mapping/inventory of the different counselling and guidance systems and presentations of already existing tools that finally can be put into the moodle platform as an outcome of partnership. d. Slovenian partner will provide a framework for these contents to guarantee a common structure. 10. Interim Report: a. Each partner could have a different template for completion of the interim report depending on their N.A. b. There is a common part (section 1, 2) to be completed in the same way by all partners. c. The individual part written by each partner regarding to their N.A. request has to be in accordance with the common part. d. The coordinator will send a draft document including these common parts by June, the 13th . This document will be a google doc, and partners can include their comments until the 20th . 11. Next Meetings: a. Bulgaria meeting is confirmed to be held on September, 12th and 13th - two working days. b. Pepa will check the application form and will consult partners on preparing contents for the meeting. c. Yalçin will set up a doodle faced to choose the final dates for Poland meeting.