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Assessing risks and payment by
results
Chair: Fiona Sheil, Public Services Officer, NCVO




National Council for Voluntary Organisations
Sustainable Funding Project
Fraser Battye
Principle at GHK Consultancy




National Council for Voluntary Organisations
Sustainable Funding Project
Payment by results: risky
business or a land of opportunity?

NCVO Sustainable Funding Conference 2012


              Fraser Battye
           28th November July 2012
This presentation is a whistle-stop tour of a
complex topic. It’s in two parts




                   1) What is PbR?   2) Issues raised for the VCS




icfi.com | ghkint.com
PbR is a form of outcomes-based commissioning


   (Largely) past                         ‘Old’ (!)                 ‘New’
     model of                          commissioning             commissioning
     provision
                                       State sees a need        State sees a need
 State sees a need                 State commissions           State commissions
   State works out                     the service
     what to do                                                  ‘Outcome’ based
                                   Monitoring of inputs
                                                                     payment
    State provides                    and outputs
       service



Fundamental point: PbR is not
  perfect, how does it compare
 icfi.com | ghkint.com alternatives?
        relative to                                   1) What is PbR?   2) Issues raised
So the intention is to focus on the difference that
services make - not on what is done


            Inputs          Outputs                   Outcomes

    Resources           Services provided        Results: changes in
needed / consumed                                condition / outlook /
                        People supported           knowledge etc




                              An attractive proposition: only paying
                                insofar as services are effective



icfi.com | ghkint.com                  1) What is PbR?   2) Issues raised
At heart, the thinking behind PbR is simple:
incentives matter



                                       Change in           Change in
                        PbR policy   commissioning          provider
                                       / contracts         incentives




                                      Improved             Change in
                        Better VFM   outcomes for           service
                                         users              delivery




icfi.com | ghkint.com                               1) What is PbR?   2) Issues raised
PbR is being used as a mechanism for public
service reform


                                   “...it is not enough to pay someone
                                    to provide a service with the only
                                   recourse being that if they fail they
                                   will not be re-awarded the contract.
                                    In these cases it makes sense to
                                    build in an element of payment by
                                    results to provide a constant and
                  15 references          tough financial incentive for
                 to ‘payment by     providers to deliver good services
                      results’    throughout the term of the contract.”




icfi.com | ghkint.com                      1) What is PbR?   2) Issues raised
PbR is being tested in a range of policy / service
areas

                                                                  London
                        Smoking                                  Reducing
                        Cessation         Peterborough
                                                                Reoffending
                                           Prison (SIB)
                                                                Programme


    Children’s
   Centres Pilots                       Work
                                                                    Drug
                                     Programme
                                                                 Rehabilitation


        Troubled
        Families                    ESF            Physical Activity
                                                    Programmes


icfi.com | ghkint.com                             1) What is PbR?      2) Issues raised
‘PbR’ describes a range of different models
(which can be blended)
Results for...           Payments on...   Accounts for...        Incentives for...


                                                ...a %
  ...populations            ...outcome                               ...systems
                                              increment




   ...individuals             ...output      ...the whole           ...individual
                                                contract                 staff




 icfi.com | ghkint.com                         1) What is PbR?     2) Issues raised
The debate on PbR is theory-rich and evidence-
poor...it can be rather polarised
"Payment by results should be               "The NAYJ does not however accept that
implemented across the public sector        a case has been made for the benefits of
without exception – where it exists         PBR and is concerned the introduction of
already, it should be made more            the profit motive and market mechanisms
forceful and sophisticated, where it          may have potentially deleterious effects
does not exist, it should be                 on the experience of, and outcomes for,
introduced with very limited                 children who come to the attention of the
transitional periods."                                         youth justice system.“

KPMG ‘Payment for Success’                     National Association for Youth Justice
                                                                       position paper



"Our review of UK and international research evidence found few rigorous evaluations
          of PbR and no complete, systematic analysis of its effectiveness.”
                                Audit Commission


icfi.com | ghkint.com                             1) What is PbR?    2) Issues raised
PbR raises a series of important considerations
for the VCS

           For any given service, what do we mean by ‘result’?
            How is this to be measured?
           Are your commissioners properly equipped for PbR?
           Are you? PbR needs good outcome data
           What about cash flow (post-outcome payment) and
            rates of success (no outcome, no payment)? Can risk
            be properly priced in?
           Is the VCS destined to life at the end of a supply chain,
            or is there the willingness / capacity to lead?


icfi.com | ghkint.com                        1) What is PbR?   2) Issues raised
ICF GHK has undertaken substantial work on PbR (advisory and
                          evaluative); please get in touch if you would like to know more:
icfi.com | ghkint.com                         fraser.battye@ghkint.com / 0121 2338900
Marcus Roberts
Director of Policy, DrugScope




National Council for Voluntary Organisations
Sustainable Funding Project

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Assessing risks and payment by results

  • 1. AM 6 Assessing risks and payment by results Chair: Fiona Sheil, Public Services Officer, NCVO National Council for Voluntary Organisations Sustainable Funding Project
  • 2. Fraser Battye Principle at GHK Consultancy National Council for Voluntary Organisations Sustainable Funding Project
  • 3. Payment by results: risky business or a land of opportunity? NCVO Sustainable Funding Conference 2012 Fraser Battye 28th November July 2012
  • 4. This presentation is a whistle-stop tour of a complex topic. It’s in two parts 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised for the VCS icfi.com | ghkint.com
  • 5. PbR is a form of outcomes-based commissioning (Largely) past ‘Old’ (!) ‘New’ model of commissioning commissioning provision State sees a need State sees a need State sees a need State commissions State commissions State works out the service what to do ‘Outcome’ based Monitoring of inputs payment State provides and outputs service Fundamental point: PbR is not perfect, how does it compare icfi.com | ghkint.com alternatives? relative to 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 6. So the intention is to focus on the difference that services make - not on what is done Inputs Outputs Outcomes Resources Services provided Results: changes in needed / consumed condition / outlook / People supported knowledge etc An attractive proposition: only paying insofar as services are effective icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 7. At heart, the thinking behind PbR is simple: incentives matter Change in Change in PbR policy commissioning provider / contracts incentives Improved Change in Better VFM outcomes for service users delivery icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 8. PbR is being used as a mechanism for public service reform “...it is not enough to pay someone to provide a service with the only recourse being that if they fail they will not be re-awarded the contract. In these cases it makes sense to build in an element of payment by results to provide a constant and 15 references tough financial incentive for to ‘payment by providers to deliver good services results’ throughout the term of the contract.” icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 9. PbR is being tested in a range of policy / service areas London Smoking Reducing Cessation Peterborough Reoffending Prison (SIB) Programme Children’s Centres Pilots Work Drug Programme Rehabilitation Troubled Families ESF Physical Activity Programmes icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 10. ‘PbR’ describes a range of different models (which can be blended) Results for... Payments on... Accounts for... Incentives for... ...a % ...populations ...outcome ...systems increment ...individuals ...output ...the whole ...individual contract staff icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 11. The debate on PbR is theory-rich and evidence- poor...it can be rather polarised "Payment by results should be "The NAYJ does not however accept that implemented across the public sector a case has been made for the benefits of without exception – where it exists PBR and is concerned the introduction of already, it should be made more the profit motive and market mechanisms forceful and sophisticated, where it may have potentially deleterious effects does not exist, it should be on the experience of, and outcomes for, introduced with very limited children who come to the attention of the transitional periods." youth justice system.“ KPMG ‘Payment for Success’ National Association for Youth Justice position paper "Our review of UK and international research evidence found few rigorous evaluations of PbR and no complete, systematic analysis of its effectiveness.” Audit Commission icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 12. PbR raises a series of important considerations for the VCS  For any given service, what do we mean by ‘result’? How is this to be measured?  Are your commissioners properly equipped for PbR?  Are you? PbR needs good outcome data  What about cash flow (post-outcome payment) and rates of success (no outcome, no payment)? Can risk be properly priced in?  Is the VCS destined to life at the end of a supply chain, or is there the willingness / capacity to lead? icfi.com | ghkint.com 1) What is PbR? 2) Issues raised
  • 13. ICF GHK has undertaken substantial work on PbR (advisory and evaluative); please get in touch if you would like to know more: icfi.com | ghkint.com fraser.battye@ghkint.com / 0121 2338900
  • 14. Marcus Roberts Director of Policy, DrugScope National Council for Voluntary Organisations Sustainable Funding Project