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150 Anys de la Taula Periòdica...
Que ni és cap taula, ni té el
període constant
Miquel Duran IQCC, C4D, UdG
Biblioteca de Palamós
6/11/2019
Micro i mini CV
MD: Sóc professor de química física de la Universitat de
Girona i investigador en química teòrica i computacional.
Des de petit em vaig interessar per l'ús d'Internet a la
comunicació científica i la docència, però va ser un curs
d'il.lusionisme el que em va obrir un món meravellós per
connectar màgia i ciència, i fins i tot per esdevenir mag
aficionat.
Entre d'altres coses que m'engresquen, organitzo la sèrie
d'esdeveniments TEDxUdG, promoc el coneixement obert,
em declaro científic amic dels MOOC, i vaig en BTT per
conèixer món.
Sembla mentida que la meva frase preferida sigui de "Le
Petit Prince": “Tu sais, quand on est tellement triste, on
aime les couchers de soleil”.
De fet, el que és realment estrany és que vagi diguent en
públic que "Jo sóc i jo i les meves circumstàncies digitals".
Deu ser que Màgia, Ciència i Internet estan ben trabades.
JT: Estudiant de grau en química UdG, comunicadora
científica: Ciencia en Acción Algeciras 2016, Ermua 2017,
YoMoBCN, EspaiCiència, i molts de tallers i actuacions.
University professor.
Research in Quantum
Chemistry.
Digital Science
Communication,
Magic and Science,
MOOCs,
TEDx events,
Open Knowledge
@miquelduran
Wikipedia
usuari:quelet
#magsci #aitp2019
Rubik's Cube and PT
Lego pieces... 118 different ones
#1TPDia
@eduardcremades i @pquimic
La TP com a mètode de datació (o
no)
• Error a Stranger Things, ca. 1984
ART AND SCIENCE: Dalí
The Periodic Table is probably the most
compact and meaningful compilation of
knowledge that man has yet devised.
Astronomer Harlow Shapley, cited in the preface of “The Periodic, a
Very Short Introduction”, by Eric R. Scerri, Oxford Univ Press, 2011
The primitive Periodic Table of the
Elements...
Lord Kelvin (1867) proposed the idea of atoms being like knots,
formed by small vortexes of closed currents made of ether
“Principes de la chimie” 1869
Dmitri Mendeléiev
Dynamic PT(web)
• Various versions of the Periodic Table, which may
be transformed into each other
• http://miquelduran.net/xerrada.html
• http://miquelduran.net/janet.html
TP and Physics: 2D: Flatland
TP 2D (with 3D EM laws!)
Numbers.
Just Natural Numbers.
TP of atomic numbers
1 2
41
45
39
30
34
31
36
44
10
13
28
42
18
40
29
33
16
23
43
22
25
27
11
7
9
4
5
6
35
12
38
26
14
20
46
21
15
17
32
23
19
37 ···
@SilviaSimonR @c4dUdG @IQCCUdG @QuimicaUdG
1 2
41
45
39
30
34
31
36
44
10
13
28
42
18
40
29
33
16
23
43
22
25
27
11
7 94 5 6
35
12
38
3 8
20
46
21
15
17
32
23
19
37
···
@SilviaSimonR @c4dUdG @IQCCUdG @QuimicaUdG
https://52gamespt.wordpress.com/
#52GamesPT
@SilviaSimonR
https://52gamespt.wordpress.com/
@SilviaSimonR
La TP i la intel·ligència Artificial
• En aquesta xerrada no es fa cap aproximació
històrica a la TP, sinó que se'n fa una aproximació
actual com a classificació, ordenació i
periodificació dels elements químics.
• Un bot va cercar compostos químics per internet... i
sense saber-ne res, va generar la Taula Periòdica tal
com és
• Un investigador UdG (Emili Besalú) va regenera la
TP només a partir de semblances entre densitats
atòmiquesl
• Perquè al final, tot és matemàtiques 
Names.
Old and New.
Sun, moon and planets
Geographical names
Personal names
Teresa Valdés-Solís
@tvaldessolis
LaTablaPeriódicadelasCientíficas
Sy:
Maria
Sybilla
Merian
Yw:
Rosalyn
Yalow
St:
Marie
Stopes
La:
Hedy
Lamarr
Hg:
Hildegarda
de Bingen
Bl:
Alice Ball
Ap:
Virginia
Apgar
Sv:
Nettie
Stevens
Lm:
Rita Levi
Montalcini
Sn:
Françoise
Barré-
Sinoussi
Lh:
Inge
Lehman
Ay:
Hertha
Ayrton
Cw:
Dorothy
Crowfoot
Hodgkin
Sc:
Bodil
Schmidt
Nielsen
T:
Trótula de
Salerno
Wt:
Linda
Watkins
Nu:
Christiane
Nüsslein-
Volhard
El:
Gertrude B.
Elion
Ba:
Florence
Bascom
Cr:
Josephine
Cochrane
An:
Mary Anning
C:
Emilie du
Châtelet
Sm:
Mary
Sommerville
No:
Emmy
Noether
Wk:
Maria
Winkelmann
Fl:
Williamina
Fleming y
las
astrónomas
de Harvard
Py:
Cecilia
Payne-
Gaposchkin
Cu:
Marie Curie
Mt:
Lise Meitner
Dr:
Mildred
Dresselhaus
Fr:
Rosalind
Franklin
Mg:
Lynn
Margulis
Bw:
Elizabeth
Blackwell
Kl:
Frances
Oldham
Kelsey
Br:
Elizabeth
Blackburn
Co:
Gerty Cori
Mh:
Wangari
Maathai
Ho:
Grace
Hopper
Lk:
Mary
Leakey
Bs:
Laura Bassi
Ge:
Sophie
Germain
Ko:
Sofia
Kovalevskaya
Hr:
Caroline
Herschel
Lv:
Henrietta
Swan
Leavitt
Ru:
Vera Rubin
Jc:
Irène Joliot
Curie
Gp:
Maria
Goeppert-
Mayer
Jk:
Shirley Ann
Jackson
Nd:
Ida Noddack
Rc:
Ellen
Richards
Ng:
Florence
Nightingale
Ch:
Emmanuelle
Charpentier
Gr:
Carol
Greider
Ck:
Barbara
McClintock
Th:
Marie Tharp
y Sylvia
Earle
K:
Stephanie
Kwolek
Gd:
Jane
Goodall, D.
Fossey & B.
Galdikas
Ag:
Maria
Agnessi
Mz:
Maryam
Mirzajani
H:
Hipatia de
Alejandría
Mi:
Maria
Mitchell
Cn:
Annie Jump
Cannon
Be:
Jocelyn Bell
Burnell
Pe:
Margarite
Perey
Sr:
Donna
Strickland
Tk:
Mária
Telkes
Pz:
Marie Anne
Paulze
Bb:
Katharine
Burr
Blodgett
Yn:
Ada Yonath
Do:
Jennifer
Doudna
Y:
Tu Youyou
B:
Linda Buck
Ca:
Rachel
Carson
Ha:
Margaret
Hamilton
Lo:
Ada
Lovelace
Gv:
Evelyn Boyd
Granville
Jh:
Katherine
Johnson
Lp:
Nicole-Reine
de Lepaute
Z:
Wang
Zhenyi
Rm:
Nancy G.
Roman
Ti:
Beatrice
Tinsley
W:
Chien
Shiung Wu
Bu:
Marietta
Blau
Fy:
Joan
Feynman
Pc:
Agnes
Pockels
Ln:
Kathleen
Lonsdale
Al:
Frances H.
Arnold
Me:
Marie
Meurdrac &
Jane Marcet
Bt:
Patricia
Bath
Ms:
May Britt
Moser
Cb:
Pilar
Carbonero
Cs:
M. Andrea
Casamayor
Wo:
María
Wonenburger
F:
Fátima de
Madrid
Ct:
M.
Assumpció
Català
Yz:
Josefa Yzuel
Mb:
Felisa Martín
Bravo
Bn:
Dorotea
Barnés
Ju:
Manuela
Juárez
Sl:
Margarita
Salas
Bc:
María Blasco
Zn:
Isabel
Zendal
Mo:
Gabriela
Morreale
Av:
Ángeles
Alvariño
Rr:
Ángela Ruiz
Robles
Cl:
M. Antonia
Canals
By:
Pilar Bayer
Fe:
Antonia
Ferrín
Rd:
Teresa
Rodrigo
Mr:
Susana
Marcos
Si:
Alicia Sintes
Fu:
Gertrudis de
la Fuente
Mn:
Rosa M.
Menéndez
Vr:
María Vallet
Regí
Ni:
Ángela Nieto
Bd:
Lina
Badimón
Ma:
María
Martinón
Torres
Cv:
Josefina
Castellví
CIENCIAS NATURALES MATEMÁTICAS QUÍMICAS INVENTORAS/INGENIERAS ASTRÓNOMAS BIOQUÍMICA/MEDICINA PALEONTÓLOGAS PRIMATÓLOGAS FÍSICAS
Women and PT
Dones i TP
• Marie Curie – Cm World-famous Polish physicist who discovered radium
(Ra) and polonium (Po) with her husband, Pierre; made history
by winning two Nobel Prizes for her work on radiation; and became the
namesake of curium (Cm), element 96
• Ida Tacke – Re German physicist and chemist who discovered rhenium
(Re) alongside her husband, Walter, and was nominated three times for
a Nobel Prize, but never won.
• Lise Meitner – Mt Noted Austrian physicist and close friend of Karlik’s
who discovered nuclear fission; identified an isotope of protactinium
(Pa); and later became the namesake of element 109, meitnerium (Mt).
• Margueritte Perey – Fr French physicist and student of Marie Curie’s
who discovered francium (Fr), a highly unstable radioactive metal.
• Iulia Lermontova – Rh took up the challenge — probably at Mendeleev’s
behest — to refine the separation processes for the platinum-group
metals (ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium and platinum)
• Harriet Brooks – Rn Brooks’s radon contribution was a first, crucial step.
She is rarely credited. Although the first paper was authored by both
Brooks and Rutherford, the next one in Nature carried only Rutherford’s
name — with a credit line that Brooks assisted him
Dones i TP
• Margaret Todd – Th Although the British chemist Frederick Soddy
introduced the concept of isotopes in 1913, it was the physician
Margaret Todd who suggested the term (meaning ‘same place’ in Greek)
at a dinner party
• Stefanie Horovitz – Pb Working at the Radium Institute in Vienna, she
showed that even a common element such as lead can have different
atomic weights, depending on whether it stems from the radioactive
decay of uranium or thorium
• Berta Karlik – At Austrian physicist and contemporary of Curie’s
who discovered astatine (At), a radioactive element most commonly
used for cancer therapy.
• Dawn Shaughnessy – Og Now principal investigator of the heavy-
element project (and several others) at Lawrence Livermore National
Laboratory in California, which has helped to discover six new elements
(numbers 113–118)
• Darleane Christian Hoffman – Fm Made a monumental leap in the early
1970s. She showed that the isotope fermium-257 could split
spontaneously — not only after being bombarded with neutrons. The
first woman to lead a scientific division at Los Alamos National
Laboratory in New Mexico, Hoffman also uncovered plutonium-244 in
nature.
Dones i TP
• Reatha King – F first African American female scientist to work at
the National Bureau of Standards in Washington DC. In the 1960s,
she studied the combustion of gaseous mixtures of fluorine,
oxygen and hydrogen
• Toshiko Mayeda – O helped to measure the ratio of oxygen
isotopes in fossilized shells to deduce the temperatures of
prehistoric oceans, and expanded that method to meteorites.
• Irène Joliot-Curie – He discovered how to synthesize
artificial elements in the lab, useful in many important medical
procedures. She went on to direct her mother’s Radium
Institute. Like her mother, she died relatively young due to long-
term exposure the radiation.
Sopa de símbols
Noms de
científiques
#52gamespt
Symbols.
One- and two-lettered
Atomic symbols: one or two-
lettered
Periodicity
Form.
Is there really a best
periodic table?
La Taula Periòdica dels Elements, edició 2017
The PT has no unique shape
The PT has
no unique
shape
Why?
Why Not?
What if?
TP configuracions electròniques
Propietas de la TP de Janet
Escalons
Alçada regular
Amplada incremental
Relació amb els quadrats dels números sencers
@SilviaSimonR
ˆHYi
x( )= Ei
Yi
x( )
Schrödinger - 1913
Yi
x( )
2
Probabilitat de trobar l’electró
@SilviaSimonR
Següent element??
Warning!
Spoiler ahead!
Pekka Pyykkö, PT – numerical experiments
TP audioactiva (John Conway)
(amb elements, però no periòdica)
• Hi ha taules periòdiques de tot! La taula periòdica
de les confitures, per exemple...
• Però no en són, de periòdiques!
52 Jocs amb la Taula Periòdica
http://52gamespt.wordpress.com
Moltes gràcies a tothom!
http://magsci.eu
Recitant els elements...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2cfju6GTNs
La Taula Periòdica dels Elements,
recitada mentre es resol el cub de
rubik...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwzHeRT
ofMk
Heu barrejat mai pots de pintura
de colors, o de plastilina?
http://hesatalentedboy.com/mickey-mouse-chewing-stick/
Què és l’entropia?

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150 Anys de la Taula Periòdica, que ni és cap taula, ni té el període constant

  • 1. Abans de res... Una cançó! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljsUVDOc YB0
  • 2. 150 Anys de la Taula Periòdica... Que ni és cap taula, ni té el període constant Miquel Duran IQCC, C4D, UdG Biblioteca de Palamós 6/11/2019
  • 3. Micro i mini CV MD: Sóc professor de química física de la Universitat de Girona i investigador en química teòrica i computacional. Des de petit em vaig interessar per l'ús d'Internet a la comunicació científica i la docència, però va ser un curs d'il.lusionisme el que em va obrir un món meravellós per connectar màgia i ciència, i fins i tot per esdevenir mag aficionat. Entre d'altres coses que m'engresquen, organitzo la sèrie d'esdeveniments TEDxUdG, promoc el coneixement obert, em declaro científic amic dels MOOC, i vaig en BTT per conèixer món. Sembla mentida que la meva frase preferida sigui de "Le Petit Prince": “Tu sais, quand on est tellement triste, on aime les couchers de soleil”. De fet, el que és realment estrany és que vagi diguent en públic que "Jo sóc i jo i les meves circumstàncies digitals". Deu ser que Màgia, Ciència i Internet estan ben trabades. JT: Estudiant de grau en química UdG, comunicadora científica: Ciencia en Acción Algeciras 2016, Ermua 2017, YoMoBCN, EspaiCiència, i molts de tallers i actuacions. University professor. Research in Quantum Chemistry. Digital Science Communication, Magic and Science, MOOCs, TEDx events, Open Knowledge @miquelduran Wikipedia usuari:quelet
  • 6. Lego pieces... 118 different ones
  • 8. La TP com a mètode de datació (o no) • Error a Stranger Things, ca. 1984
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  • 11. The Periodic Table is probably the most compact and meaningful compilation of knowledge that man has yet devised. Astronomer Harlow Shapley, cited in the preface of “The Periodic, a Very Short Introduction”, by Eric R. Scerri, Oxford Univ Press, 2011
  • 12. The primitive Periodic Table of the Elements...
  • 13. Lord Kelvin (1867) proposed the idea of atoms being like knots, formed by small vortexes of closed currents made of ether
  • 14. “Principes de la chimie” 1869 Dmitri Mendeléiev
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  • 16. Dynamic PT(web) • Various versions of the Periodic Table, which may be transformed into each other • http://miquelduran.net/xerrada.html • http://miquelduran.net/janet.html
  • 17. TP and Physics: 2D: Flatland
  • 18. TP 2D (with 3D EM laws!)
  • 20. TP of atomic numbers
  • 22. 1 2 41 45 39 30 34 31 36 44 10 13 28 42 18 40 29 33 16 23 43 22 25 27 11 7 94 5 6 35 12 38 3 8 20 46 21 15 17 32 23 19 37 ··· @SilviaSimonR @c4dUdG @IQCCUdG @QuimicaUdG
  • 25. La TP i la intel·ligència Artificial • En aquesta xerrada no es fa cap aproximació històrica a la TP, sinó que se'n fa una aproximació actual com a classificació, ordenació i periodificació dels elements químics. • Un bot va cercar compostos químics per internet... i sense saber-ne res, va generar la Taula Periòdica tal com és • Un investigador UdG (Emili Besalú) va regenera la TP només a partir de semblances entre densitats atòmiquesl • Perquè al final, tot és matemàtiques 
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  • 28. Sun, moon and planets Geographical names Personal names
  • 29. Teresa Valdés-Solís @tvaldessolis LaTablaPeriódicadelasCientíficas Sy: Maria Sybilla Merian Yw: Rosalyn Yalow St: Marie Stopes La: Hedy Lamarr Hg: Hildegarda de Bingen Bl: Alice Ball Ap: Virginia Apgar Sv: Nettie Stevens Lm: Rita Levi Montalcini Sn: Françoise Barré- Sinoussi Lh: Inge Lehman Ay: Hertha Ayrton Cw: Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin Sc: Bodil Schmidt Nielsen T: Trótula de Salerno Wt: Linda Watkins Nu: Christiane Nüsslein- Volhard El: Gertrude B. Elion Ba: Florence Bascom Cr: Josephine Cochrane An: Mary Anning C: Emilie du Châtelet Sm: Mary Sommerville No: Emmy Noether Wk: Maria Winkelmann Fl: Williamina Fleming y las astrónomas de Harvard Py: Cecilia Payne- Gaposchkin Cu: Marie Curie Mt: Lise Meitner Dr: Mildred Dresselhaus Fr: Rosalind Franklin Mg: Lynn Margulis Bw: Elizabeth Blackwell Kl: Frances Oldham Kelsey Br: Elizabeth Blackburn Co: Gerty Cori Mh: Wangari Maathai Ho: Grace Hopper Lk: Mary Leakey Bs: Laura Bassi Ge: Sophie Germain Ko: Sofia Kovalevskaya Hr: Caroline Herschel Lv: Henrietta Swan Leavitt Ru: Vera Rubin Jc: Irène Joliot Curie Gp: Maria Goeppert- Mayer Jk: Shirley Ann Jackson Nd: Ida Noddack Rc: Ellen Richards Ng: Florence Nightingale Ch: Emmanuelle Charpentier Gr: Carol Greider Ck: Barbara McClintock Th: Marie Tharp y Sylvia Earle K: Stephanie Kwolek Gd: Jane Goodall, D. Fossey & B. Galdikas Ag: Maria Agnessi Mz: Maryam Mirzajani H: Hipatia de Alejandría Mi: Maria Mitchell Cn: Annie Jump Cannon Be: Jocelyn Bell Burnell Pe: Margarite Perey Sr: Donna Strickland Tk: Mária Telkes Pz: Marie Anne Paulze Bb: Katharine Burr Blodgett Yn: Ada Yonath Do: Jennifer Doudna Y: Tu Youyou B: Linda Buck Ca: Rachel Carson Ha: Margaret Hamilton Lo: Ada Lovelace Gv: Evelyn Boyd Granville Jh: Katherine Johnson Lp: Nicole-Reine de Lepaute Z: Wang Zhenyi Rm: Nancy G. Roman Ti: Beatrice Tinsley W: Chien Shiung Wu Bu: Marietta Blau Fy: Joan Feynman Pc: Agnes Pockels Ln: Kathleen Lonsdale Al: Frances H. Arnold Me: Marie Meurdrac & Jane Marcet Bt: Patricia Bath Ms: May Britt Moser Cb: Pilar Carbonero Cs: M. Andrea Casamayor Wo: María Wonenburger F: Fátima de Madrid Ct: M. Assumpció Català Yz: Josefa Yzuel Mb: Felisa Martín Bravo Bn: Dorotea Barnés Ju: Manuela Juárez Sl: Margarita Salas Bc: María Blasco Zn: Isabel Zendal Mo: Gabriela Morreale Av: Ángeles Alvariño Rr: Ángela Ruiz Robles Cl: M. Antonia Canals By: Pilar Bayer Fe: Antonia Ferrín Rd: Teresa Rodrigo Mr: Susana Marcos Si: Alicia Sintes Fu: Gertrudis de la Fuente Mn: Rosa M. Menéndez Vr: María Vallet Regí Ni: Ángela Nieto Bd: Lina Badimón Ma: María Martinón Torres Cv: Josefina Castellví CIENCIAS NATURALES MATEMÁTICAS QUÍMICAS INVENTORAS/INGENIERAS ASTRÓNOMAS BIOQUÍMICA/MEDICINA PALEONTÓLOGAS PRIMATÓLOGAS FÍSICAS
  • 31. Dones i TP • Marie Curie – Cm World-famous Polish physicist who discovered radium (Ra) and polonium (Po) with her husband, Pierre; made history by winning two Nobel Prizes for her work on radiation; and became the namesake of curium (Cm), element 96 • Ida Tacke – Re German physicist and chemist who discovered rhenium (Re) alongside her husband, Walter, and was nominated three times for a Nobel Prize, but never won. • Lise Meitner – Mt Noted Austrian physicist and close friend of Karlik’s who discovered nuclear fission; identified an isotope of protactinium (Pa); and later became the namesake of element 109, meitnerium (Mt). • Margueritte Perey – Fr French physicist and student of Marie Curie’s who discovered francium (Fr), a highly unstable radioactive metal. • Iulia Lermontova – Rh took up the challenge — probably at Mendeleev’s behest — to refine the separation processes for the platinum-group metals (ruthenium, rhodium, palladium, osmium, iridium and platinum) • Harriet Brooks – Rn Brooks’s radon contribution was a first, crucial step. She is rarely credited. Although the first paper was authored by both Brooks and Rutherford, the next one in Nature carried only Rutherford’s name — with a credit line that Brooks assisted him
  • 32. Dones i TP • Margaret Todd – Th Although the British chemist Frederick Soddy introduced the concept of isotopes in 1913, it was the physician Margaret Todd who suggested the term (meaning ‘same place’ in Greek) at a dinner party • Stefanie Horovitz – Pb Working at the Radium Institute in Vienna, she showed that even a common element such as lead can have different atomic weights, depending on whether it stems from the radioactive decay of uranium or thorium • Berta Karlik – At Austrian physicist and contemporary of Curie’s who discovered astatine (At), a radioactive element most commonly used for cancer therapy. • Dawn Shaughnessy – Og Now principal investigator of the heavy- element project (and several others) at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, which has helped to discover six new elements (numbers 113–118) • Darleane Christian Hoffman – Fm Made a monumental leap in the early 1970s. She showed that the isotope fermium-257 could split spontaneously — not only after being bombarded with neutrons. The first woman to lead a scientific division at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, Hoffman also uncovered plutonium-244 in nature.
  • 33. Dones i TP • Reatha King – F first African American female scientist to work at the National Bureau of Standards in Washington DC. In the 1960s, she studied the combustion of gaseous mixtures of fluorine, oxygen and hydrogen • Toshiko Mayeda – O helped to measure the ratio of oxygen isotopes in fossilized shells to deduce the temperatures of prehistoric oceans, and expanded that method to meteorites. • Irène Joliot-Curie – He discovered how to synthesize artificial elements in the lab, useful in many important medical procedures. She went on to direct her mother’s Radium Institute. Like her mother, she died relatively young due to long- term exposure the radiation.
  • 34. Sopa de símbols Noms de científiques #52gamespt
  • 36. Atomic symbols: one or two- lettered
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  • 40. Form. Is there really a best periodic table?
  • 41. La Taula Periòdica dels Elements, edició 2017
  • 42. The PT has no unique shape
  • 43. The PT has no unique shape
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  • 48. Propietas de la TP de Janet Escalons Alçada regular Amplada incremental Relació amb els quadrats dels números sencers
  • 49. @SilviaSimonR ˆHYi x( )= Ei Yi x( ) Schrödinger - 1913 Yi x( ) 2 Probabilitat de trobar l’electró
  • 52. Pekka Pyykkö, PT – numerical experiments
  • 53. TP audioactiva (John Conway) (amb elements, però no periòdica)
  • 54. • Hi ha taules periòdiques de tot! La taula periòdica de les confitures, per exemple... • Però no en són, de periòdiques!
  • 55. 52 Jocs amb la Taula Periòdica http://52gamespt.wordpress.com
  • 56. Moltes gràcies a tothom! http://magsci.eu
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  • 59. La Taula Periòdica dels Elements, recitada mentre es resol el cub de rubik... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwzHeRT ofMk
  • 60. Heu barrejat mai pots de pintura de colors, o de plastilina? http://hesatalentedboy.com/mickey-mouse-chewing-stick/

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