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The Minimum Viable Product, 
Customer Discovery Interviews 
& Why Few Know What They Are 
Paul Orlando 
Venture Partner & Adjunct Professor 
@porlando
What causes the most difficulty for 
early-stage companies? 
…How can we solve this?
What They Say… 
The MVP 
“The minimum viable product is that 
version of a new product which allows a 
team to collect the maximum amount of 
validated learning about customers with 
the least effort.” -- Eric Ries
What We Hear… 
The MVP 
“Our MVP is the crappy version of what we’re 
going to build later.” 
-- most new companies talking about MVPs
New Translation… 
The MVP 
“blah blah blah get validated learning 
blah blah blah use least effort blah blah 
and have testable hypotheses.” -- me
Solve 
Problems 
Satisfy 
Needs 
Fuel 
Addictions
Ideal Customers 
1. They have a problem 
2. Are aware of having a problem 
3. Have been actively searching for a solution 
4. Have hacked together a solution 
5. Have or can acquire a budget
MVP technique What it is 
In-person 
Interviews 
Talk to people to learn about them and 
their problems 
Landing Page / 
Adwords 
Use a product description to test actions 
from lots of people 
Mockup / 
Wireframe 
Paper or digital non-functioning 
iterations to test reactions 
“Parasite” Ride on top of an existing network to 
speed up data collection 
Concierge People do work of a not yet built system 
Video Show what it’s like to use it 
Prototype Actually build a basic version
MVP technique What can go wrong 
In-person 
Interviews 
Delays, Bad interviewers, Wrong 
interviewees, Can’t find interviewees 
Landing Page / 
Adwords 
Don’t know what to measure, 
distribution 
Mockup / 
Wireframe 
Disbelief, No data collection, Becomes 
design and feature focused 
“Parasite” Disbelief 
Concierge Can’t actually build it 
Video Cost distribution 
Prototype Time, cost, can’t build it 
All Can’t get enough people (or the right 
people) involved
The Siren Song of the Startup Survey 
Would you like to take a survey so I 
can feel like I’m learning something?
Startup Weekend Surveys Gone Wrong 
We built a website and mobile app to let 
you find free fruits and vegetables near you 
as well as share yours with others. Would 
you use it?
Startup Weekend Surveys Gone Wrong 
How much would you be willing to pay for a 
consumer product that creates a stable 
“sand free” zone at the beach?
Startup Weekend Surveys Gone Wrong
How to Interview - test 
How much would you 
pay for this?
How to Interview – is this a good question? 
How much would you 
pay for this?
How to Interview – is this a good question? 
No hypothetical questions 
How much would you 
pay for this?
The Mom Test.* 
Talk about their life, not your idea. 
Ask about specifics in the past. 
Future-tense opinions are lies. 
You gain nothing by convincing them. 
* Thanks to Salim Virani and Rob Fitzpatrick
How to Interview – Sample questions 
Why do you do that? 
Tell me more about that. 
When does that happen? 
In what situations does this happen?
How to Interview – Sample questions 
Who else is affected by this? 
Tell me about the last time you dealt 
with this.
How to Interview – Sample questions 
If you had a magic wand, what would 
you do or change?
How to Interview – Sample questions 
What else should I have asked? 
Other people have to told me that... 
I actually have a [thing] available now. 
You can [download / buy] it here.
How to Interview 
Know what you want to learn. 
No hypothetical questions. 
Testing action is better than 
asking a question. 
Take notes.
Then what? 
The forgotten hypotheses...

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MVP and Customer Interviews - USC Workshop

  • 1. The Minimum Viable Product, Customer Discovery Interviews & Why Few Know What They Are Paul Orlando Venture Partner & Adjunct Professor @porlando
  • 2. What causes the most difficulty for early-stage companies? …How can we solve this?
  • 3. What They Say… The MVP “The minimum viable product is that version of a new product which allows a team to collect the maximum amount of validated learning about customers with the least effort.” -- Eric Ries
  • 4. What We Hear… The MVP “Our MVP is the crappy version of what we’re going to build later.” -- most new companies talking about MVPs
  • 5. New Translation… The MVP “blah blah blah get validated learning blah blah blah use least effort blah blah and have testable hypotheses.” -- me
  • 6. Solve Problems Satisfy Needs Fuel Addictions
  • 7. Ideal Customers 1. They have a problem 2. Are aware of having a problem 3. Have been actively searching for a solution 4. Have hacked together a solution 5. Have or can acquire a budget
  • 8. MVP technique What it is In-person Interviews Talk to people to learn about them and their problems Landing Page / Adwords Use a product description to test actions from lots of people Mockup / Wireframe Paper or digital non-functioning iterations to test reactions “Parasite” Ride on top of an existing network to speed up data collection Concierge People do work of a not yet built system Video Show what it’s like to use it Prototype Actually build a basic version
  • 9. MVP technique What can go wrong In-person Interviews Delays, Bad interviewers, Wrong interviewees, Can’t find interviewees Landing Page / Adwords Don’t know what to measure, distribution Mockup / Wireframe Disbelief, No data collection, Becomes design and feature focused “Parasite” Disbelief Concierge Can’t actually build it Video Cost distribution Prototype Time, cost, can’t build it All Can’t get enough people (or the right people) involved
  • 10. The Siren Song of the Startup Survey Would you like to take a survey so I can feel like I’m learning something?
  • 11. Startup Weekend Surveys Gone Wrong We built a website and mobile app to let you find free fruits and vegetables near you as well as share yours with others. Would you use it?
  • 12. Startup Weekend Surveys Gone Wrong How much would you be willing to pay for a consumer product that creates a stable “sand free” zone at the beach?
  • 14. How to Interview - test How much would you pay for this?
  • 15. How to Interview – is this a good question? How much would you pay for this?
  • 16. How to Interview – is this a good question? No hypothetical questions How much would you pay for this?
  • 17. The Mom Test.* Talk about their life, not your idea. Ask about specifics in the past. Future-tense opinions are lies. You gain nothing by convincing them. * Thanks to Salim Virani and Rob Fitzpatrick
  • 18. How to Interview – Sample questions Why do you do that? Tell me more about that. When does that happen? In what situations does this happen?
  • 19. How to Interview – Sample questions Who else is affected by this? Tell me about the last time you dealt with this.
  • 20. How to Interview – Sample questions If you had a magic wand, what would you do or change?
  • 21. How to Interview – Sample questions What else should I have asked? Other people have to told me that... I actually have a [thing] available now. You can [download / buy] it here.
  • 22. How to Interview Know what you want to learn. No hypothetical questions. Testing action is better than asking a question. Take notes.
  • 23. Then what? The forgotten hypotheses...