1. Ron Paul Visiting Bethel
February 01, 2012 | 2:41 p.m.
Congressman Ron Paul.
Congressman Ron Paul of Texas will speak at 5:30 p.m. on Saturday, February 4, in Benson Great
Hall. The event, sponsored by Bethel’s College Republicans, is free and open to the public, with
doors opening at 5 p.m. Andrew Baker, president of the College Republicans, said that the group
contacted all GOP presidential candidates in November to request a visit, and Ron Paul’s campaign
was the only one to accept the invitation. “Having one of the four remaining GOP candidates speak
on campus will provide the Bethel community with a great opportunity to hear relevant political
discourse,” says Baker. “His speech should inform Bethel students on important current issues that
our country is facing. Students can then form their own stances, deciding whether or not they agree
with his viewpoints.”
The Bethel College Republicans have 313 members. The group’s goal is to provide Bethel students
with the opportunity to hear great conservative speakers and volunteer for Republican causes and
events.
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2. guest
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cool
02/01/2012 10:29 PM 1 Like Like Reply
College Democrat
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How about getting Barack Obama to speak here? Who do I contact about College Democrats?
02/01/2012 11:14 PM 4 Likes Like Reply
Hohill_llc
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Why would we want an illegal alien and distant cousin of the Bush's to speak. They are
a bunch of frauds. Ron Paul is scaring the crap out of everyone becaue the Hollywood
of Washington is over. Reagan was the best actor we had in my lifetime....too bad he
sold out too.
02/01/2012 11:38 PM in reply to College Democrat 3 Likes Like Reply
Cjl59895
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WOW. IGNORANUS.
02/03/2012 01:09 PM in reply to Hohill_llc 3 Likes Like
Sean
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You are completely devoid of intellect - please get informed before you hurt
yourself.
02/03/2012 04:15 PM in reply to Hohill_llc Like
Sean
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I re-read your comment, sorry, I take it back - you were talking about Obama...
well then, you are spot on. My bad! RonPaul2012 - a Constitutionalist to restore
America and end the rule of the criminal Banksters.
02/03/2012 04:20 PM in reply to Hohill_llc 3 Likes Like
3. DontAssume
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Even though I think your attempting to be funny here, and might I add failing at it,
Nick Wolfe is the President of College Democrats.
02/02/2012 02:18 AM in reply to College Democrat 4 Likes Like Reply
guest
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This is fantastic!
02/01/2012 11:26 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Baconbits231
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Obama wouldn't speak at bethel without setting up a speech at a mosque on the same day to
be politically correct
02/02/2012 01:38 AM 10 Likes Like Reply
Guest
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You say that like it's a bad thing. Why shouldn't the president of our country reach out
to more than one subsect of the nation?
02/04/2012 04:21 PM in reply to Baconbits231 1 Like Like Reply
true up
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Obama’s hope… hope you survive the drill to your skull during the abortion.
Obama’s change… change to socialism.
Ron Paul is the only constitution abiding, God fearing candidate left in the race.
02/02/2012 05:40 AM 4 Likes Like Reply
frustratedwithignorance
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God fearing?? why does that matter? separation of church and state?? It seems to me
Ron Paul wants to go back to something like the articles of confederation not the
constitution. And you apparently don't understand the vast difference between
liberalism and socialism.
4. 02/02/2012 03:26 PM in reply to true up 2 Likes Like Reply
Freedomguy
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Hey “college democrat”, if you are looking to join, I think Wolfe and his other two college
democrats meet down at planned parenthood every Sunday morning at the 9 am
02/02/2012 06:29 AM 5 Likes Like Reply
guest
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what
02/02/2012 06:57 PM in reply to Freedomguy Like Reply
Blueprint494
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I think it's funny how you hide behind a screen hahaha. Freedomguy, come this
Wednesday and say that to our face. If you need directions I would gladly email you
hahah!
Today 12:29 AM in reply to Freedomguy Like Reply
guest
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Many of these comments leave me incredibly disappointed in the future of Bethel if these are
attitudes that we have toward one another.
02/02/2012 11:53 AM 21 Likes A Liked Reply
Good Christian
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How can there be College Democrats at Bethel University in the first place?
02/02/2012 12:09 PM 4 Likes Like Reply
Caseynordine
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Christians can't be democrats?
02/03/2012 12:37 PM in reply to Good Christian 7 Likes Like Reply
5. Robert
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I stumbled upon this accidentally. I'm a former professing christian and think that I would
have reacted the same way as Freedomguy, true up, and Baconbits231 at one time in my life.
However, reading those comments with a different outlook helps me realize how freaking
rude and angry they sound. The guy asked about college democrats and got some venom in
return. My guess is that you guys also consider yourselves humble Christ followers. Thats
not the message coming across.
02/02/2012 12:18 PM 15 Likes A Liked Reply
Fwill187
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And this is what our private Christian colleges are producing... these comments are so hateful
and bitter, I wasn't raised Christian, however attend Bethel Seminary SD ..how sad,
02/02/2012 12:48 PM 3 Likes A Liked Reply
Guest
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how do you get tickets
02/02/2012 01:05 PM 2 Likes Like Reply
The Bethel Student Association
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This event is free and open to the public! No tickets are required, but come early to
make sure you get a seat as it's a first-come, first-serve basis. Thanks!
02/02/2012 01:45 PM in reply to Guest 1 Like Like Reply
Back to the Bible
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I am highly concerned by the tone of these comments. We are a community of Christ
Followers, as is defined by the institution's core values. As such, we are part of one body,
brothers and sisters in Christ. Can we put aside party lines and live in Christ's reconciling
work? As Ephesians 2: 14-16 tells us:
"For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier,
the dividing wall of hostility, by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and
6. regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus
making peace, and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which
he put to death their hostility."
02/02/2012 02:08 PM 17 Likes A Liked Reply
VeteranPaulSupporter
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How many seats are available? Ron Paul generates big crowds.
02/02/2012 02:08 PM 2 Likes Like Reply
Kent
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Brothers and sisters, please keep in mind that behind every label of Republican or Democrat
is a human soul created by God. People in both of those groups are Christ-followers, are
present at Bethel, and are worthy of this common respect.
We may disagree on the ideas and policies and let's have a healthy dialogue about those.
What we shouldn't do is use this comment forum as a way to insult people personally or to
make them a caricature by distorting their humanity or their motives.
As Baker mentions in the article, we have an opportunity to directly engage the current
political dialogue
of a possible presidential candidate within Bethel's walls. Let's make the most of that
opportunity by honoring each other in respectful dialogue over the issues and what they
mean to us as members of a political party, members of the body of Christians, and as
members of humanity.
02/02/2012 02:31 PM 19 Likes A Liked Reply
Dupuismn
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RP12!
02/02/2012 03:01 PM 5 Likes Like Reply
guest
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Awesome! I wish I were at the Minnesota campus!
7. 02/02/2012 04:24 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Rjw23628
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I found many of these comments hilarious. Lighten up folks! Take a joke or two in the side.
Or has nobody heard of satire comedy before? Satires sometimes reveal a harsh truth about
ourselves or society or a certain person through comedy. Unless you can put yourself into a
new perspective, you leave yourself disadvantaged stuck in your own self-righteous world.
Oh and love the contextual analysis of Ephesians... I mean who knew that gentiles were
democrats and Jews were republicans. Missed that in my exegesis paper :/
02/02/2012 04:25 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Jesus Was Not A Republican
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I have to disagree, some of these comments were horribly offensive and not funny at
all.
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BethelSurvivor
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Having survived Bethel and entered "the real world" I have to chuckle at many of the
comments on hear. I can see that 15 years Bethel still is full of fakers. Kudos to those of you
who are able to have a respectful dialog, think critically and don't just blindly inherit your
beliefs and views.
02/02/2012 10:15 PM 6 Likes A Liked Reply
Zero
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Thank you for your self-righteousness.
02/03/2012 11:58 AM in reply to BethelSurvivor Like Reply
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You don't know what the real world is "BethelSurvivor". The real world is that which
isn't the fake world. How can you state such fallacies and still be a true Christian? You
can't. Fascist.
8. Yesterday 08:46 PM in reply to BethelSurvivor Like Reply
Duste91
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this is why I'm sick of bethel. Lighten up and live people. Ever heard of satire. It could teach
you a thing or two. Oh that's right satire is evil just like south park I forgot!
02/03/2012 02:12 AM 1 Like Like Reply
yitzhak
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boom! haha seriously all these people just need live and let live and learn to take a
joke. and maybe have more sex
02/04/2012 03:37 PM in reply to Duste91 Like Reply
Dude
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I’m with you Duster91. Nobody was personally attacked here. Great questions to ask
ourselves though! Frustratedwithingnorance-Why does it matter if you are God fearing or
not? During an abortion, is an innocent person being attacked? In socialist government, is
there theft and bondage? I can love you brother, and not love your sin because love is an
action not a feeling you get from a warm blanket. The guy makes a point and now all of
Bethel is "under attack"… how mean spirited!
02/03/2012 06:09 AM Like Reply
Petris07
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You can love sinner and still point out that he's a sinner. If you know someone who is
lost without Christ or saved and living in sin and you say nothing, you don't love that
person.
02/04/2012 11:20 AM in reply to Dude 1 Like Like Reply
Outsider
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Hey Bethelsurvivor, be advised! the “real world” is Satins domain and you can be deceived.
02/03/2012 06:23 AM 1 Like Like Reply
9. College Democrat
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But this is no reason to think that every one is/should be a Christian. Yes we should
live our lives in the glory of Our Lord but we should not be blinded from society with
it.
02/03/2012 12:05 PM in reply to Outsider Like Reply
Petris07
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The only way we can be free of the condemnation of our sins is to believe on
Christ. "I am the way the truth and the life and no man cometh to the Father but
by me." - Jesus
02/04/2012 11:21 AM in reply to College Democrat 1 Like Like
College Democrat
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I think people were attacked here, and I do not believe that there was any satire here. I think
people do need to lighten up and not be blinded by a Conservative Christian Status. Just
because I am a Democrat does not mean that I don't have any morals, am a socialist, and not a
Christian. This is what disturbs me with many acclaimed Republicans is that they have these
assumptions.
02/03/2012 12:02 PM 3 Likes A Liked Reply
Petris07
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From your above post, you seem not to be a believer at all. Jesus wasn't a philosopher
who came to Earth to teach us how to live, He was God in the flesh. A person can't
disbelieve this and be a Christian.
02/04/2012 11:22 AM in reply to College Democrat Like Reply
True Believer
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Jesus taught us to love God, and love our neighbors. How is saying
that democrats aren't Christians loving your neighbors?
Jesus dosen't judge us, and dosen't want us to judge each other. Let there be
PEACE.
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02/04/2012 01:37 PM in reply to Petris07 1 Like Like
Will
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Satire is one thing.
Ron Paul, being a Texan, has hopefully have seen a few Westerns in his day. That being the
case, he could probably give you another name for what it is when one, anonymously,
"satirizes" someone else by name. It's called a sucker punch, and it makes John Wayne squint
his eyes and frown in a certain way.
Ron Paul could, hopefully, also tell you what it means to put your name behind something
and stand for it. How it takes courage, and a good deal of hard thinking before you do it.
Sure, internet comments are an easy place to take a pot shot at someone or something--after
all, you can swing away, risk free. Ever notice, though, how the heroes in the story tend to
walk right down main street?
02/03/2012 12:26 PM 2 Likes Like Reply
Schmarr
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If we focus on the topic at hand, I think we will all agree how important it is to be well
informed about who we elect as our next president.
Go to the event and decide for yourselves! Is Ron Paul the best GOP candidate? Is Ron Paul
better than Barrack Obama?
02/03/2012 01:49 PM 4 Likes A Liked Reply
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11. I second Back to the Bible's statement about the tone of these comments. As Christians, we are
called to love and accept one another. As a member of College Republicans, I am clearly not
in support of Obama or the Democratic platform as a rule. I however find that slinging mud
and making rude and vulgar comments is not going to get us anywhere. Both Democrats and
Republicans alike have flaws and good attributes as well. Instead of tearing one antoher
down because they are different than us, how about we learn to listen to one another and
accept others.
02/03/2012 01:59 PM 7 Likes A Liked Reply
Thankyou
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Thank you, and well said.
It shouldn't matter which party we associate since we are all Christians.
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THAT'S MY ROOMMATE!
02/03/2012 04:02 PM in reply to Smb59496 Like Reply
damian
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This is why I will never attend a very conservative religous institution again. Christians are a
bad a sinners! All hypocrits!!!!!
02/03/2012 03:47 PM 1 Like Like Reply
SGT
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You young folks are all delusional if you think any of the comments that I have read
here are "bad" or "disrespectful". It's called discourse. Break your conditioning please
and discover the truth: Both the Right and the Left are in the pockets of the Corporate
interest - particularly the Banksters and the Federal Reserve System established in
1913. Once you educate yourself, you will understand the Dr. Ron Paul - a Christian
AND a doctor who delivered more than 4,000 babies - is the ONLY candidate who is
NOT bought and paid for by the Globalists who have and will continue to GUT this
country and YOUR FUTURE. Please pray for enlightenment, because many of you are
12. living in the darkness of a false and very broken paradigm. Go see him speak
tomorrow night and you will begin to understand what personal Liberty means.
02/03/2012 04:28 PM in reply to damian 1 Like Like Reply
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I'm with Will on this. This forum is hardly the place to voice an opinion. Do it in front of
somebody that can respond and you can be held accountable for what you say. The loudest or
most violent voice ends up drowning out the rest anyway.
The way I see it is some troll got fed and now this wall of text has become excruciatingly
painful to read through; all the democrats playing the minority victim card yelling "hey!
recognize me as a christian!" and the republicans bullying "hey something something
offensive and insensitive!"
That is all for this troll. Hopefully something I write will save you time and preserve your
wisdom.
02/03/2012 05:37 PM A Liked Reply
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Trolls sometimes have to exist to expose the ugly truth behind some people.
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Justin
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Hi, I'm a current student at Bethel University.
Can we stop the stupid and unintelligent dialogue? There is so much hatred going on here
it's unbelievable!
02/03/2012 06:54 PM 3 Likes Like Reply
lol
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lol
02/04/2012 12:51 PM Like Reply
13. Chillpill
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I think you're all crazy! I'm not going to say if I'm a republican or democrat, partly cause I
hate the partisan nature of politics in America today, and partly because I would get ripped
apart by one side or the other (for being a hypocritical bigot or insensitive bastard, or
ignorant idealist or uninformed opinionated idiot) before even having the ability to present
some of my deeper thoughts and beliefs. I think it's awesome that we have the opportunity to
host a strong candidate from either party here at Bethel, and that it is a great opportunity to
open up political discourse and hear first-hand from a very unique candidate in an
interesting election year. Quit the hating on one side or the other or extrapolating about the
moral majority/conservative evangelical coalition or any other garbage like that, and try to
have some civilized discourse over the issues that we should care about as loving Christians
in a broken world. Congrats to DBake and the College Republicans for getting a high-profile
candidate to speak on campus. A cool opportunity. I regret a lot of the comments on here, but
think that former alums/concerned outsiders need to realize that these views do not reflect
the views/thoughts of the vast majority of kids on campus here (I would venture a guess that
most of those posters don't go to Bethel). Show up to chapel sometime or Quest Forums or
TCO or team sporting events or any other Bethel event and you can get a better outlook on
how we are operating as a Christian university compared with viewing an online forum open
to any anonymous poster.
02/04/2012 02:51 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Founder of BU Dems
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I started the College Dems at Bethel in 2004. When asked if we could host a political leader
on campus, the answer was a firm "no" because Bethel doesn't mix politics with
religion...what a joke.
02/04/2012 02:52 PM 2 Likes Like Reply
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Good thing they wise'd up and realized it's great for the university
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Ran Santos for President
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I have a cat.
14. 02/04/2012 03:48 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Duste91
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i don't understand the argument between democrats and republicans. Ron Paul isn't a
republican He is a libertarian. he is just in the republican party trying to change it for the
better and beat Obama cause no one else can get support of democrats and republicans
02/04/2012 04:16 PM Like Reply
Mr Chow
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You dorks are the reason I went to St Thomas. Paul is a good man with solid values ...
Apparently some Bethel covenites appeal to the Obama values of Rev Wright and Obama
Socialism. Also... Where is the term "seperation of church in state " in our Constitution? Its
not...
02/04/2012 06:39 PM Like Reply
Rjw23628
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"Where is the term 'seperation of church and state' in our constitution? It's not..."
thaaaaaankkkkk yoooooouuuuuuuuu
Its actually in the communist constitution lol
02/04/2012 09:44 PM in reply to Mr Chow Like Reply
Moderator
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it actually is part of the first amendment, yes the term "separation of church and state"
may not be used, it touches on the subject
Yesterday 01:27 AM in reply to Mr Chow Like Reply
Philip Olson
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As a 2008 graduate of Bethel University, I have never been prouder of my alma mater. I was a
member of a collwge republicans at bethel and can tell they've come a long way since I was a
student at Bethel. When i was there, the leader of college republicans didn't want anything to
15. do with Ron Paul so I started my own Ron Paul Group on face book in 2008. Since Ron Paul
is really the only true Christian just-war/anti-war candidate in the race, I think a stop like
this on the campaign trail makes perfect sense.
Ron Paul is the only one with any level of Christian integrity in the race. It' really ironic too,
because unlike candidates like Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum and Rick Perry, he doesn't
wear his Chrisitianity on his sleeve and leverage it for political gain. He probably won't even
talk about religion tonight. If I wasn't in the out of state I would certainly have been in
attendance tonight.
02/04/2012 06:41 PM Like Reply
College Democrat
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Kudos
Yesterday 01:30 AM in reply to Philip Olson Like Reply
guest
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Will audio from this talk be available for those that weren't able to get to the event?
02/04/2012 08:37 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Drunk
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I like turtles
02/04/2012 09:06 PM Like Reply
Stone-cold-sober
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"Drunk", you should be ashamed of yourself...how dare you post such a ridiculous
comment in the middle of serious, mature conversation amongst people who are brave
enough to post their opinions anonymously! So immature.
Yesterday 01:49 AM in reply to Drunk Like Reply
For Liberty
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Here is the video, broadcast by CNN, no less!
16. http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/02... (http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/02/ron-paul-rally-speech-
in-minnesota-during-nevada-caucus-feb-4-2012/)
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I'm a Bethel student, and attended today's event with Ron Paul. He delivered his message in
an intelligent and respectful manner. It saddens me that participants in this forum choose the
easier path of negativity.
02/04/2012 11:37 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Dale Kaskey
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Congratulations to the people of this college for going to the work of setting up this rally. I
think it is great that young people are getting involved in politics so that their views can be
heard by the leaders of this country. I feel that this country is headed down the wrong path
right now and that Ron Paul has a lot of ideas that need to be heard and I applaud him for
taking the time to involve young people all over this country. I just hope that the situation
does not erode to the point where it is irreversable before we can get it corrected. Anyway it
was good to see so many people at the event.
Yesterday 12:19 PM 1 Like Like Reply
Billy Mays
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This is the lolz.
Yesterday 08:41 PM Like Reply
Wartcreamer
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Yesterday 11:12 PM 1 Like Like Reply
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