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Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle              1
•What is Big Heart Design?
•Don’t
•Don t take notes! It s all at www ministry2 org/wiki
                   It’s        www.ministry2.org/wiki
          •What we’ll be covering today

 Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                2
The Facts of
                Phone Book Advertising


Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle       3
Phone Book Advertising
 Nationally, Yellow Page ads deliver 422 calls
          ll   ll          d d l            ll
per year on average at a cost of $10.00 per call.
         $4,220.00 per year (National Average)
     CRM Associates /2005 Yellow Pages Metered Ad Study (National Study)
 Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                        4
Phone Book Advertising
       White Page listings deliver about 365 calls
         per year at a cost of $0.60 (per call).
          $219.00 per year (National Average)
    CRM Associates /2005 Yellow Pages Metered Ad Study (National Study)
Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                        5
What We Know About
                    Religion Web Surfing


Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle         6
Religion Web Surfers
    28 million Americans have used the Internet 
       g       g          p
    to get religious and spiritual information and 
     connect with others on their faith journeys.
    Pew Internet & American Life Project/2001 CyberFaith: How Americans Pursue Religion Online

Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                               7
Religion Web Surfers
14% of the 28 million American Religion Surfers have 
         gone online to find a new church.

                    That’s nearly 4 million people
      Pew Internet & American Life Project/2001 CyberFaith: How Americans Pursue Religion Online


Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                                 8
Let’s Compare Phone Book Ads
              and Websites


Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle   9
Phone Book Versus Website
                       Phone Book                 Web
Modifications          Once a year                Anytime
Reach                  Metro area of phone book   Targeted global outreach
Contact Options        Phone call or visit        Phone, Email Subs., bookmark, print page, etc.
Content                Limited to advertisement   Unlimited in multiple formats
Measures               Count phone calls (?)      Site analytics


  Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                       10
Phone Book Versus Website
                       Yellow Page Adv.        White Page Adv.         Website
Reach                  422 calls (year/avg.)   365 calls (year/avg.)   28 mill. seekers
Design Cost            $2,849 one time/avg.    $0                      $7,000 one time/avg.
Yearly Adv. Cost       $4,220.00               $219.00                 $3,600.00
2 Year Cost            $11,289                 $438                    $10,610.68 (high end)




     Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                            11
Temple or Tool?
Jesus gave us three basic commands to follow in the Great Commandments and the Great Commission:

               Love God   Love our neighbors                      Make disciples of all people.
     If our buildings are not built for one of those purposes, then they (buildings) are temples to
     If our buildings are not built for one of those purposes then they (buildings) are temples to
      God, a temple God doesn’t want. Instead they need to be tools that God uses to build His
            Kingdom. So, before a church picks‐up a hammer, it needs to pick up the Bible.

          Churches should have people plans before they draw up building plans!

               Source: Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions / Constructing New Church Building in Alabama

   Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                                          12
Story of Bethany Lutheran Church
In 1996 what was being spent on communications:



    Yellow Pages                     Bulletin/Print Mat.   Computers/Net.   Website
    $10,000/year                         $50,000             $20,000          $0


Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                    13
Story of Bethany Lutheran Church
                     How we changed the budget:



    Yellow Pages                     Bulletin/Print Mat.   Computers/Net.   Website
    $10,000/year                         $40,000             $20,000           $0
   Kept the same                         $20,000           Kept the same    $20,000

Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                    14
Budgeting
                     Ask these questions:
                     What can you afford?
                     What can you afford?
                How can you rethink your current
                budget to afford what you need?
                       to afford what you need? 
Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                 15
Budgeting Tips
          Develop your website in planned phases
           Budget an additional 25% for overages
              g                              g
              Don’t let your development fun
               g
               get bigger than your budget
                     gg        y       g
Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                 16
What s
                    What’s it Going to Cost?
Domain Name (URL):                      $10.69/yr (GoDaddy.com)

Discovery & Strategy:                   $0 (Sweat Equity)

Design & Coding:
           d                            $ ( h
                                        $0 (choose template/CMS) or
                                                          l /     )
                                        $7,000 (avg. for design & CSS)

Church Web Mngt. System:                $20 ‐ $150/month (Industry avg.)
Site Hosting/OS CMS:                    $15/month


   Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                    17
Total Development Costs
                                      (on the high end)

                                 Yearly Cost                      One Time Expense
        Domain                   $10.68
        Design/Coding C t
        D i /C di Cost                                            $7 000
                                                                  $7,000
        Web CMC/Hosting          $1800.00 (12X150.00 month)

        2 Year Cost              $10.68 + $3600.00 + $7000.00 =   $10,610.68
        Monthly Cost                                          =   $442.11


Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                                                   18
The Hidden Costs
   Open Source applications aren’t always free
                          pp               (
  Think about additional application costs (media 
    streaming, email delivery, marketing, etc.)
  Consider your time and that of your volunteers.
           y                     y
Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle              19
Questions?




Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle                20

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Ministry 2.0: Show Me The Money | Matt Carlisle

  • 1. Welcome! Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 1
  • 2. •What is Big Heart Design? •Don’t •Don t take notes! It s all at www ministry2 org/wiki It’s www.ministry2.org/wiki •What we’ll be covering today Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 2
  • 3. The Facts of Phone Book Advertising Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 3
  • 4. Phone Book Advertising Nationally, Yellow Page ads deliver 422 calls ll ll d d l ll per year on average at a cost of $10.00 per call. $4,220.00 per year (National Average) CRM Associates /2005 Yellow Pages Metered Ad Study (National Study) Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 4
  • 5. Phone Book Advertising White Page listings deliver about 365 calls per year at a cost of $0.60 (per call). $219.00 per year (National Average) CRM Associates /2005 Yellow Pages Metered Ad Study (National Study) Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 5
  • 6. What We Know About Religion Web Surfing Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 6
  • 7. Religion Web Surfers 28 million Americans have used the Internet  g g p to get religious and spiritual information and  connect with others on their faith journeys. Pew Internet & American Life Project/2001 CyberFaith: How Americans Pursue Religion Online Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 7
  • 8. Religion Web Surfers 14% of the 28 million American Religion Surfers have  gone online to find a new church. That’s nearly 4 million people Pew Internet & American Life Project/2001 CyberFaith: How Americans Pursue Religion Online Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 8
  • 9. Let’s Compare Phone Book Ads and Websites Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 9
  • 10. Phone Book Versus Website Phone Book Web Modifications Once a year Anytime Reach Metro area of phone book Targeted global outreach Contact Options Phone call or visit Phone, Email Subs., bookmark, print page, etc. Content Limited to advertisement Unlimited in multiple formats Measures Count phone calls (?) Site analytics Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 10
  • 11. Phone Book Versus Website Yellow Page Adv. White Page Adv. Website Reach 422 calls (year/avg.) 365 calls (year/avg.) 28 mill. seekers Design Cost $2,849 one time/avg. $0 $7,000 one time/avg. Yearly Adv. Cost $4,220.00 $219.00 $3,600.00 2 Year Cost $11,289 $438 $10,610.68 (high end) Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 11
  • 12. Temple or Tool? Jesus gave us three basic commands to follow in the Great Commandments and the Great Commission: Love God   Love our neighbors   Make disciples of all people. If our buildings are not built for one of those purposes, then they (buildings) are temples to If our buildings are not built for one of those purposes then they (buildings) are temples to God, a temple God doesn’t want. Instead they need to be tools that God uses to build His Kingdom. So, before a church picks‐up a hammer, it needs to pick up the Bible. Churches should have people plans before they draw up building plans! Source: Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions / Constructing New Church Building in Alabama Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 12
  • 13. Story of Bethany Lutheran Church In 1996 what was being spent on communications: Yellow Pages Bulletin/Print Mat. Computers/Net. Website $10,000/year $50,000 $20,000 $0 Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 13
  • 14. Story of Bethany Lutheran Church How we changed the budget: Yellow Pages Bulletin/Print Mat. Computers/Net. Website $10,000/year $40,000 $20,000 $0 Kept the same $20,000 Kept the same $20,000 Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 14
  • 15. Budgeting Ask these questions: What can you afford? What can you afford? How can you rethink your current budget to afford what you need? to afford what you need?  Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 15
  • 16. Budgeting Tips Develop your website in planned phases Budget an additional 25% for overages g g Don’t let your development fun g get bigger than your budget gg y g Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 16
  • 17. What s What’s it Going to Cost? Domain Name (URL):  $10.69/yr (GoDaddy.com) Discovery & Strategy: $0 (Sweat Equity) Design & Coding: d $ ( h $0 (choose template/CMS) or l / ) $7,000 (avg. for design & CSS) Church Web Mngt. System: $20 ‐ $150/month (Industry avg.) Site Hosting/OS CMS: $15/month Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 17
  • 18. Total Development Costs (on the high end) Yearly Cost One Time Expense Domain $10.68 Design/Coding C t D i /C di Cost $7 000 $7,000 Web CMC/Hosting $1800.00 (12X150.00 month) 2 Year Cost $10.68 + $3600.00 + $7000.00 = $10,610.68 Monthly Cost = $442.11 Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 18
  • 19. The Hidden Costs Open Source applications aren’t always free pp ( Think about additional application costs (media  streaming, email delivery, marketing, etc.) Consider your time and that of your volunteers. y y Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 19
  • 20. Questions? Show Me the Money! | Matt Carlisle 20