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You Have to Say More There:
Effective Communication in a
Distributed Agile Team
Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby
Johanna: @johannarothman
Mark: @mkilby
1
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
“Agile Doesn’t Work for
Distributed Teams!”
• Truth is at least 50% of all
agile teams are distributed
• Agile approaches can help
distributed teams deliver
• Pairs
• Sustainable pace
• Fast feedback
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Source: https://www.pictofigo.com/image-detail/2650/
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© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Origin of the Book
• We discussed what we’d
seen: not much and it was
the same old, same old
• We decided to pair-write
the book
• We focused on
collaboration and role
flexibility
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© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Agile Principles Helped Start
• We started Aug 30, 2017.
• We had interruptions for
hurricanes and
international travel
• Developed a book
“frame” (similar to a
product skeleton)
4
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Interruptions
• Writing from various
locations proved typical
distributed team
challenges:
• Insufficient hours of
overlap
• Insufficient
infrastructure for audio
and video
5
Source: http://www.afcent.af.mil/News/Art/igphoto/2000618148/
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Early Timeline
• Wrote first three chapters
(simultaneously) Nov-Dec
2017
• Reordered/refactored
chapters
• Finished first five chapters
in January and February
• Sustainable pace of 1 hour
every day, anywhere from
500-1500 words
6
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Learnings Through March
• How to function as a
team (pair)
• How to collaborate
• Tools and how to use
them
7
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Continuous Integration?
• Had used Google docs as
regular text
• Tried various markdown
extensions/add-ons
• Changed to writing in
Markdown in Google
docs and then sweeping
to dropbox files for
Leanpub
8
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
When Could We Work
Together?
• Both in Eastern time zone
• Needed to find at least 30
minutes each day
• Normally mornings
• We’re fuzzy in the late
afternoons after a full
day
9
Hours of overlap != availability
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
How We Wrote (Part 1)
• Used a story map for
each chapter
• Wrote in sections
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• Why do I want to read this?

• What will I learn?

• What will I be able to do that I 

couldn’t do before?

• Where are we going next?
Map texture source: Ava Verino https://flic.kr/p/85teFF CC BY 2.0
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
How We Wrote (Part 2)
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© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Backchannel
• Text (SMS)
• Email
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© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Each Other’s Human Cues
• RCA dog: head cocked,
curious look
• Finger on the chin means
“I’m thinking”
• “When I’m tired, I’m pretty
human”
• “We’re done”
• “The writer/typist/AV
engineer/secretary didn’t
show up today”
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© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Each Other’s Writing Cues
• “You have to say more
about that”
• “Let’s unpack that”
• “Mind if I tweak that?”
• “I’m okay with that”
• “Where are you?”
• XX means fix this later
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© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Our Working Agreements
• Default to writing
• Don’t write over the other person
• If you’re typing, always go forwards
• If you navigate, think clarity, find
connections in other parts of
book or references, refactor 2nd
• Don’t try to talk and write at the
same time
• Change driver and navigator every
5-10 minutes
15
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Results and Learning
• Check in at the start of
each session
• Power of a streak
• Declaring done (and
moving on)
• Write clean
16
Photo by Nathan Dumlao on Unsplash
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Cadences,Timeboxes, Flow
• We used flow so we didn’t
have to batch our planning or
retros
• We timeboxed each day’s work
• Replanned when we needed it
• Plan a chapter with a map
• Write and review in the
small
• Review at the end: did we
fulfill the promise in the map?
17
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Writing is an Act of
Discovery
• Writing English is similar
to writing code
• Clarified and refactored
earlier work
18
Photo by Rachel Pfuetzner on Unsplash
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Other Learnings
• Pair-writing might be a
simulation for your team’s
product development
• Pair-writing is fun, produced a
better book than we could
solo
• Johanna wishes for a real
Markdown tool for pair-
writing
• Mark wishes for more
experimentation
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Photo by Sharon McCutcheon on Unsplash
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Distributed Team Learnings
• Need sufficient hours of
overlap
• Need experiments
• Flow worked better than
batching for us
• Natural communication
tools
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Acceptable Hours of Overlap
Transparency at All Levels
Culture of Continuous Improvement
Pervasive Collaboration
Assume Good Intent
Project Rhythm
Resilience through Holistic Culture
Transparency at All Levels
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Where We Are Now
• Need somewhere
between two and four
chapters to finish.
21
© 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby
Let’s Stay in Touch
• Johanna:
• Pragmatic Manager:
www.jrothman.com/
pragmaticmanager
• Please link with me on LinkedIn
• Mark:
• http://markkilby.com
• Twitter: @mkilby
• http://www.linkedin.com/in/
mkilby
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You Have To Say More There: Effective Communication in a Distributed Agile Team

  • 1. You Have to Say More There: Effective Communication in a Distributed Agile Team Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby Johanna: @johannarothman Mark: @mkilby 1
  • 2. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby “Agile Doesn’t Work for Distributed Teams!” • Truth is at least 50% of all agile teams are distributed • Agile approaches can help distributed teams deliver • Pairs • Sustainable pace • Fast feedback 2 Source: https://www.pictofigo.com/image-detail/2650/ ? ?
  • 3. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Origin of the Book • We discussed what we’d seen: not much and it was the same old, same old • We decided to pair-write the book • We focused on collaboration and role flexibility 3
  • 4. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Agile Principles Helped Start • We started Aug 30, 2017. • We had interruptions for hurricanes and international travel • Developed a book “frame” (similar to a product skeleton) 4
  • 5. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Interruptions • Writing from various locations proved typical distributed team challenges: • Insufficient hours of overlap • Insufficient infrastructure for audio and video 5 Source: http://www.afcent.af.mil/News/Art/igphoto/2000618148/
  • 6. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Early Timeline • Wrote first three chapters (simultaneously) Nov-Dec 2017 • Reordered/refactored chapters • Finished first five chapters in January and February • Sustainable pace of 1 hour every day, anywhere from 500-1500 words 6
  • 7. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Learnings Through March • How to function as a team (pair) • How to collaborate • Tools and how to use them 7
  • 8. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Continuous Integration? • Had used Google docs as regular text • Tried various markdown extensions/add-ons • Changed to writing in Markdown in Google docs and then sweeping to dropbox files for Leanpub 8
  • 9. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby When Could We Work Together? • Both in Eastern time zone • Needed to find at least 30 minutes each day • Normally mornings • We’re fuzzy in the late afternoons after a full day 9 Hours of overlap != availability
  • 10. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby How We Wrote (Part 1) • Used a story map for each chapter • Wrote in sections 10 • Why do I want to read this?
 • What will I learn?
 • What will I be able to do that I 
 couldn’t do before?
 • Where are we going next? Map texture source: Ava Verino https://flic.kr/p/85teFF CC BY 2.0
  • 11. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby How We Wrote (Part 2) 11
  • 12. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Backchannel • Text (SMS) • Email 12
  • 13. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Each Other’s Human Cues • RCA dog: head cocked, curious look • Finger on the chin means “I’m thinking” • “When I’m tired, I’m pretty human” • “We’re done” • “The writer/typist/AV engineer/secretary didn’t show up today” 13
  • 14. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Each Other’s Writing Cues • “You have to say more about that” • “Let’s unpack that” • “Mind if I tweak that?” • “I’m okay with that” • “Where are you?” • XX means fix this later 14
  • 15. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Our Working Agreements • Default to writing • Don’t write over the other person • If you’re typing, always go forwards • If you navigate, think clarity, find connections in other parts of book or references, refactor 2nd • Don’t try to talk and write at the same time • Change driver and navigator every 5-10 minutes 15
  • 16. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Results and Learning • Check in at the start of each session • Power of a streak • Declaring done (and moving on) • Write clean 16 Photo by Nathan Dumlao on Unsplash
  • 17. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Cadences,Timeboxes, Flow • We used flow so we didn’t have to batch our planning or retros • We timeboxed each day’s work • Replanned when we needed it • Plan a chapter with a map • Write and review in the small • Review at the end: did we fulfill the promise in the map? 17
  • 18. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Writing is an Act of Discovery • Writing English is similar to writing code • Clarified and refactored earlier work 18 Photo by Rachel Pfuetzner on Unsplash
  • 19. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Other Learnings • Pair-writing might be a simulation for your team’s product development • Pair-writing is fun, produced a better book than we could solo • Johanna wishes for a real Markdown tool for pair- writing • Mark wishes for more experimentation 19 Photo by Sharon McCutcheon on Unsplash
  • 20. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Distributed Team Learnings • Need sufficient hours of overlap • Need experiments • Flow worked better than batching for us • Natural communication tools 20 Acceptable Hours of Overlap Transparency at All Levels Culture of Continuous Improvement Pervasive Collaboration Assume Good Intent Project Rhythm Resilience through Holistic Culture Transparency at All Levels
  • 21. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Where We Are Now • Need somewhere between two and four chapters to finish. 21
  • 22. © 2018 Johanna Rothman and Mark Kilby@johannarothman, @mkilby Let’s Stay in Touch • Johanna: • Pragmatic Manager: www.jrothman.com/ pragmaticmanager • Please link with me on LinkedIn • Mark: • http://markkilby.com • Twitter: @mkilby • http://www.linkedin.com/in/ mkilby 22