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Saab 2000 vs Bombardier Dash 8 (Q-Series)
Whenwe jumpin comparisontable,we talkaboutmajoraspectsratherthan the typical knownaspects
whichcouldbe neglectable.Some aviationwriterswill denyordisagree withme butinmyopinionitis
the fact behindmycomparisonbaeslol.That’sinformal butalittle pickyaspect.People don’twantto
knowwhattheyalreadyknow.Theyneedsome acknowledgeable tidbitsof aviation.Whichshouldbe
interestingwhilereading.One whoisreadingmustnotbe boredfromthe phrasesthat generallywriters
use and theyknewitbefore.
It’stime for anotherXvs Y assessment.Thistime roundthough,itisn’tbetweenairbusandBoeing, but
the globe’stwomostpopularnearbyturbopropplanes,The Saab2000 and BombardierDash-8Q400.
Contraryto this,I am goingto nutshell the tidbitsof the comparisonof these tworenownedbirds.Ican
put ATR 72 inthisdiscussion(alittle bit) but Iwon’tbecause IthinkATRneeddiscussionfromanother
angle.
In general traits,Saab2000 MPA (MilitaryPropellerPlane):
 can fly499 nautical milesfartherat1,549 nautical miles
 can cruise 2,260 feethigherat31,000 feet
 Can attaina 150 knot(173 mph) highermax.cruise speedat370 knots(426 mph)
 Is 24,865 lbsheavierat50,265 lbs.
 seats33 extrapassengersat50 passengers
While BombardierQ400 (Turboprop-poweredNarrow-bodyCommercialPassengerPlane):
 is$15,000,000 extraexpensive at$27 million
 can fly427 nautical milesfartherat1,362 nautical miles
 can cruise 2,000 toesbetterat 27,000 feet
 Can reach a 99 knot(114 mph) highermax.cruise velocityat360 knots(414 mph)
 produces6,642 greaterhp at 10,142 hp
 is27,947 lbsheavierat64,500 lbs.
 seats37 greaterpassengersatseventyfourpassengers
 Has a zero.Thirteentoestallercabinat6.forty ft.
Well,generallythe questionarisesalwaysbe thatwhoiscompetinginrespectof performance.Mostly,I
foundopinionamongaviationguys thatthe traits,armamentsandperformance are all similar.In
concernof commuterturboprops,bothare capable to cruise at 400+ mph.Though,Saabis oldbird.Our
misfortunate aspect,Saabchangedintoconstructingitwhilstthe call forturbopropsturnedintolowand
neededtoforestall production;anupgradedmodel wouldbe afantasticcompetitorforthe Dash-8
Q400.
I scrolledonthe internetandfoundone manwhowas claimingthathe flownthe Q400 andhe lovedit.
Furtherhe saidthat as a prop,it isan incredible aircraft,brillianttakeoff overall performance,andnearly
as fast as an RJ.Moreover,inconcern of Saab 2000, Hissayingwasthat it lookslike anamazingbird
thoughand that I dolike Saabs,howevermyvote goestothe Q400. Sothat’s individual opinion.Butin
general aspectand generallywhatfewpeople believe isthatSaab2000 have an incredible impressionof
powerontakeoff.Theysaythat Q400 alsoseemsto have lotsof strength(howevernolongeras
apparentas the Saab 2000).
In respectof phenotype compatibilitiesandingeneral publicopinion,The Saab2000 have secure
leatherseatsandpassengersgenerallylikedthe 1-2seating.One shouldeveninshape acarry-onbag
intothe overheadpackingcontainers(whichrundownone aspectof the plane only,above the 2-
abreastseats) whichcoulddidnothealthyat the now-retiredLXEMB-145s. While Inconcernof Q400, It
containsa broadercabinwith2-2 seatingseemsmore spaciousalthoughthe seatsthemselvesare
probablyslightly narrower.Seatsonmostif notall Dash 8s don'trecline butstill seemquite
comfortable,andatleastthose operatedbyLH Regional (AugsburgAirways) seemtohave evenmore
seatpitch thanLH's own737s and A319/320/321s. Meanwhile,intermsof competition,the Saabseats
only50 versus74 onthe Q400. The Saab 2000 wouldcompete betterwithaQ300.
In furthercontrastwiththe Saab 2000, itssuperiormosteffective whenusedonrouteslessthan
800nm. It consistsof 10 more than the 2000 and isonlybarelyslowerhoweveritburnsmore gasoline
anothertime andthat one cannot imagine the usage of itabove 800nm maybe of any advantagesas
that’sjetterritory.PlusIstudysomewhere thatyouhave toby no meansflyyouraircraftkindfurther
than 10× it ispax capability. Howactual isthat? If that’sthe case,whothenneedsthe Q400s extra
varietyabilities?If anypilotalreadymountedATRson -300nm routeswithSaabson +300nm routesas
much as 600-700nm andthenuse the dashto dash over700nm routeswhichhave underneath80pax.
Howevernotunusual sense saysitmightnotbe reallyworthit.Moreover,due tothe fact one maysay
that Saab istoo small forwhatit providesandneedsanexcessive amount of gas.Infect,Its'scheap,this
isauthenticandadditionallynolongerthatgradual but the first-rate preferenceappearstobe the Q400
for shorthaul flights.Soincomparisonthe Q400 for routes;500 nm plusa few upto 800 nm. Overall
and dependingonthe gasoline charge.One cansuppose theymightbe identical.
The Q400 isgreatercostly,burnsmore fuel buthas decrease test-chargesandisfaster.Forthe reason
that youmay create verydense flightplans,itcanbe,that the q400 is a little bit more price effective
(once more, dependingatthe gasoline fee). Sowhatwe cansay at all isQ400 is clearlybetter,but
comesmuch laterandis more expensive.Itisfaster,sospendslesstime toflythe same route.Soit
burnsmore fuel perhour,but aboutthe same or evenslightlylessforthe same flight.Same deal forthe
Saab. Differencesare thatSaabhas 5 minlongerturns,andthe configsare probably48/2 forSaab, 60/3
for ATR72, 64/3 for Q400. Pluswhateverdifferencesthereare inpurchase/lease price,andavailability.
In concernsof fleettypes,One RTProfessional saidthatit'snotthat you needmore than20 ina fleet
and thenthey're worthit.If you stickto 3 or lessfleettypes,youshouldhave noproblems.If youhave 4
or more fleettypes,itgetsmore expensive the biggeryourairline gets.Youneedtohave areallygood
reasonto run more than 3 fleets.Those reasonsare normallybecauseyou're doingfleetreplacementin
a longergame,or youneedto getplanesfasterinorderto expandmore aggressively,andthe extra
growthspeed,extrarevenueoutweighsthe extracosts.
What that meanthat if youare goingto run a fleetof efficientturboprops,youshouldstartwiththe
short routes,everyplane shouldfly3-4times/daytostartwith.Butas you expand,youshouldinclude
all the 40+ pax routesout to the planesmax range, because theyare worthflying. Afterall these
debatesandstudy,one can acknowledge the factPAXLIMITSisthe real game.The biggestlessonisTO
ALWAYSCHECK THE PAXLIMITS. That’s Essential.
Conclusionmustbe that It have to be remembered,the Q400become designedasajetaircraft
substitute;nownotasa mere turbopropandusing Q400 is nota question of economy,it'sareligionlol
In informal language.While Saablivesitslife.
Copywrite Reserved
MadeehaSaeed
Aviation-Quack

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Renowned maritime patrol aircrafts

  • 1. Renowned Maritime Patrol Aircrafts-I Saab 2000 vs Bombardier Dash 8 (Q-Series) Whenwe jumpin comparisontable,we talkaboutmajoraspectsratherthan the typical knownaspects whichcouldbe neglectable.Some aviationwriterswill denyordisagree withme butinmyopinionitis the fact behindmycomparisonbaeslol.That’sinformal butalittle pickyaspect.People don’twantto knowwhattheyalreadyknow.Theyneedsome acknowledgeable tidbitsof aviation.Whichshouldbe interestingwhilereading.One whoisreadingmustnotbe boredfromthe phrasesthat generallywriters use and theyknewitbefore. It’stime for anotherXvs Y assessment.Thistime roundthough,itisn’tbetweenairbusandBoeing, but the globe’stwomostpopularnearbyturbopropplanes,The Saab2000 and BombardierDash-8Q400. Contraryto this,I am goingto nutshell the tidbitsof the comparisonof these tworenownedbirds.Ican put ATR 72 inthisdiscussion(alittle bit) but Iwon’tbecause IthinkATRneeddiscussionfromanother angle. In general traits,Saab2000 MPA (MilitaryPropellerPlane):  can fly499 nautical milesfartherat1,549 nautical miles  can cruise 2,260 feethigherat31,000 feet  Can attaina 150 knot(173 mph) highermax.cruise speedat370 knots(426 mph)  Is 24,865 lbsheavierat50,265 lbs.  seats33 extrapassengersat50 passengers While BombardierQ400 (Turboprop-poweredNarrow-bodyCommercialPassengerPlane):  is$15,000,000 extraexpensive at$27 million  can fly427 nautical milesfartherat1,362 nautical miles  can cruise 2,000 toesbetterat 27,000 feet  Can reach a 99 knot(114 mph) highermax.cruise velocityat360 knots(414 mph)  produces6,642 greaterhp at 10,142 hp  is27,947 lbsheavierat64,500 lbs.  seats37 greaterpassengersatseventyfourpassengers  Has a zero.Thirteentoestallercabinat6.forty ft. Well,generallythe questionarisesalwaysbe thatwhoiscompetinginrespectof performance.Mostly,I foundopinionamongaviationguys thatthe traits,armamentsandperformance are all similar.In concernof commuterturboprops,bothare capable to cruise at 400+ mph.Though,Saabis oldbird.Our misfortunate aspect,Saabchangedintoconstructingitwhilstthe call forturbopropsturnedintolowand neededtoforestall production;anupgradedmodel wouldbe afantasticcompetitorforthe Dash-8 Q400. I scrolledonthe internetandfoundone manwhowas claimingthathe flownthe Q400 andhe lovedit. Furtherhe saidthat as a prop,it isan incredible aircraft,brillianttakeoff overall performance,andnearly as fast as an RJ.Moreover,inconcern of Saab 2000, Hissayingwasthat it lookslike anamazingbird
  • 2. thoughand that I dolike Saabs,howevermyvote goestothe Q400. Sothat’s individual opinion.Butin general aspectand generallywhatfewpeople believe isthatSaab2000 have an incredible impressionof powerontakeoff.Theysaythat Q400 alsoseemsto have lotsof strength(howevernolongeras apparentas the Saab 2000). In respectof phenotype compatibilitiesandingeneral publicopinion,The Saab2000 have secure leatherseatsandpassengersgenerallylikedthe 1-2seating.One shouldeveninshape acarry-onbag intothe overheadpackingcontainers(whichrundownone aspectof the plane only,above the 2- abreastseats) whichcoulddidnothealthyat the now-retiredLXEMB-145s. While Inconcernof Q400, It containsa broadercabinwith2-2 seatingseemsmore spaciousalthoughthe seatsthemselvesare probablyslightly narrower.Seatsonmostif notall Dash 8s don'trecline butstill seemquite comfortable,andatleastthose operatedbyLH Regional (AugsburgAirways) seemtohave evenmore seatpitch thanLH's own737s and A319/320/321s. Meanwhile,intermsof competition,the Saabseats only50 versus74 onthe Q400. The Saab 2000 wouldcompete betterwithaQ300. In furthercontrastwiththe Saab 2000, itssuperiormosteffective whenusedonrouteslessthan 800nm. It consistsof 10 more than the 2000 and isonlybarelyslowerhoweveritburnsmore gasoline anothertime andthat one cannot imagine the usage of itabove 800nm maybe of any advantagesas that’sjetterritory.PlusIstudysomewhere thatyouhave toby no meansflyyouraircraftkindfurther than 10× it ispax capability. Howactual isthat? If that’sthe case,whothenneedsthe Q400s extra varietyabilities?If anypilotalreadymountedATRson -300nm routeswithSaabson +300nm routesas much as 600-700nm andthenuse the dashto dash over700nm routeswhichhave underneath80pax. Howevernotunusual sense saysitmightnotbe reallyworthit.Moreover,due tothe fact one maysay that Saab istoo small forwhatit providesandneedsanexcessive amount of gas.Infect,Its'scheap,this isauthenticandadditionallynolongerthatgradual but the first-rate preferenceappearstobe the Q400 for shorthaul flights.Soincomparisonthe Q400 for routes;500 nm plusa few upto 800 nm. Overall and dependingonthe gasoline charge.One cansuppose theymightbe identical. The Q400 isgreatercostly,burnsmore fuel buthas decrease test-chargesandisfaster.Forthe reason that youmay create verydense flightplans,itcanbe,that the q400 is a little bit more price effective (once more, dependingatthe gasoline fee). Sowhatwe cansay at all isQ400 is clearlybetter,but comesmuch laterandis more expensive.Itisfaster,sospendslesstime toflythe same route.Soit burnsmore fuel perhour,but aboutthe same or evenslightlylessforthe same flight.Same deal forthe Saab. Differencesare thatSaabhas 5 minlongerturns,andthe configsare probably48/2 forSaab, 60/3 for ATR72, 64/3 for Q400. Pluswhateverdifferencesthereare inpurchase/lease price,andavailability. In concernsof fleettypes,One RTProfessional saidthatit'snotthat you needmore than20 ina fleet and thenthey're worthit.If you stickto 3 or lessfleettypes,youshouldhave noproblems.If youhave 4 or more fleettypes,itgetsmore expensive the biggeryourairline gets.Youneedtohave areallygood reasonto run more than 3 fleets.Those reasonsare normallybecauseyou're doingfleetreplacementin
  • 3. a longergame,or youneedto getplanesfasterinorderto expandmore aggressively,andthe extra growthspeed,extrarevenueoutweighsthe extracosts. What that meanthat if youare goingto run a fleetof efficientturboprops,youshouldstartwiththe short routes,everyplane shouldfly3-4times/daytostartwith.Butas you expand,youshouldinclude all the 40+ pax routesout to the planesmax range, because theyare worthflying. Afterall these debatesandstudy,one can acknowledge the factPAXLIMITSisthe real game.The biggestlessonisTO ALWAYSCHECK THE PAXLIMITS. That’s Essential. Conclusionmustbe that It have to be remembered,the Q400become designedasajetaircraft substitute;nownotasa mere turbopropandusing Q400 is nota question of economy,it'sareligionlol In informal language.While Saablivesitslife. Copywrite Reserved MadeehaSaeed Aviation-Quack