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SAP HANA Cloud Platform
A Travel Report
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Agenda
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 2
1. Why did we do the HCP Journey?
2. Let’s talk about the Journey
3. Looking back … and forward
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Disclaimer
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 3
• No code snippets
• No life hacking
• Just a man and the plain truth 
Image courtesy of Stuart Miles at FreeDigitalPhotos.net
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Why did we do the HCP Journey?
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 4
• Goal: develop a (partner) product in the HCP
 Professional Business Software Development
• Getting real life experience
• Checking the maturity of new technologies
• And … curiosity: we wanted to do some development at the (b)leading edge
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
What did we want to build?
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 5
• Application using the HCP with:
 UI5 Apps available in the Fiori Launchpad
 Business Logic is implemented as SAP HANA Native Application (XS Classic)
 Using some HANA features namely: Predictive Analysis Library (PAL) and Text Analytics
• Usage scenario of HCP: PaaS (including Infrastructure, Database) + Business Service
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Let’s talk about the Journey
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 6
Image courtesy of anankkml at FreeDigitalPhotos.net
Start: Q2/2015 – End: Q2/2016
Team Size: 3
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 1: Get a Productive HCP
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 7
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 1: Get a Productive HCP – Experience
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 8
• Agility of the pricing table was high (seems to be subject of biweekly rolling updates)
• The HCP comes at different flavors concerning the available services that a delivered via bundles
 Choose wisely
• Do not forget to order the HANA instance if you need one, it is not included in the HANA Cloud Platform
… and do not expect that HCP and HANA are available at the same point in time
• Attention: No real “Cloud”-characteristics for SAP HANA (scaling etc.)
 Choose wisely
• Services that might be part of the selected package now (but were not then) have to be ordered separately
e. g. HCP Predictive Services
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 2: Administration – HCP
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 9
• HCP (without HANA)
 Rolling Updates
 No Downtime
 Larger changes can happen
 True, works as expected
• No real administrations tasks necessary
• How to get informed for the updates?
Subscribe to a mailing list (No automatic subscription) and/or to SCN area
• The stability of the offered services is okay.
 The Java runtime seems to be the most instable component (not of relevance for our project)
 HCP itself also sometimes not reachable (rarely)
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 2: Administration – SAP HANA
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 10
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 2: Administration – SAP HANA
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 11
• SAP HANA (in HCP) was a drama at the beginning (duration approx. 2 months)
 Examples:
• 50 crashes in the first week
• 100% CPU time of HANA for a few days (we did not do anything on SAP HANA)
• “The file that could not be deleted”
 You have to do the admin tasks, but have only limited access (Neo and HANA Studio)
 Support has potential for improvement
 Release cycle of patches is not clear (got better)
 SAP HANA patching means downtime
 Good News: Stabilization since SP10
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 3: Development - Tooling
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 12
• Web-based Tooling was used mostly (as recommended by SAP)
• Web IDE for UI5 Development
 No complains
• Web-based Development Workbench for HANA XS Development
 Job could be done, but not as “stable” as expected 
 Fallback on Eclipse when the web-based tooling failed (sometimes necessary)
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 3: Development – Tooling
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 13
If you discover an error, open an OSS …
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 3: Development – HANA XSC + PAL + Text Analytics
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 14
• HANA XSC Development
 As expected
 No surprises
• Text Analytics
 Powerful toolbox
 Not very comfortable to “debug”
 No tooling support (Dictionaries, CGUL rules)
• PAL (Predictive Analysis Library)
 Surprisingly buggy (e. g. k-means did not work in SP10)
 Documentation is incomplete (parameters are not documented, but used in examples)
 Unhandy to integrate into an XSC application (real persistence is needed at several spots)
 Difficult to identify the root cause of an error
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Step 3: Development – UI5
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 15
• UI5 Development in HCP
 Quite smooth (however some issues had to be faced)
• BUT: What if you want to bring together a UI5 App with the RESTful HANA XSC services?
 Propagation of User authentication is needed (Principal propagation or App2App SSO)
• At the point of development there was no documentation on that topic 
• Several months after opening an OSS this issue was solved
• Meanwhile a blog post on the topic exists:
http://scn.sap.com/community/developer-center/cloud-platform/blog/2016/03/21/principal-propagation-
between-html5-and-sap-hana-xs-on-sap-hana-cloud-platform
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Looking Back
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 16
• HCP is getting more and more “professional”
e. g. administration, usability of the cockpit, consistency
• Cloud characteristics (compared e. g. to Azure) leave room for improvement
• Pricing is definitely an obstacle
• Exclusive hosting by SAP is a limiting factor for customers
(Will it get better with the “new” HCP?)
• UI5 development is a very positive feature
But: Build chain support is missing
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Looking Back
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 17
• SAP HANA instance in HCP is not a pure pleasure
 Surprisingly unstable in several areas (has improved over the last SPs)
 Overall support was not good
 Features of SAP HANA are sometimes not easy to integrate
 Integration into HCP is somewhat “bumpy”
• Organizational topics
 Dedicated skill set is needed
 Transferring an ABAP developer to this “world” and expecting him to be as productive as before will not
work
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
Looking Forward
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 18
• Availability and Stability of XSA in HCP?
• Migration from XSC to XSA?
• “New” HCP with Cloud Foundry: Consequences for the applications?
The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report
© msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 19
Thanks for your Attention
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msg systems ag (Headquarters)
Robert-Buerkle-Str. 1, 85737 Ismaning/Munich
Germany
www.msg-systems.com
Dr. Christian Lechner
Principal IT Consultant
Christian.Lechner@msg-systems.com
https://twitter.com/lechnerc77
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SAP Inside Track Munich 2016 - SAP HANA Cloud Platform

  • 1. .consulting .solutions .partnership SAP HANA Cloud Platform A Travel Report
  • 2. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Agenda © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 2 1. Why did we do the HCP Journey? 2. Let’s talk about the Journey 3. Looking back … and forward
  • 3. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Disclaimer © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 3 • No code snippets • No life hacking • Just a man and the plain truth  Image courtesy of Stuart Miles at FreeDigitalPhotos.net
  • 4. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Why did we do the HCP Journey? © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 4 • Goal: develop a (partner) product in the HCP  Professional Business Software Development • Getting real life experience • Checking the maturity of new technologies • And … curiosity: we wanted to do some development at the (b)leading edge
  • 5. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report What did we want to build? © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 5 • Application using the HCP with:  UI5 Apps available in the Fiori Launchpad  Business Logic is implemented as SAP HANA Native Application (XS Classic)  Using some HANA features namely: Predictive Analysis Library (PAL) and Text Analytics • Usage scenario of HCP: PaaS (including Infrastructure, Database) + Business Service
  • 6. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Let’s talk about the Journey © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 6 Image courtesy of anankkml at FreeDigitalPhotos.net Start: Q2/2015 – End: Q2/2016 Team Size: 3
  • 7. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 1: Get a Productive HCP © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 7
  • 8. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 1: Get a Productive HCP – Experience © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 8 • Agility of the pricing table was high (seems to be subject of biweekly rolling updates) • The HCP comes at different flavors concerning the available services that a delivered via bundles  Choose wisely • Do not forget to order the HANA instance if you need one, it is not included in the HANA Cloud Platform … and do not expect that HCP and HANA are available at the same point in time • Attention: No real “Cloud”-characteristics for SAP HANA (scaling etc.)  Choose wisely • Services that might be part of the selected package now (but were not then) have to be ordered separately e. g. HCP Predictive Services
  • 9. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 2: Administration – HCP © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 9 • HCP (without HANA)  Rolling Updates  No Downtime  Larger changes can happen  True, works as expected • No real administrations tasks necessary • How to get informed for the updates? Subscribe to a mailing list (No automatic subscription) and/or to SCN area • The stability of the offered services is okay.  The Java runtime seems to be the most instable component (not of relevance for our project)  HCP itself also sometimes not reachable (rarely)
  • 10. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 2: Administration – SAP HANA © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 10
  • 11. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 2: Administration – SAP HANA © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 11 • SAP HANA (in HCP) was a drama at the beginning (duration approx. 2 months)  Examples: • 50 crashes in the first week • 100% CPU time of HANA for a few days (we did not do anything on SAP HANA) • “The file that could not be deleted”  You have to do the admin tasks, but have only limited access (Neo and HANA Studio)  Support has potential for improvement  Release cycle of patches is not clear (got better)  SAP HANA patching means downtime  Good News: Stabilization since SP10
  • 12. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 3: Development - Tooling © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 12 • Web-based Tooling was used mostly (as recommended by SAP) • Web IDE for UI5 Development  No complains • Web-based Development Workbench for HANA XS Development  Job could be done, but not as “stable” as expected   Fallback on Eclipse when the web-based tooling failed (sometimes necessary)
  • 13. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 3: Development – Tooling © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 13 If you discover an error, open an OSS …
  • 14. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 3: Development – HANA XSC + PAL + Text Analytics © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 14 • HANA XSC Development  As expected  No surprises • Text Analytics  Powerful toolbox  Not very comfortable to “debug”  No tooling support (Dictionaries, CGUL rules) • PAL (Predictive Analysis Library)  Surprisingly buggy (e. g. k-means did not work in SP10)  Documentation is incomplete (parameters are not documented, but used in examples)  Unhandy to integrate into an XSC application (real persistence is needed at several spots)  Difficult to identify the root cause of an error
  • 15. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Step 3: Development – UI5 © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 15 • UI5 Development in HCP  Quite smooth (however some issues had to be faced) • BUT: What if you want to bring together a UI5 App with the RESTful HANA XSC services?  Propagation of User authentication is needed (Principal propagation or App2App SSO) • At the point of development there was no documentation on that topic  • Several months after opening an OSS this issue was solved • Meanwhile a blog post on the topic exists: http://scn.sap.com/community/developer-center/cloud-platform/blog/2016/03/21/principal-propagation- between-html5-and-sap-hana-xs-on-sap-hana-cloud-platform
  • 16. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Looking Back © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 16 • HCP is getting more and more “professional” e. g. administration, usability of the cockpit, consistency • Cloud characteristics (compared e. g. to Azure) leave room for improvement • Pricing is definitely an obstacle • Exclusive hosting by SAP is a limiting factor for customers (Will it get better with the “new” HCP?) • UI5 development is a very positive feature But: Build chain support is missing
  • 17. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Looking Back © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 17 • SAP HANA instance in HCP is not a pure pleasure  Surprisingly unstable in several areas (has improved over the last SPs)  Overall support was not good  Features of SAP HANA are sometimes not easy to integrate  Integration into HCP is somewhat “bumpy” • Organizational topics  Dedicated skill set is needed  Transferring an ABAP developer to this “world” and expecting him to be as productive as before will not work
  • 18. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report Looking Forward © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 18 • Availability and Stability of XSA in HCP? • Migration from XSC to XSA? • “New” HCP with Cloud Foundry: Consequences for the applications?
  • 19. The SAP HANA Cloud Platform – A Travel Report © msg | October 2016 | SAP Inside Track Munich 19 Thanks for your Attention
  • 20. .consulting .solutions .partnership msg systems ag (Headquarters) Robert-Buerkle-Str. 1, 85737 Ismaning/Munich Germany www.msg-systems.com Dr. Christian Lechner Principal IT Consultant Christian.Lechner@msg-systems.com https://twitter.com/lechnerc77 https://people.sap.com/christian.lechner