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Reasons why your ERP Fixed Assets Module
        might not work for tax…
In theory, using your ERP or financial
package fixed asset subsystem for tax
      should be your best option.

I know. They’ve told you it will work for
                 tax.


               But will it?
OK…Here are the TOP 10 reasons
why your ERP fixed assets module might not work for tax!




         (as shared by your tax colleagues out there)
Think about it…they were built for
Accounting and Finance. NOT for tax.

                   In fact, ERP vendors
                   do not have tax
                   technical folks on staff.

                   All tax must be coded
                   in by consultants.
There are and will continue to be tax
        law changes every year…
This will require coding
changes each year.

ERP is a mission critical
application, IT usually
makes tax wait to do
updates.
Tax needs an unlimited amount of
 different book calculations and special
            calculation needs
• Federal Tax (w/bonus
  depreciation or without)
• AMT
• ACE
• E&P
• State Books
• Canadian and other Foreign
  Books
• Different calendars (52/53
  wk. years, short yr.)
• Different basis across books
Tax doesn’t always have access to
  the ERP to modify asset details
                  • May get audited and
                    need to adjust basis
                  • May need different
                    GAAP to Tax placed in
                    service dates
                  • Current and prior year
                    adjustments
                  • Changes to tax
                    classification
                  • Modify life
Tax sometimes needs to run assets as if
    they were calculated based on
   different rules as of their placed in
               service date

                                Ensure proper
“Life to date                   historical year
calculations”                   by year tax
                                treatment
Tax needs to plan!

                                       •Take bonus/
  “What if”                             don’t take
 scenarios                              bonus…
                                       •Retirements
• Acquisitions                         •Splits
• Mergers                              •Cost
• Divestitures                          Segregation
                                       •481
                                        Adjustments
Tax has to report single, consolidated,
  and subconsolidations as well as by
       business unit, location, etc.

Need to be able
to report easily
with any kind of
 structure and
    grouping
Tax must see all asset details and
   history…and report on prior years!

 Most ERP’s roll
 forward year to
  year and prior
   depreciation
expense becomes
  accumulated
Tax needs to reconcile from book to tax!
            Ease is essential.

            Not offline or by
             using Excel

            One click
             reconciliation
             reporting
Tax needs forms and many reports!
Easy, quick and able to export to Excel.

   Reconciliation
   Roll forward
   Transactions
   Depreciation
   Tax Reports
   State Reports
   Bonus Depreciation Reports
   Audit Reports
   And on…and on…and on…
Don’t think you don’t have an alternative solution!

                     • Take a serious look at your options
                     • Don’t just take people’s word for it
                     • Investigate further… Do your
                        homework!
                     • Other tax professionals will share their
                        experiences!
                     • Don’t “sell” the tax department short.
                     • There are third party solutions that
                        can make your life sooo much easier!
Thank you for reading!
For more information, contact me at:

              Kelley Lear
  Kelley.Lear@redmoonsolutions.com
             941-379-7108


     www.redmoonsolutions.com
     blog.redmoonsolutions.com
     www.twitter.com/redmoonsolution

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Red moon top 10 reasons why erp not for tax

  • 1. Reasons why your ERP Fixed Assets Module might not work for tax…
  • 2. In theory, using your ERP or financial package fixed asset subsystem for tax should be your best option. I know. They’ve told you it will work for tax. But will it?
  • 3. OK…Here are the TOP 10 reasons why your ERP fixed assets module might not work for tax! (as shared by your tax colleagues out there)
  • 4. Think about it…they were built for Accounting and Finance. NOT for tax. In fact, ERP vendors do not have tax technical folks on staff. All tax must be coded in by consultants.
  • 5. There are and will continue to be tax law changes every year… This will require coding changes each year. ERP is a mission critical application, IT usually makes tax wait to do updates.
  • 6. Tax needs an unlimited amount of different book calculations and special calculation needs • Federal Tax (w/bonus depreciation or without) • AMT • ACE • E&P • State Books • Canadian and other Foreign Books • Different calendars (52/53 wk. years, short yr.) • Different basis across books
  • 7. Tax doesn’t always have access to the ERP to modify asset details • May get audited and need to adjust basis • May need different GAAP to Tax placed in service dates • Current and prior year adjustments • Changes to tax classification • Modify life
  • 8. Tax sometimes needs to run assets as if they were calculated based on different rules as of their placed in service date Ensure proper “Life to date historical year calculations” by year tax treatment
  • 9. Tax needs to plan! •Take bonus/ “What if” don’t take scenarios bonus… •Retirements • Acquisitions •Splits • Mergers •Cost • Divestitures Segregation •481 Adjustments
  • 10. Tax has to report single, consolidated, and subconsolidations as well as by business unit, location, etc. Need to be able to report easily with any kind of structure and grouping
  • 11. Tax must see all asset details and history…and report on prior years! Most ERP’s roll forward year to year and prior depreciation expense becomes accumulated
  • 12. Tax needs to reconcile from book to tax! Ease is essential.  Not offline or by using Excel  One click reconciliation reporting
  • 13. Tax needs forms and many reports! Easy, quick and able to export to Excel.  Reconciliation  Roll forward  Transactions  Depreciation  Tax Reports  State Reports  Bonus Depreciation Reports  Audit Reports  And on…and on…and on…
  • 14. Don’t think you don’t have an alternative solution! • Take a serious look at your options • Don’t just take people’s word for it • Investigate further… Do your homework! • Other tax professionals will share their experiences! • Don’t “sell” the tax department short. • There are third party solutions that can make your life sooo much easier!
  • 15. Thank you for reading! For more information, contact me at: Kelley Lear Kelley.Lear@redmoonsolutions.com 941-379-7108 www.redmoonsolutions.com blog.redmoonsolutions.com www.twitter.com/redmoonsolution