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Riots, gangs and myth making
1. Johanne Miller, PhD Student UWS
Supervised by: Professor Chris Holligan,
Professor Ross Deuchar & Paula Cowan
2. Cameron UK May Look to US for Gang
Advice SaveYouTube com.mpg You tube link
3. David Cameron highlighted several points about
gangs in Britain. He states they are:
Hierarchical
Lead criminal careers
Have leadership
Are an organised entity
Are damaging to society
Are inherently criminal
Outside help required
Eurogang Definition
A youth gang or troublesome youth
group, is an durable street oriented
youth group whose involvement in
illegal activity is part of their group
identity.
4. Bill Braxton, Boston Initiative
Community Initiative to Reduce Violence (CIRV) model
being replicated (Home Office 2011)
Theresa May: We will identify 30 areas for which £10 million
from the Home Office will be available next year... I can
confirm that we were making a further £10 million available
next year for the early intervention fund... The Government
have also introduced gang injunctions, which enable local
authorities and the police to tackle over-18s involved in gang-
related violence by banning them from meeting other gang
members, wearing gang colours, hanging around in certain
locations and owning dangerous dogs.We are looking to
extend that tool to 14 to 17-year-olds. (Hansard 2011)
Human Right: Article 11: Association
Human Right: Article 14: Discrimination
5. Social commentators blamed street based, youth
gangs for riots
Gang Talk & Gang Talkers (Hallsworth & Young 2004)
Policies released in aftermath of riots to suppress the
„new social problem‟ of gangs
Home Office (2011) pledge £12 million to suppress
gangs in 2012
Ignorance of other factors: No race / bread riots
6. Area % Population Court % Population Court
of City(Census Defendants of City(Census Defendants
2001) (Ministry of Justice 2001) (Ministry of Justice
2011) 2011)
London 71% White 33% White 28.9% BME 77% BME
West 76.5% White 41% White 23.5% BME 69%BME
Midlands
Nottingham 81.6% White 37%White 18.4% BME 63%BME
Manchester 91% White 74%White 9% BME 26%BME
Age Range of defendants: 51% 10-20 yrs
49% 20- 50 yrs
The objects of desire, whose absence is most violently resented, are
It was concluded gangs are not
nowadays many and varied – and their numbers, as well as the temptation
to have them, grow by the day. And so grows the wrath, humiliation, spite
and grudge aroused by not having them – as well as the urge to destroy
behind the riots
what you can‟t have. Looting shops and setting them on fire derive from the
(Ministry of Justice 2011)
same impulsion and gratify the same longing (Bauman 2011)
7. Each man, finally, outside of his professional activity, carries on some
form of intellectual activity, that is he is a ‘philosopher’, an artist, a man
of taste, he participates in a particular conception of the world, has a
conscious line of moral conduct, and therefore contributes to sustain a
conception of the world or to modify it, that is to bring into being new
modes of thought. Gramsci (1973:9)
Lackof empirical evidence to support a
definition of what a gang is in Britain (Bennet &
Holloway 2004)
Different
cities produce different types of
gangs (Pitts 2008) Lambeth (Pitts 2007)
West & East Coast Scotland (Bannister et al
2010)
8. Misrepresentation of the problem
Self defining surveys used as main indicator of
gang prevalence in Scotland and England
Young people have a different understanding of
the concept resulting in misrepresentation of the
problem
Misinformed policies and interventions
Labelling practices associated with gang name
The least restrictive definition includes all youth who claim gang membership at
some point in time. The most restrictive definition includes only those youth who
are current core gang members who indicate that their gang has some degree of
organizational structure and whose members are involved in illegal activities.
(Esbensen, Winfree, He, & Taylor 2001:105)
9. 1. Create a definition of a Glasgow gang.
2. 2. Explore Glasgow gang culture
3. 3. Place the concept of gangs back within the context of youth studies
Participants
Area Coverage 70
60
50
South North 40
West 27%
37% 30
20
East 10
16% 0
West Survey Gang Practitioners nu of Gangs
South 14% Particpants Member worked with
East Interviews
6%
Nu worked with
Age Range of Participants: 10-22. Core Members 70% Fringe Members 30%
Practitioner Sample consists of: Education, Police Force, Gangs Task
Force, CIRV, Youth Workers
10. Q43: Do you think a gang needs to be criminal to be called a
gang? 71.9% answered NO!
Eurogang Definition: A youth gang or troublesome youth group, is an durable street oriented
youth group whose involvement in illegal activity is part of their group identity.
Eurogang Core Gang % Yes % No Age Age Range Age Range Years Years Years Years
Descriptors Range 16-19 19-25 0-1 1-10 11-20 20+
12-15
Do you have group of 95% 5%
friends you spend time
with
Age Group 5.8% 62.2% 27%
Time Spent in Public 85.7% 14.3%
Places
How long has group 9.1% 18.2% 12.1% 60.6%
Existed
Is doing illegal things 83.3% 16.7%
okay with your group
Does your group do 84.4% 13.3%
illegal things together
Do you consider your 89.2% 10.8%
group to be a gang?
Survey says yes: We say no
11. When supplemented with interviews there is an extra
level of analysis
Q43: Do you think a gang needs to be criminal to be
called a gang? 71.9% answered NO
Removal of criminal aspect means the gang label can
be applied to most youth groups
When asked what criminal behaviour was:
Drinking Hangin aboot on the street Smokin weed
Fightin Gettin chases Gettin MWI
Bein rowdy in the street takin eccy
12. A wee bit.
Responses to Survey Q43:
Yes? In what way?
Do you think a gang needs to be
I don‟t know.
criminal to be called a gang?
What would you think
criminal behaviour is?
. 71.9% answered NO
Smashing windows, fighting,
shouting and that.
No, not really.
Why?
Because you can still be called a
No, not really.
gang and be a non. ...
And not do criminal things?
Aye No.
What would you call criminal No? How come?
behaviour? I don‟t know. You could just
Fighting and I don‟t know be a bunch of pals.
13. They sabre rattle at each other for half an hour. That‟s a recreation. You
hear about that a lot. They do it for the buzz. They do it for that. That, I
think, from my poorly educated perspective, reinforces the fact it‟s
recreational. “How do I get my kicks?” That‟s where they get them from.
It‟s certainly not about criminality. (CIRV)
Maybe some of the gangs in America, it‟s more related to organised crime
gangs than it is maybe here. But the gangs we‟ve have at the level that
we‟re talking about isn‟t merely the organised crime level. So maybe the
ones in America are more higher level than the ones here. (Community
Police)
It‟s not the same here as it is other places. I mean, it‟s young boys who
have a belief they need to protect their scheme. Their not involved in
drug rackets or organised crime or anything like that. Do not get me
wrong the violence associated with it is horrific but it‟s not organised
crime, there‟s no any careers or money in it for them. The Jack‟s, Tigers
(Criminal Families) n that are the ones that run these things in Glasgow.
(Youth worker)
14. Leaders? (laughter) They dinnnae have leaders. Ye‟ll get the mair mental
yans that will wanna start fights cause they‟re ragin bout some‟ing bad in
their lives. The other wans will go along wae it caus they feel bad for them
or their scared ae gettin a kickin but that‟s as far as it goes. Maybe
sometimes wans mair involved n has like mair street cred so they will
listen tae him mair but thats just group dynamics innit. It‟s no the leader ae
the gang (laughter). (Youth Worker)
I don‟t think they have leaders in terms of the American gangs;
they‟ve got a structure almost military – Lieutenants and Generals,
they‟ve all got that. I don‟t think there‟s the same kind of leadership.
As I say, there‟ll be one or two key members, (CIRV Education
Worker)
15. Responses Percentage Actual Responses
Group of Friends hanging about 44.4% Group ae pals. Group of friends
together hanging about together. A Group of
Friends. Group of people that hang
about together. The troopz. The
troops doing what we do best. Group
ae pals. Neds, Wino hang about in a
team.
Group of people protecting 25.2% Young boys that protect their scheme.
territory A group of people that protect their
territory. Group of people that hang
about a territory.
A group of people who want to 25.2% Bunch of boys trying to make a name
cause trouble or fight for themselves. A group hanging
around together maybe doing wrong
things. Large group of thugz
Your Life & protection 4.6% Your life. Pals, back up.
This has important consequences: 89.2% claim gang membership. Gang
membership to the majority is a group of friends hanging around
together. THEY DO NOT need to be involved in group criminal behaviour.
16. N17: Aye, scheme name
I – What do you think a gang
I: Whats that based on? is? Large group of males
N17: Dont know, its always been like that large group of...
I: Has it always been like that yeah? P5 – Young boys that protect
N17: Aye yer scheme [laughs]
P1 – Is that what you think it
I: And you’s just adopted it? is?
N17: Aye, its always been MYT P3 – Obviously (survey)this is
I: And does your mum and that, older brothers and gangs in American and
say, cousins, do they still say they’re Mintown there are nae schemes in
America (Alan)
N17: Front end and back end, the whole scheme is MYT
I: The full scheme? It just stays? That never just changes
N17: Naw (John)
.
Why do they start? D’ya know wit a mean? Wit are they? wit are gangs?
Dunno, it happens all the time like. When yer a wee guy ye‟ll see the older wans fae
you drinking havin a good time n aw that. N you hink you wana dae that so you n aw
your pals become the new generation. Then it just keeps going. That‟s the way every
wee guy in Glasgae probably thinks noo. (Russell)
.
Just people trying to… It‟s basically fighting – that‟s all it is. Just a group
of boys, just jumping about, drinking, and if other people come in to
their scheme, they don‟t let them in, and they‟ll try to fight, normally, to
get them out.
17. Structure
Ethnicity 96% White 4% BME
Gender 88% Male 12% Female
Age Range:13-22 years old
Members: Between 10-59
Existed :11-20 years 10.5%
More than 20 years 57.9%
Definition
A regenerating group of young (typically) men aged 10-25.
The groups originate in low income, urbanised areas. They
are bound by territory and engage in violent offending
with other territorial groups. The territory will have a name
and symbol attached to it.
18. LAMBETH GANGS WALTHAM FOREST
Ethnicity: Predominantly Ethnicity: Predominantly
BME composition made up of BME
Gender: Unknown Gender Mostly Male
Average Age: 10-25 Average Age: 12-25
Length: Unknown Length: Less than 10 years
Amount: 45 Amount: 11 gangs (London street
gangs,com)
Gangs linked with criminal
Most gangs linked with the
organisations
(Lambeth Chairs Report 2008 & Pitts 2007) criminal drug market
(Pitts 2007)
19. What is happening to our young people?
They disrespect their elders, they disobey
their parents.
They ignore the law.
They riot in the streets inflamed with wild
notions. Their morals are decaying.
What is to become of them?
(Plato, 4th Century BC)
20. Bannister, J, Pickering, J Batchelor, S, Burman, M Kintrea, K, McVie, S. (2010)
Troublesome Youth Groups, Gangs and Knife Crime in Scotland.
Bennett, T and Holloway, K. Gang Membership, Drugs and Crime in the UK,”
British Journal of Criminology 44, no. 3 (2004): p.317 Report for The Scottish
Government
Chairs report (2008) London Borough of Lambeth Gangs Executive
Commission Report [Online Resource] Available from:
Esbensen, F. Winfree, Jr, T. He, N. Taylor, J (2001) Youth Gangs and Definitional
Issues: When Is a Gang a Gang, and Why Does It Matter? Crime &
Delinquency 47:1
Gramsci, A (1973) Selections from the Prison Notebooks (ed & trans. Hoare, Q
and Nowell Smith, G) London. Laurence & Wishart
Hallsworth S. & Young T. (2004) Getting Real About Gangs, Criminal Justice
matters 55 12-13
Home Office (2011) Ending Gang and Youth Violence: A Cross Government
Report including further evidence and good practice case studies. UK
Stationary Office Ltd
Ministry of Justice (2011)
Pitts, J. (2007). Reluctant gangsters: youth gangs in Waltham Forest. University of
Bedfordshire.
Pitts, J (2007) Young & Safe in Lambeth The Deliberations of the Executive
Commission on Young People & Violent Crime
Hinweis der Redaktion
When the riots kicked off last year I remember I was carrying out research with young gang members in Glasgow and I have very distinct memories of requiring feeling a sense of urgency and displaced anger from the yp that I was talking to not in terms of the riots but in terms of their position within society. These images and this song for me will always be a snapshot memory of the riots, the urgency and the anger tha the young people I was talking to felt and as many great sociologists have stated all we can do is create snapshots that represent the reality we were investigating . These are the images and music that recreate that snapshot for me.
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Outside help is required to sort the growing social problem in Britain A growing problem that we cannot contain ourselves. The state and social commnetators that are helping build a hegemonic concept of gangs in Britain that are feckless, violent and a danger to main stream society.
CIRV 2 year model cost £5million and model changed after 2 years£10 million allocated to England & WalesArticle 11 protects the right to freedom of assembly and association, including the right to form trade unions, subject to certain restrictions that are "in accordance with law" and "necessary in a democratic society“the article specifically prohibits discrimination based on "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status", the last of these allows the court to extend to Article 14 protection to other grounds not specifically mentioned such as has been done regarding discrimination based on a person's sexual orientationI have not included freedom of movement as although we have signed for it we have not ratified this this as British nationals in other countries would then be subject to the same restrictions and laws as immigrants. I have also not included article 10 freedom of expression as it is restricted in prevention of disorder or crime.
These images and discourses associated with youth gangs are becoming a hegemonic concept in the social and intellectual world. The are permeating a fear of the other. Which have labelling consequences for those involved in them.
the MoJ analysis stresses the poor educational and socio-economic background of those arrested in the riots. "It is clear that compared to population averages, those brought before the courts were more likely to be in receipt of free school meals or benefits, were more likely to have had special educational needs and be absent from school, and are more likely to have some form of criminal history. This pattern held across all areas looked at," it says.The riots were sparked by Mark Duggan being killed but they are not a one off. The riots were not just about looting and Cameron cannot state that race was not a factor in the riots.Historically London has rioted due to civil unrest, bread and race riots have been amongst them. In the more peaceful student riots in 2010 London rioting was followed in Manchester and Cambridge the following day. the last recorded riot in Scotland was in 1915 was London riots was followed by West Midlands (Birmingham) Manchester (Salford) Nottingham riots but this is rooted in history. In London more than any where else it appears to be more of a race riot.
These negative discourses and images that our current government are creating concerning young people in gangs are becoming common place as Owens book Chavs screams in bold capital letters are as Lister highlights creating a fear of the other and this othering is beginning to affect policies and discourses concerning working class young people.At present we are unable to empirically say what a gang in Britain is. Most of our knowledge concenring gangs comes form North America and are based on west side story images. An example of how these discourses are permeating our society can be seen in the definitions that are being used such as that put forward by the Eurogang described earlier. The studies that have commenced in Britain concerning gangs have been scattered yet the one constant that is emerging is how each city produces different types of gangs. A belief that there should be a standardised version of youth gangs in Britain and North America is one of the central issues in the hegemonic concept that is emerging concerning gangs in Britain That alongside a belief that criminality is the core component of gangs. The fear that membership increases delinquency and criminality. Yet as Jack Katz highlights this has never been empirically proven. The main method of to predict the prevalence in gangs in Britain are that of surveys that use defining features such as that of the Eurogang or self defining surveys. But what if young people have different understandings of gangs how can we accurately predict if we haven't yet yested the reliability of these instruments, What are the implications of getting it wrong?
12 million allocated to fix our so called gang problem another 10 million next year so all this fear of gangs yet we have the lowered rates of youth crime
Core Members: violent persistent offenders majority of them on gang intervention programmes. 30% Fringe members self defining as a gang member may have some minor offences. Identified through involvement by workers on employment courses, youth centres and education.
An important aspect of this is that young people do not think a gang needs to criminal to be called a gang. This would mean that self defining surveys are over representing the problem as 69% of the group identified themselves as gang members.When asking the young people what they deem to be criminal activity the majority of their answers were related to anti social behaviour which is also attributed to non gang youths such as drinking and hanging about the streets. Removing the criminal element means most youth groups would fit the Eurogang restrictors. It is too inclusive a tool to be used to measure the prevalence of gangs in Glasgow. SO then what variables can be used to define a Glasgow gang?
In Answer to the question do you think you need to be criminal to be called a gang? These were the responses
Using the survey to estimate gang prevalence based on the Eurogangs definiton would at first seem as if these groups fitted the definiton. This would mean that just under 90% of my sample met the Eurogang variables. But when you examine the restrictors they would fit most youth groups in society.Utilising further analysis allowed a clearer picture of the groups that re present in Glasgow.
Ts really important to note that its a group of friends and what you are asking young people to give up is friendship and loyalty , like a soldier in the war they wont leave anyone behind and can be assured that they have each others back.
Ethnicity like many other gangs across Britain is representative of the demographics of the area in which they originate? Only single ethnic gang grouping is Scottish White.Members: depending on what day of the week 37.9% 10-20 & 37.9% 20-50 members
Waltham Forest Gangs:Ethnicity is reflective of the ethnic make up of the area. Therefore in Waltham Forest Pitts reports Gangs are estate-based and their ethnic make-up reflects the ethnic make-up of their estates. Average Age is the majority of gang members but in Waltham Forest Pitts estimate but the youngest are reported to be 10 and oldest members reported are 40. This is one of the biggest differences in all Pitts talk concerning gangs there is an economic interest in it for them, this is the biggest difference Glasgow gangs are predominantly friendship grouping who take part in recreational violence some call it the buzz and say it is because they are bored but I think its t know they are alive to feel something other than a numbness because you are forgotten about.Pitts reports that most gangs in London have an organisational structure which links them to the drug economy and many yp involved must commit criminal acts associated with this structure.