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Comparing the amount and quality of information
from different sequencing strategies:
A case study with amniotes
Jeremy M. Brown and Robert C. Thomson
@jembrown www.phyleauxgenetics.org
Phylogenomics
Phylogenomic Data
= Simple Patterns of Evolution
= Complicated Patterns of Evolution
Missing Data
Phylogenomic Data
= Reliable Information
= Unreliable Information
= More Information
= Less Information
The Ideal
. . . . .
. . . . .
One Gene Whole Genome
Parameter ValueParameter Value
Likelihood
Likelihood
llustration of how large data sets allow an arbitrarily great reduction in the variance of an estimate without making it an
airs of DNA sequences with an evolutionary distance of 0.7 substitutions per site were generated according to a GTR (Lana
and Phylogenomics · doi:10.1093/molbev/msr202 M
Kumar et al. 2012. Mol. Biol. Evol.
The Worst Case
n illustration of how large data sets allow an arbitrarily great reduction in the variance of an estimate without making it a
Pairs of DNA sequences with an evolutionary distance of 0.7 substitutions per site were generated according to a GTR (Lana
vare 1986) of evolution using SeqGen (Rambaut and Grassly 1997). The evolutionary distance between simulated sequences w
s and Phylogenomics · doi:10.1093/molbev/msr202 M
Kumar et al. 2012. Mol. Biol. Evol.
Big Data = Strong Support
Caiman
Podarcis
Python
Phrynops
Gallus
Ornithorhynchus
Monodelphis
Taeniopygia
Alligator
Emys
Anolis
Caretta
Chelonoidis
Homo
Xenopus
Protopterus
1 1
1
1
1
1
1
0.99
1
1
1
1
0.1 substitution / site
BPML = -
BPPARTG = -
BPPARTC = 100
PPBAY = -
PPPARTC = 1.0
PPCAT = 1.0
tes as inferred from analyses of the 248-gene dataset. (a) Bayesian consensus topology
62,342 sites) under the CAT-GTR + G4 mixture model. (b) Bayesian consensus topology
e dataset (187,026 sites) under the CAT-GTR + G4 mixture model. The nodal values indicate
ical support values obtained with different methods, models and data partitions detailed in
saurs. Note the relative incongruence between the two trees concerning the position of
except for Chelonoidis from Y. Chiari. Please note also that the taxonomy of Galapagos turtles
me for the Chelonoidis specimen included here might be Chelonoidis sp.
enetic position of turtles based on the various reconstruction methods,
Amino acids Nucleotides
All positions All positions Positions 1 + 2 Positions 3
62,342 187,026 124,684 62,342
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and relevant to resolving ancient phylogenetic enig
throughout the tree of life [28]. This approach to h
throughput phylogenomics—based on thousand
loci—is likely to fundamentally change the way
systematists gather and analyse data.
(a) Additional information
We provide all data and links to software via Dryad r
sitory (doi:10.5061/dryad.75nv22qj) and GenB
(JQ868813–JQ885411).
We thank R. Nilsen, K. Jones, M. Harvey, R. Nussb
G. Schneider, D. Ray, D. Peterson, C. Moran, L. M
S. Isberg, C. Mancuso, S. Herke, two anonymous revie
and the LSU Genomic Facility. National Science Found
grants DEB-1119734, DEB-0841729 and DEB-0956
and an Amazon Web Services Education Grant supp
this study. N.G.C., B.C.F., J.E.M. and T.C.G. designed
study; N.G.C. and B.C.F. performed phylogenetic ana
B.C.F. created datasets; J.E.M. performed laboratory w
all authors helped write the manuscript.
1 Lee, M. S. Y., Reeder, T. W., Slowinski, J. B. & Law
R. 2004 Resolving reptile relationships. In Assem
the tree of life (eds J. Cracraft & M. J. Donog
pp. 451–467. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press
2 Lee, M. 1997 Reptile relationships turn turtle. N
389, 245–246. (doi:10.1038/38422)
3 Rieppel, O. 1999 Turtle origins. Science 283, 945–
(doi:10.1126/science.283.5404.945)
4 Janke, A., Erpenbeck, D., Nilsson, M. & Aranason
2001 The mitochondrial genomes of the iguana (Ig
iguana) and the caiman (Caiman crocodylus): implica
for amniote phylogeny. Proc. R. Soc. Lond. B 268, 6
631. (doi:10.1098/rspb.2000.1402)
5 Hedges, S. & Poling, L. 1999 A molecular phyloge
reptiles. Science 283, 998–1001. (doi:10.1126/sci
283.5404.998)
6 Rest, J. S., Ast, J. C., Austin, C. C., Waddell,
(a)
(b)
snake
lizard
turtles
tuatara
crocodilians
birds
human
0.03 substitutions/site
snake
lizard
tuatara
side-necked turtle
painted turtle
American alligator
saltwater crocodile
zebra finch
chicken
human
1.0/100
1.0/100
1.0/100
1.0/100
1.0/100
1.0/100
1.0/100
Pantherophis guttata
Anolis carolinensis
Sphenodon tuatara
Pelomedusa subrufa
Chrysemys picta
Alligator mississippiensis
Crocodylus porosus
Taeniopygia guttata
Gallus gallus
Homo sapiens
UCEs place turtles sister to archosaurs N. G. Crawford et al.
on November 6, 2012rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.orgDownloaded from
Additional file 1, Tables S7, S8), mirroring previous work
showing up-regulated gene expression in response to
hypoxia in other vertebrate tissues, including many
gene exp
(see Add
S12), bu
Figure 2 A revised phylogeny of major amniote lineages and their rates of m
relationships of the eight primary amniote lineages, and their rates of molecular evol
relationship of turtle and archosaurs (allligator plus birds). The numbers at nodes den
(b) The histogram shows the relative rate of substitution inferred for each lineage un
Methods, Phylogeny and substitution rate).
Bradley Shaffer et al. Genome Biology 2013, 14:R28
http://genomebiology.com/2013/14/3/R28
Crawford et al. (2012)
Biology Letters 8:783
Chiari et al. (2012)
BMC Biology 10:65
Shaffer et al. (2013)
Genome Biology 14:R28
@jembrown
Variation in Genomic Sampling
@jembrown
Basic Unanswered Questions
• How much do phylogenomic datasets vary
in information content?
• How does the amount and quality of
information vary across loci?
@jembrown
6 Amniote Datasets
• Chiari et al. (2012)
• 248 transcriptomic loci
• 12 taxa
• Crawford et al. (2012)
• 1,145 UCEs
• 10 taxa
• Fong et al. (2012)
• 75 Sanger-sequenced loci
• 129 taxa
• Lu et al. (2013)
• 1,638 transriptomic and genomic loci
• 11 taxa
Western Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta).
Photo by Brad Shaffer.
• Shaffer et al. (2013)
• 1,955 genomic loci
• 8 taxa
• Wang et al. (2013)
• 1,113 genomic loci
• 12 taxa
@jembrown
Amniote Phylogeny
Zebra Finch
Crocodile
Platypus
Python
Fish
Frog
Anole
Chicken
Opossum
Alligator
Human
Aves
Crocodilia
Archosauria
Squamata
Mammalia
Diapsida
Amniota
Painted Turtle
Green Sea TurtleTestudines
@jembrown
Bayes Factors
P(M ) ! P( |M ) P(M | )
P(M ) ! P( |M ) P(M | )
="
1"
2" 2" 2"
1" 1"
Prior
Odds
Posterior
Odds
Bayes
Factor
2ln(BF) < -10 = Strong Support for Model 2
2ln(BF) > 10 = Strong Support for Model 1
@jembrown
Bipartition Bayes Factors
@jembrown
A
B
C
E
D
Marginal likelihood
with AB | CDE
Bayes Factor
Marginal likelihood
without AB | CDE
Bayes Factors are Unbounded
-200 0 200 400
0.00.20.40.60.81.0
2ln(BF)
PosteriorProbability
Mammal
Monophyly
(Wang et al.)
37% points
@jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
Support for Bird Monophyly
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
0102030
Chiari et al.
(Transcripts)
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
0100200300400
Crawford et al.
(UCEs)
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
051015
Fong et al.
(Sanger)
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
0100200300400500600
Lu et al.
(Transcripts/Genomes)
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
050100150
Shaffer et al.
(Genomes)
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
01020304050
Wang et al.
(Genomes)
@jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
Chiari Fong Wang
-1000100
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100
Amniota Archosauria
2ln(BF)
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
05001000
Aves
Chiari Crawford Fong Wang
-4000400800
Crocodilians
Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100300500
Mammalia
Crawford Lu
-100-50050
Lepidosauria
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer
-4000400
Squamata
Chiari Fong Lu Wang
-1000-500050010001500
-100100
Testudines
0@jembrown
Brown and Thomson, In Prep
Chiari Fong Wang
-1000100
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100
Amniota Archosauria
2ln(BF)
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
05001000
Aves
Chiari Crawford Fong Wang
-4000400800
Crocodilians
Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100300500
Mammalia
Crawford Lu
-100-50050
Lepidosauria
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer
-4000400
Squamata
Chiari Fong Lu Wang
-1000-500050010001500
-100100
Testudines
0
Histograms on
previous slide
@jembrown
Brown and Thomson, In Prep
Chiari Fong Wang
-1000100
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100
Amniota Archosauria
2ln(BF)
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
05001000
Aves
Chiari Crawford Fong Wang
-4000400800
Crocodilians
Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100300500
Mammalia
Crawford Lu
-100-50050
Lepidosauria
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer
-4000400
Squamata
Chiari Fong Lu Wang
-1000-500050010001500
-100100
Testudines
0
Median
support values
don’t change
that much.
@jembrown
Brown and Thomson, In Prep
Chiari Fong Wang
-1000100
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100
Amniota Archosauria
2ln(BF)
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
05001000
Aves
Chiari Crawford Fong Wang
-4000400800
Crocodilians
Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100300500
Mammalia
Crawford Lu
-100-50050
Lepidosauria
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer
-4000400
Squamata
Chiari Fong Lu Wang
-1000-500050010001500
-100100
Testudines
0
“Genomic” data
have much wider
variance - often
both for and
AGAINST known
relationships
@jembrown
Brown and Thomson, In Prep
Chiari Fong Wang
-1000100
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100
Amniota Archosauria
2ln(BF)
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
05001000
Aves
Chiari Crawford Fong Wang
-4000400800
Crocodilians
Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang
-1000100300500
Mammalia
Crawford Lu
-100-50050
Lepidosauria
Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer
-4000400
Squamata
Chiari Fong Lu Wang
-1000-500050010001500
-100100
Testudines
0
A “minimum
bound” on the
level of
systematic error
(conservative).
Amniotes likely a
better-case
scenario.
@jembrown
Brown and Thomson, In Prep
How much information do we
have about turtle placement?
How much information do we
have about turtle placement?
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
01020304050
Wang et al.
(Genomes)
2ln(BF) - Crocodilians MonophyleticFrequency
0 500 1000 1500
0102030405060
2ln(BF) - Mammals Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
050100150
2ln(BF) - Turtles Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
020406080100120140
How much information do we
have about turtle placement?
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
01020304050
Wang et al.
(Genomes)
2ln(BF) - Crocodilians MonophyleticFrequency
0 500 1000 1500
0102030405060
2ln(BF) - Mammals Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
050100150
2ln(BF) - Turtles Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
020406080100120140
-500 0 500 1000 1500
050010001500
2ln(BF)
Frequency
Amniotes
Archosaurs
Birds
Crocodilians
Diapsids
Lepidosaurs
Mammals
How much information do we
have about turtle placement?
2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
01020304050
Wang et al.
(Genomes)
2ln(BF) - Crocodilians MonophyleticFrequency
0 500 1000 1500
0102030405060
2ln(BF) - Mammals Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
050100150
2ln(BF) - Turtles Monophyletic
Frequency
0 500 1000 1500
020406080100120140
-500 0 500 1000 1500
050010001500
2ln(BF)
Frequency
Amniotes
Archosaurs
Birds
Crocodilians
Diapsids
Lepidosaurs
Mammals
Reject Support
How much information do we
have about turtle placement?
Not a lot.
-400 -300 -200 -100 0 100
0500100015002000
2ln(BF)
Frequency
Amniotes
Archosaurs
Birds
Crocodilians
Diapsids
Lepidosaurs
Mammals
Take Homes
• Highly variable information quantity and quality
across data sets. Implications for comparing results
across studies.
• Lots of heterogeneity across genes. Implications
for methods that model gene-tree variation.
• Relatively speaking, much less information to place
turtles than for other ‘backbone’ branches.
Ongoing
• How do properties of genes (rate, clockness,
alignment quality, etc.) relate to signal?
• How is the information in a gene distributed
across branches?
• Can we identify genes with reliable signal? (For
early results, see Doyle et al., Syst Biol.,Advance
Access)
Words of Caution
• Bug in MrBayes v3.2.x that turns off topology
moves incorrectly under some combinations of
constraints.
• Negative constraints are tricky. Tree spaces
become exceptionally rugged and strange things can
happen in some cases when using Metropolis
coupling (more coming soon).
Full Posterior Negative Constraint
ThankYou
DEB-1355071
@jembrown

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Comparing the Amount and Quality of Information from Different Sequencing Strategies: A Case Study with Amniotes

  • 1. Comparing the amount and quality of information from different sequencing strategies: A case study with amniotes Jeremy M. Brown and Robert C. Thomson @jembrown www.phyleauxgenetics.org
  • 3. Phylogenomic Data = Simple Patterns of Evolution = Complicated Patterns of Evolution Missing Data
  • 4. Phylogenomic Data = Reliable Information = Unreliable Information = More Information = Less Information
  • 5. The Ideal . . . . . . . . . . One Gene Whole Genome Parameter ValueParameter Value Likelihood Likelihood llustration of how large data sets allow an arbitrarily great reduction in the variance of an estimate without making it an airs of DNA sequences with an evolutionary distance of 0.7 substitutions per site were generated according to a GTR (Lana and Phylogenomics · doi:10.1093/molbev/msr202 M Kumar et al. 2012. Mol. Biol. Evol.
  • 6. The Worst Case n illustration of how large data sets allow an arbitrarily great reduction in the variance of an estimate without making it a Pairs of DNA sequences with an evolutionary distance of 0.7 substitutions per site were generated according to a GTR (Lana vare 1986) of evolution using SeqGen (Rambaut and Grassly 1997). The evolutionary distance between simulated sequences w s and Phylogenomics · doi:10.1093/molbev/msr202 M Kumar et al. 2012. Mol. Biol. Evol.
  • 7. Big Data = Strong Support Caiman Podarcis Python Phrynops Gallus Ornithorhynchus Monodelphis Taeniopygia Alligator Emys Anolis Caretta Chelonoidis Homo Xenopus Protopterus 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0.99 1 1 1 1 0.1 substitution / site BPML = - BPPARTG = - BPPARTC = 100 PPBAY = - PPPARTC = 1.0 PPCAT = 1.0 tes as inferred from analyses of the 248-gene dataset. (a) Bayesian consensus topology 62,342 sites) under the CAT-GTR + G4 mixture model. (b) Bayesian consensus topology e dataset (187,026 sites) under the CAT-GTR + G4 mixture model. The nodal values indicate ical support values obtained with different methods, models and data partitions detailed in saurs. Note the relative incongruence between the two trees concerning the position of except for Chelonoidis from Y. Chiari. Please note also that the taxonomy of Galapagos turtles me for the Chelonoidis specimen included here might be Chelonoidis sp. enetic position of turtles based on the various reconstruction methods, Amino acids Nucleotides All positions All positions Positions 1 + 2 Positions 3 62,342 187,026 124,684 62,342 Page 3 of 14 and relevant to resolving ancient phylogenetic enig throughout the tree of life [28]. This approach to h throughput phylogenomics—based on thousand loci—is likely to fundamentally change the way systematists gather and analyse data. (a) Additional information We provide all data and links to software via Dryad r sitory (doi:10.5061/dryad.75nv22qj) and GenB (JQ868813–JQ885411). We thank R. Nilsen, K. Jones, M. Harvey, R. Nussb G. Schneider, D. Ray, D. Peterson, C. Moran, L. M S. Isberg, C. Mancuso, S. Herke, two anonymous revie and the LSU Genomic Facility. National Science Found grants DEB-1119734, DEB-0841729 and DEB-0956 and an Amazon Web Services Education Grant supp this study. N.G.C., B.C.F., J.E.M. and T.C.G. designed study; N.G.C. and B.C.F. performed phylogenetic ana B.C.F. created datasets; J.E.M. performed laboratory w all authors helped write the manuscript. 1 Lee, M. S. Y., Reeder, T. W., Slowinski, J. B. & Law R. 2004 Resolving reptile relationships. In Assem the tree of life (eds J. Cracraft & M. J. Donog pp. 451–467. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press 2 Lee, M. 1997 Reptile relationships turn turtle. N 389, 245–246. (doi:10.1038/38422) 3 Rieppel, O. 1999 Turtle origins. Science 283, 945– (doi:10.1126/science.283.5404.945) 4 Janke, A., Erpenbeck, D., Nilsson, M. & Aranason 2001 The mitochondrial genomes of the iguana (Ig iguana) and the caiman (Caiman crocodylus): implica for amniote phylogeny. Proc. R. Soc. Lond. B 268, 6 631. (doi:10.1098/rspb.2000.1402) 5 Hedges, S. & Poling, L. 1999 A molecular phyloge reptiles. Science 283, 998–1001. (doi:10.1126/sci 283.5404.998) 6 Rest, J. S., Ast, J. C., Austin, C. C., Waddell, (a) (b) snake lizard turtles tuatara crocodilians birds human 0.03 substitutions/site snake lizard tuatara side-necked turtle painted turtle American alligator saltwater crocodile zebra finch chicken human 1.0/100 1.0/100 1.0/100 1.0/100 1.0/100 1.0/100 1.0/100 Pantherophis guttata Anolis carolinensis Sphenodon tuatara Pelomedusa subrufa Chrysemys picta Alligator mississippiensis Crocodylus porosus Taeniopygia guttata Gallus gallus Homo sapiens UCEs place turtles sister to archosaurs N. G. Crawford et al. on November 6, 2012rsbl.royalsocietypublishing.orgDownloaded from Additional file 1, Tables S7, S8), mirroring previous work showing up-regulated gene expression in response to hypoxia in other vertebrate tissues, including many gene exp (see Add S12), bu Figure 2 A revised phylogeny of major amniote lineages and their rates of m relationships of the eight primary amniote lineages, and their rates of molecular evol relationship of turtle and archosaurs (allligator plus birds). The numbers at nodes den (b) The histogram shows the relative rate of substitution inferred for each lineage un Methods, Phylogeny and substitution rate). Bradley Shaffer et al. Genome Biology 2013, 14:R28 http://genomebiology.com/2013/14/3/R28 Crawford et al. (2012) Biology Letters 8:783 Chiari et al. (2012) BMC Biology 10:65 Shaffer et al. (2013) Genome Biology 14:R28 @jembrown
  • 8. Variation in Genomic Sampling @jembrown
  • 9. Basic Unanswered Questions • How much do phylogenomic datasets vary in information content? • How does the amount and quality of information vary across loci? @jembrown
  • 10. 6 Amniote Datasets • Chiari et al. (2012) • 248 transcriptomic loci • 12 taxa • Crawford et al. (2012) • 1,145 UCEs • 10 taxa • Fong et al. (2012) • 75 Sanger-sequenced loci • 129 taxa • Lu et al. (2013) • 1,638 transriptomic and genomic loci • 11 taxa Western Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta). Photo by Brad Shaffer. • Shaffer et al. (2013) • 1,955 genomic loci • 8 taxa • Wang et al. (2013) • 1,113 genomic loci • 12 taxa @jembrown
  • 12. Bayes Factors P(M ) ! P( |M ) P(M | ) P(M ) ! P( |M ) P(M | ) =" 1" 2" 2" 2" 1" 1" Prior Odds Posterior Odds Bayes Factor 2ln(BF) < -10 = Strong Support for Model 2 2ln(BF) > 10 = Strong Support for Model 1 @jembrown
  • 13. Bipartition Bayes Factors @jembrown A B C E D Marginal likelihood with AB | CDE Bayes Factor Marginal likelihood without AB | CDE
  • 14. Bayes Factors are Unbounded -200 0 200 400 0.00.20.40.60.81.0 2ln(BF) PosteriorProbability Mammal Monophyly (Wang et al.) 37% points @jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 15. Support for Bird Monophyly 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 0102030 Chiari et al. (Transcripts) 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 0100200300400 Crawford et al. (UCEs) 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 051015 Fong et al. (Sanger) 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 0100200300400500600 Lu et al. (Transcripts/Genomes) 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 050100150 Shaffer et al. (Genomes) 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 01020304050 Wang et al. (Genomes) @jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 16. Chiari Fong Wang -1000100 Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100 Amniota Archosauria 2ln(BF) Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang 05001000 Aves Chiari Crawford Fong Wang -4000400800 Crocodilians Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100300500 Mammalia Crawford Lu -100-50050 Lepidosauria Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer -4000400 Squamata Chiari Fong Lu Wang -1000-500050010001500 -100100 Testudines 0@jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 17. Chiari Fong Wang -1000100 Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100 Amniota Archosauria 2ln(BF) Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang 05001000 Aves Chiari Crawford Fong Wang -4000400800 Crocodilians Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100300500 Mammalia Crawford Lu -100-50050 Lepidosauria Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer -4000400 Squamata Chiari Fong Lu Wang -1000-500050010001500 -100100 Testudines 0 Histograms on previous slide @jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 18. Chiari Fong Wang -1000100 Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100 Amniota Archosauria 2ln(BF) Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang 05001000 Aves Chiari Crawford Fong Wang -4000400800 Crocodilians Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100300500 Mammalia Crawford Lu -100-50050 Lepidosauria Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer -4000400 Squamata Chiari Fong Lu Wang -1000-500050010001500 -100100 Testudines 0 Median support values don’t change that much. @jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 19. Chiari Fong Wang -1000100 Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100 Amniota Archosauria 2ln(BF) Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang 05001000 Aves Chiari Crawford Fong Wang -4000400800 Crocodilians Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100300500 Mammalia Crawford Lu -100-50050 Lepidosauria Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer -4000400 Squamata Chiari Fong Lu Wang -1000-500050010001500 -100100 Testudines 0 “Genomic” data have much wider variance - often both for and AGAINST known relationships @jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 20. Chiari Fong Wang -1000100 Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100 Amniota Archosauria 2ln(BF) Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer Wang 05001000 Aves Chiari Crawford Fong Wang -4000400800 Crocodilians Chiari Fong Lu Shaffer Wang -1000100300500 Mammalia Crawford Lu -100-50050 Lepidosauria Chiari Crawford Fong Lu Shaffer -4000400 Squamata Chiari Fong Lu Wang -1000-500050010001500 -100100 Testudines 0 A “minimum bound” on the level of systematic error (conservative). Amniotes likely a better-case scenario. @jembrown Brown and Thomson, In Prep
  • 21. How much information do we have about turtle placement?
  • 22. How much information do we have about turtle placement? 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 01020304050 Wang et al. (Genomes) 2ln(BF) - Crocodilians MonophyleticFrequency 0 500 1000 1500 0102030405060 2ln(BF) - Mammals Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 050100150 2ln(BF) - Turtles Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 020406080100120140
  • 23. How much information do we have about turtle placement? 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 01020304050 Wang et al. (Genomes) 2ln(BF) - Crocodilians MonophyleticFrequency 0 500 1000 1500 0102030405060 2ln(BF) - Mammals Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 050100150 2ln(BF) - Turtles Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 020406080100120140 -500 0 500 1000 1500 050010001500 2ln(BF) Frequency Amniotes Archosaurs Birds Crocodilians Diapsids Lepidosaurs Mammals
  • 24. How much information do we have about turtle placement? 2ln(BF) - Birds Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 01020304050 Wang et al. (Genomes) 2ln(BF) - Crocodilians MonophyleticFrequency 0 500 1000 1500 0102030405060 2ln(BF) - Mammals Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 050100150 2ln(BF) - Turtles Monophyletic Frequency 0 500 1000 1500 020406080100120140 -500 0 500 1000 1500 050010001500 2ln(BF) Frequency Amniotes Archosaurs Birds Crocodilians Diapsids Lepidosaurs Mammals Reject Support
  • 25. How much information do we have about turtle placement? Not a lot. -400 -300 -200 -100 0 100 0500100015002000 2ln(BF) Frequency Amniotes Archosaurs Birds Crocodilians Diapsids Lepidosaurs Mammals
  • 26. Take Homes • Highly variable information quantity and quality across data sets. Implications for comparing results across studies. • Lots of heterogeneity across genes. Implications for methods that model gene-tree variation. • Relatively speaking, much less information to place turtles than for other ‘backbone’ branches.
  • 27. Ongoing • How do properties of genes (rate, clockness, alignment quality, etc.) relate to signal? • How is the information in a gene distributed across branches? • Can we identify genes with reliable signal? (For early results, see Doyle et al., Syst Biol.,Advance Access)
  • 28. Words of Caution • Bug in MrBayes v3.2.x that turns off topology moves incorrectly under some combinations of constraints. • Negative constraints are tricky. Tree spaces become exceptionally rugged and strange things can happen in some cases when using Metropolis coupling (more coming soon). Full Posterior Negative Constraint