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From “Cash Revenue Machine” to
“Customer Relationship Management”
How Babbel transformed the way they work along their customer lifecycle
Nina Pollex
Head of CRM, Babbel
2020
Born in Berlin
in 2007
750 people in
Berlin & NYC
(and counting…)
50+ nationalities
2020
CRM?
Marketing
Sales
Brand
Product
BI / Data
Customer
Service
2020
Marketing
CRM
CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019
Goal
€€€
2020
Marketing
CRM
CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019
Goal
€€€ Product/
Engineering
Goal
♥♥♥
2020
CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019
● … converting leads/registered users into
paying subscribers
● … while pushing longer-term/higher-priced
subscriptions over shorter ones
● … by “reasonable” discounting, driving
urgency & balancing variety of content
● … as well as personalizing based on country,
learning language & time since sign-up
🤩👏😊
2020
CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019
● … converting leads/registered users into
paying subscribers
● … while pushing longer-term/higher-priced
subscriptions over shorter ones
● … by “reasonable” discounting, driving
urgency & balancing variety of content
● … as well as personalizing based on country,
learning language & time since sign-up
Conversion
Engagement
Retention
Winback &
Re-activation
Awareness
Acquisition
Interest
Preference
Churn
Advocacy Loyalty
Upsell
Nurturing
?
?
?
?
?
?
2020
Problem: Retention & Engagement
% of users active
Time
😒 … 🤔
2020
CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation
Conversion
Engagement
Retention
Winback &
Re-activation
Awareness
Acquisition
Interest
Preference
Churn
Advocacy Loyalty
Upsell
Nurturing
We could nudge users
to come back to the
product (= learn)We could drive
advocacy & loyalty
We could help
retain learners &
win them back
We could keep
learners engaged out
of the product
We could help people
get started on their
learning journey
We could help
learners who are
struggling
2020
Conversion
Engagement
Retention
Winback &
Re-activation
Awareness
Acquisition
Interest
Preference
Churn
Advocacy Loyalty
Upsell
Nurturing
● Until 2019: 8-people team focused on one
goal (→ driving revenue)
● Doing so very successfully: ~30% of the
company’s overall new sales revenue
● → Whatever we would take on should never
come at the expensive of our “core job”
CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation
● Product being a closed ecosystem owned
& driven by the Product department –
potential of CRM and outreach via CRM
channels rarely considered 🙋 <> 🧐
2020
CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation
Step 1: Free up
resources without
neglecting current
operations
2020
Step 1: free up resources without
neglecting current operations
2. Identify potential for optimization
a) Automate standard/default campaigns
b) Speed up creative processes by
building a repository of standard/default
assets and re-using them
c) Rigorously challenge 80/20 & if in doubt
AB test to find NO uplift
󾓪 🇨🇦 🇦🇺
English
1. Analyzing time spent on recurring tasks
2020
CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation
Step 1: Free up
resources without
neglecting current
operations
Step 2: Paint a
vision & make a
plan
2020
Step 2: paint a vision & make a plan
The Habit Loop
(habit building research)
Onboarding (addressing most
common problems/questions
of new subscribers)
Reactivation GOAL
Welcome
& where
to start
What
makes
Babbel
different
What
else can
I do with
Babbel?
Great job
in your
first
week!
How to
build a
healthy
learning
routine
Cue / new
learning
content
Action /
Learn or
review
Reward /
feedback
Haven’t seen you
in a while…
Do you still remember
what “xxx” means?
+10% uplift of
weekly
engagement
over holdout
group
2020
CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation
Step 1: Free up
resources without
neglecting current
operations
Step 2: Paint a
vision & make a
plan
Step 3: Getting
exec level support
2020
Step 3: getting exec level support
No
engineering
resources
needed
No need for
statistical
significance
Ideation &
speed above
all else
A manual
hack is
better than
nothing
Ruthlessly obsessing over quick wins!
2020
CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation
Step 1: Free up
resources without
neglecting current
operations
Step 2: Paint a
vision & make a
plan
Step 4:
Cross-company buy-
in & rallying others
around our cause
Step 3: Getting
exec level support
2020
Step 4: cross-company buy-in & rallying
others around our cause
Help Me
Learn
CRM Product
Marketing
Instructional
Design
Customer
Service /
Community
Management
2020
Help Me Learn – Define the Problem
Relevance x Reach x Frequency
2020
Subscriber Onboarding – Solution & Results
Day 0 Day 1 Day 3 Day 5
Day 7
+6% +9% +5%
2020
Subscriber Onboarding – Next Iteration
No improvement!
2020
Reminders & Nudges – Solution & Results
+12%
~ +10%
+3%
2020
Reactivation of Dormants – 
Solution & Results
One-off send “Here’s what you missed”
2020
Reactivation of Dormants – 
Solution & Results
Automated send after 30 days of inactivity:
“Where are you, {Name} 😢”
Again x3 uplift in learning
activity after send, but uplift
not sustainable – need to
find a way to scale
2020
In the end, we drove our “north star”
engagement metric by > +5% in 2019
– more than any other single team!
2020
Marketing
CRM
CRM @ Babbel in 2020
Goal
€€€ Product/
Engineering
Goal
♥♥♥
CRM
2020
Collaborative Initiatives
Weekly
activity
summary
Recommendations
feat.
Machine Learning
Content
Distribution
& Testing
2020
Next Steps
Conversion → Engagement → Retention/
Winback
✔ ✔
Help Me Learn →
1.
2.
Help Me Connect (how to engage & support learners in social communities)
2020
Learnings
CRM is crucial in
driving retention &
engagement
We can’t do it in
silos, we need each
other
The lowest-hanging fruits
are always sweet (at the
beginning, anything works
better than nothing)
Still do AB test though!
Not everything always
works as expected
Numbers often speak
louder than words! No one
can argue against a +x%
uplift in a core KPI
Embrace 80/20 –
learnings, progress &
impact > perfection
Without a more extensive
communication strategy,
impact is not sustainable
Make sure your decisions &
prioritization are based on
qual and/or quant research
Without exec
support it’s hard… Changing mindset &
processes around
“what you’ve always
done” is also hard
From “Cash Revenue Machine” to
“Customer Relationship Management”
Thank You!

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Nina Pollex: 'From "Cash Revenue Machine" to "Customer Relationship Management"'

  • 1. From “Cash Revenue Machine” to “Customer Relationship Management” How Babbel transformed the way they work along their customer lifecycle
  • 2. Nina Pollex Head of CRM, Babbel 2020
  • 4. 750 people in Berlin & NYC (and counting…) 50+ nationalities
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  • 7. 2020 Marketing CRM CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019 Goal €€€
  • 8. 2020 Marketing CRM CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019 Goal €€€ Product/ Engineering Goal ♥♥♥
  • 9. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019 ● … converting leads/registered users into paying subscribers ● … while pushing longer-term/higher-priced subscriptions over shorter ones ● … by “reasonable” discounting, driving urgency & balancing variety of content ● … as well as personalizing based on country, learning language & time since sign-up 🤩👏😊
  • 10. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – pre-2019 ● … converting leads/registered users into paying subscribers ● … while pushing longer-term/higher-priced subscriptions over shorter ones ● … by “reasonable” discounting, driving urgency & balancing variety of content ● … as well as personalizing based on country, learning language & time since sign-up Conversion Engagement Retention Winback & Re-activation Awareness Acquisition Interest Preference Churn Advocacy Loyalty Upsell Nurturing ? ? ? ? ? ?
  • 11. 2020 Problem: Retention & Engagement % of users active Time 😒 … 🤔
  • 12. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation Conversion Engagement Retention Winback & Re-activation Awareness Acquisition Interest Preference Churn Advocacy Loyalty Upsell Nurturing We could nudge users to come back to the product (= learn)We could drive advocacy & loyalty We could help retain learners & win them back We could keep learners engaged out of the product We could help people get started on their learning journey We could help learners who are struggling
  • 13. 2020 Conversion Engagement Retention Winback & Re-activation Awareness Acquisition Interest Preference Churn Advocacy Loyalty Upsell Nurturing ● Until 2019: 8-people team focused on one goal (→ driving revenue) ● Doing so very successfully: ~30% of the company’s overall new sales revenue ● → Whatever we would take on should never come at the expensive of our “core job” CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation ● Product being a closed ecosystem owned & driven by the Product department – potential of CRM and outreach via CRM channels rarely considered 🙋 <> 🧐
  • 14. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation Step 1: Free up resources without neglecting current operations
  • 15. 2020 Step 1: free up resources without neglecting current operations 2. Identify potential for optimization a) Automate standard/default campaigns b) Speed up creative processes by building a repository of standard/default assets and re-using them c) Rigorously challenge 80/20 & if in doubt AB test to find NO uplift 󾓪 🇨🇦 🇦🇺 English 1. Analyzing time spent on recurring tasks
  • 16. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation Step 1: Free up resources without neglecting current operations Step 2: Paint a vision & make a plan
  • 17. 2020 Step 2: paint a vision & make a plan The Habit Loop (habit building research) Onboarding (addressing most common problems/questions of new subscribers) Reactivation GOAL Welcome & where to start What makes Babbel different What else can I do with Babbel? Great job in your first week! How to build a healthy learning routine Cue / new learning content Action / Learn or review Reward / feedback Haven’t seen you in a while… Do you still remember what “xxx” means? +10% uplift of weekly engagement over holdout group
  • 18. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation Step 1: Free up resources without neglecting current operations Step 2: Paint a vision & make a plan Step 3: Getting exec level support
  • 19. 2020 Step 3: getting exec level support No engineering resources needed No need for statistical significance Ideation & speed above all else A manual hack is better than nothing Ruthlessly obsessing over quick wins!
  • 20. 2020 CRM @ Babbel – the Transformation Step 1: Free up resources without neglecting current operations Step 2: Paint a vision & make a plan Step 4: Cross-company buy- in & rallying others around our cause Step 3: Getting exec level support
  • 21. 2020 Step 4: cross-company buy-in & rallying others around our cause Help Me Learn CRM Product Marketing Instructional Design Customer Service / Community Management
  • 22. 2020 Help Me Learn – Define the Problem Relevance x Reach x Frequency
  • 23. 2020 Subscriber Onboarding – Solution & Results Day 0 Day 1 Day 3 Day 5 Day 7 +6% +9% +5%
  • 25. 2020 Reminders & Nudges – Solution & Results +12% ~ +10% +3%
  • 26. 2020 Reactivation of Dormants –  Solution & Results One-off send “Here’s what you missed”
  • 27. 2020 Reactivation of Dormants –  Solution & Results Automated send after 30 days of inactivity: “Where are you, {Name} 😢” Again x3 uplift in learning activity after send, but uplift not sustainable – need to find a way to scale
  • 28. 2020 In the end, we drove our “north star” engagement metric by > +5% in 2019 – more than any other single team!
  • 29. 2020 Marketing CRM CRM @ Babbel in 2020 Goal €€€ Product/ Engineering Goal ♥♥♥ CRM
  • 31. 2020 Next Steps Conversion → Engagement → Retention/ Winback ✔ ✔ Help Me Learn → 1. 2. Help Me Connect (how to engage & support learners in social communities)
  • 32. 2020 Learnings CRM is crucial in driving retention & engagement We can’t do it in silos, we need each other The lowest-hanging fruits are always sweet (at the beginning, anything works better than nothing) Still do AB test though! Not everything always works as expected Numbers often speak louder than words! No one can argue against a +x% uplift in a core KPI Embrace 80/20 – learnings, progress & impact > perfection Without a more extensive communication strategy, impact is not sustainable Make sure your decisions & prioritization are based on qual and/or quant research Without exec support it’s hard… Changing mindset & processes around “what you’ve always done” is also hard
  • 33. From “Cash Revenue Machine” to “Customer Relationship Management” Thank You!