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Hospital & Personal Finance 101 
Emergency Medicine Interest Group 
by K. Gordon Ngai, MPH & Dr. Chanmagum 
November 23, 2007
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Presentation Outline 
SECTION 1 Hospital Management 101 
SECTION 2 Personal Finance 101 
SECTION 3 Basic Needs—House, Car, Debt 
SECTION 4 Investment 101 
SECTION 5 Take Home Points
SECTION 1 
Hospital Management 101
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Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 
 Maryland is a special case — all-payer system 
 Cost (what we bill) ≠ Revenue (what we receive) 
– Revenue can increase or decrease based on 
reimbursement scheme 
– 4 separate reimbursement scheme: 
1. Fee-for-service 
2. Prospective Payment 
3. Per diem Payment 
4. Capitation 
Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial 
case for clinical improvement
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Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 
1. Fee-for-service— Hospital’s heaven 
 provide no financial incentive for improvement 
Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial 
case for clinical improvement
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Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 
2. Prospective Payment 
• Medicare 
• About 40% of JHH patients 
Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial 
case for clinical improvement
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Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 
3. Per diem payment 
• i.e. reimburse for each day of hospitalization 
Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial 
case for clinical improvement 
4. Capitation 
• i.e. Kaiser Permanente 
• minimal at Johns Hopkins Hospital
SECTION 2 
Personal Finance 101
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Personal Finance—How Much do You Worth? 
¨Understand Compound Interest 
– $10,000 this year = $10,000 (1 + interest) next year 
– If you think you understand the above, try to understand 
this: 
– $10,000 in year 2020 = $10,000/[(1+ interest)^(2020- 
2008)]
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Personal Finance—How Much do You Worth? 
¨Discount of Cash Flow (DCF) /Present Value 
(PV) Analysis 
– Estimate of how much you are worth NOW 
– If you’re working solely for money, you should not work if 
you win a lottery ≥ $3,833,294 today 
– But we’re not working for money, right? 
Sources: 
Amortization Model—http://vertex42.com
SECTION 3 
Basic Needs
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Basic Needs—Housing 
¨Rent vs. Buy 
– Renting  hassle free, ‘cheaper’ but no gain in net worth 
– Buying  Usually appreciate in value (not now), interest 
is tax deductible, appreciation can apply to future 
purchase or tax deductions (Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997) 
¨If You’ve Decided to Buy 
– Try not to mortgage for more than 20 years 
– avoid adjustable mortgage when interest rate is low 
– Understand loan amortization (bulk of your money goes 
into interest in early years) 
Sources: 
Amortization Model—http://vertex42.com 
Tax info—http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/20041018a1.asp (accessed on 12-20-2007)
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Basic Needs—Car 
¨Car 
– All you need is a vehicle that can start when you want it 
to start, and bring you to places you want to go, right? 
– Maybe not… 
– Bottom line—for luxury car lease for 36 months is 
cheaper in cost than owning for 3 years
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Basic Needs—Debt 
¨School Loans 
– Deferral is the key for Federal Loans 
– Pay-off the highest interest rate first—duh…
SECTION 4 
Investment 101
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Investment 101—Understanding Risk (β) 
¨Risk (aka β) 
– No pain, no gain  Higher the risk, higher the return 
¨Stocks, Bonds, 401(k), Traditional IRA, Roth 
IRA, Hedge Funds, Mutual Funds, Foreign 
Currency Exchange (FX), Precious Metals 
(gold, silver, copper, etc…), orange juice, soy 
bean, milk… 
– No kidding, everything is ‘tradable’ 
– Bottom line  Understand the cycles, maximize your 
401(k) and IRA when possible 
Sources: 
IRA—http://www.ira.com (accessed on 12-10-2007)
SECTION 5 
Take Home Points
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Take Home Pointes 
¨Live a debt-free life 
– You’ve already have everything, stop chasing 
¨You can’t do it all 
– It’s important to understand these concepts, but there are 
professionals out there to help you manage your wealth

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Finance 101 for ED Interets Group

  • 1. Hospital & Personal Finance 101 Emergency Medicine Interest Group by K. Gordon Ngai, MPH & Dr. Chanmagum November 23, 2007
  • 2. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Presentation Outline SECTION 1 Hospital Management 101 SECTION 2 Personal Finance 101 SECTION 3 Basic Needs—House, Car, Debt SECTION 4 Investment 101 SECTION 5 Take Home Points
  • 3. SECTION 1 Hospital Management 101
  • 4. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid?  Maryland is a special case — all-payer system  Cost (what we bill) ≠ Revenue (what we receive) – Revenue can increase or decrease based on reimbursement scheme – 4 separate reimbursement scheme: 1. Fee-for-service 2. Prospective Payment 3. Per diem Payment 4. Capitation Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial case for clinical improvement
  • 5. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 1. Fee-for-service— Hospital’s heaven  provide no financial incentive for improvement Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial case for clinical improvement
  • 6. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 2. Prospective Payment • Medicare • About 40% of JHH patients Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial case for clinical improvement
  • 7. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Hospital Management 101—How does ED get paid? 3. Per diem payment • i.e. reimburse for each day of hospitalization Source: Ward et al., 2006 VHA series, building a financial case for clinical improvement 4. Capitation • i.e. Kaiser Permanente • minimal at Johns Hopkins Hospital
  • 8. SECTION 2 Personal Finance 101
  • 9. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Personal Finance—How Much do You Worth? ¨Understand Compound Interest – $10,000 this year = $10,000 (1 + interest) next year – If you think you understand the above, try to understand this: – $10,000 in year 2020 = $10,000/[(1+ interest)^(2020- 2008)]
  • 10. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Personal Finance—How Much do You Worth? ¨Discount of Cash Flow (DCF) /Present Value (PV) Analysis – Estimate of how much you are worth NOW – If you’re working solely for money, you should not work if you win a lottery ≥ $3,833,294 today – But we’re not working for money, right? Sources: Amortization Model—http://vertex42.com
  • 12. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Basic Needs—Housing ¨Rent vs. Buy – Renting  hassle free, ‘cheaper’ but no gain in net worth – Buying  Usually appreciate in value (not now), interest is tax deductible, appreciation can apply to future purchase or tax deductions (Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997) ¨If You’ve Decided to Buy – Try not to mortgage for more than 20 years – avoid adjustable mortgage when interest rate is low – Understand loan amortization (bulk of your money goes into interest in early years) Sources: Amortization Model—http://vertex42.com Tax info—http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/real-estate/20041018a1.asp (accessed on 12-20-2007)
  • 13. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Basic Needs—Car ¨Car – All you need is a vehicle that can start when you want it to start, and bring you to places you want to go, right? – Maybe not… – Bottom line—for luxury car lease for 36 months is cheaper in cost than owning for 3 years
  • 14. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Basic Needs—Debt ¨School Loans – Deferral is the key for Federal Loans – Pay-off the highest interest rate first—duh…
  • 16. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Investment 101—Understanding Risk (β) ¨Risk (aka β) – No pain, no gain  Higher the risk, higher the return ¨Stocks, Bonds, 401(k), Traditional IRA, Roth IRA, Hedge Funds, Mutual Funds, Foreign Currency Exchange (FX), Precious Metals (gold, silver, copper, etc…), orange juice, soy bean, milk… – No kidding, everything is ‘tradable’ – Bottom line  Understand the cycles, maximize your 401(k) and IRA when possible Sources: IRA—http://www.ira.com (accessed on 12-10-2007)
  • 17. SECTION 5 Take Home Points
  • 18. chanmab [printed: ____] [saved: ____] Presentation1 Take Home Pointes ¨Live a debt-free life – You’ve already have everything, stop chasing ¨You can’t do it all – It’s important to understand these concepts, but there are professionals out there to help you manage your wealth