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How do you evaluate greatness:
based on success or technique?
.
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MAC
CP50
How do you evaluate the depth:
based on brain or spinal effects?
3
Hey MAC, do you really belong here?
• GA produces its effect by acting on the brain
• MAC doesn’t evaluate the effect on brain
• MACBAR --> the concentration which suppress
autonomic responses
• MACawake --> the concentration needed to
suppress a voluntary response to verbal
command; but no noxious stimulus
• Aren’t we in need of a potency measure that
rely only on brain effects…?
3/26/2023
4
Makeup change a lot externally; don’t
be deceived
• Processed EEGs are not physiological ‘live’ measures of
cortical activity
• They are probability measures of anaesthetic depth based on
a proprietary database
• Different agents attain the same endpoint like LOC at
different BIS --> so you can’t compare
• Arbitrary nature & intervariability dilutes your mission
3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
5
Sticking with the original….
• Raw EEG has its own problems as a measure of DOA
• EEG directly assess the functional changes in the brain
following GA
• But one common endpoint: EEG Burst Suppression (BS)
• BS MAC (volatile agent) / BS CP50 (iv agent)
• To determine the anaesthetic concentration that can induce
EEG burst suppression in 50% of patients
• A true measure of the brain-effect of GA
3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
6
Fresh ideas may pave the path for
innovation..
3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
7
Burst Suppression as an end point:
Conventional parameters
• For lighter planes, can use clinical endpoint like LOC
• For deeper planes, choices are less
• An endpoint with suppression duration for >1 sec like BSR or
burst pattern or suppression duration are agent-specific and
influenced by pharmacokinetic differences in distribution and
metabolism
• So such an index will not be focusing only on the potency of
the drug
3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
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Burst Suppression as an end point:
The ‘Silent second’
• ‘Silent second’ = burst suppression lasting at least 1 s.
• Well defined endpoint for testing of anaesthetic potency in
animal models
• In the intact animal, it depends only on the potency of the
drug and the dose administration rate of the infusion.
• The onset of burst suppression is achieved without agent
specific EEG characteristics.
3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
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The younger parameter:
MAC BS AND CP50 BS Pilge et al.
• MACaw and MACBAR are too presented as a fraction of MAC
3/26/2023
AGENT MAC BS CP50 BS
SEVOFLURANE MAC x 1.4
ISOFLURANE MAC x 1.3
PROPOFOL CP50 x 1/3
10
The veteran with the juniors
3/26/2023
AGENT MAC MACAW MACBAR MAC BS
SEVOFLURANE 2.0 0.6 MAC 3.5 MAC MAC x 1.4
ISOFLURANE 1.15 0.5 MAC 1.3 MAC MAC x 1.3
DESFLURANE 6.0 2.5 MAC 1.3 MAC ____
11
The hurdles in the journey
• Ketamine
• Age
• Baseline delta EEG
• Correlation with conventional DOA monitors:
– MAC--> Too deep!
– Processed EEG-->
• The problems with too deep inhalational
anaesthesia
– Neuroanaesthesia
– Hemodynamics, POD
– Other drug dosing, premedication
– N2O
• For propofol, it may be a good parameter
3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
12
New wine in old pot !!!!
• BS MAC (volatile agent) / BS CP50 (iv agent): S. Pilge et al BJA
2014
• Power Spectral Density, Amplitude & slope of the burst in
first 2 sec Fleischmann et al. Frontiers in Human
Neuroscience 2018
• EEG Approximate entropy: Bruhn et al Anesthesiology 2000
• The spindle waves: Hajihira et al, BJA 2015
• Burst suppression: Hoffman et al, Anesth Analg, 1995
3/26/2023
A new window of research
13
MAC: THE MR RELIABLE
3/26/2023
DESIRABLE ATTRIBUTES OF MAC
QUANTITATIVE METHOD
CAN BE APPLIED TO ALL AGENTS
SHOULD BE REPRODUCIBLE
EASE OF MEASUREMENT
SHOULD NOT INCREASE WITH STIMULUS INTENSITY
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  • 1.
  • 2. 2 How do you evaluate greatness: based on success or technique? . 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com MAC CP50 How do you evaluate the depth: based on brain or spinal effects?
  • 3. 3 Hey MAC, do you really belong here? • GA produces its effect by acting on the brain • MAC doesn’t evaluate the effect on brain • MACBAR --> the concentration which suppress autonomic responses • MACawake --> the concentration needed to suppress a voluntary response to verbal command; but no noxious stimulus • Aren’t we in need of a potency measure that rely only on brain effects…? 3/26/2023
  • 4. 4 Makeup change a lot externally; don’t be deceived • Processed EEGs are not physiological ‘live’ measures of cortical activity • They are probability measures of anaesthetic depth based on a proprietary database • Different agents attain the same endpoint like LOC at different BIS --> so you can’t compare • Arbitrary nature & intervariability dilutes your mission 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
  • 5. 5 Sticking with the original…. • Raw EEG has its own problems as a measure of DOA • EEG directly assess the functional changes in the brain following GA • But one common endpoint: EEG Burst Suppression (BS) • BS MAC (volatile agent) / BS CP50 (iv agent) • To determine the anaesthetic concentration that can induce EEG burst suppression in 50% of patients • A true measure of the brain-effect of GA 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
  • 6. 6 Fresh ideas may pave the path for innovation.. 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
  • 7. 7 Burst Suppression as an end point: Conventional parameters • For lighter planes, can use clinical endpoint like LOC • For deeper planes, choices are less • An endpoint with suppression duration for >1 sec like BSR or burst pattern or suppression duration are agent-specific and influenced by pharmacokinetic differences in distribution and metabolism • So such an index will not be focusing only on the potency of the drug 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
  • 8. 8 Burst Suppression as an end point: The ‘Silent second’ • ‘Silent second’ = burst suppression lasting at least 1 s. • Well defined endpoint for testing of anaesthetic potency in animal models • In the intact animal, it depends only on the potency of the drug and the dose administration rate of the infusion. • The onset of burst suppression is achieved without agent specific EEG characteristics. 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
  • 9. 9 The younger parameter: MAC BS AND CP50 BS Pilge et al. • MACaw and MACBAR are too presented as a fraction of MAC 3/26/2023 AGENT MAC BS CP50 BS SEVOFLURANE MAC x 1.4 ISOFLURANE MAC x 1.3 PROPOFOL CP50 x 1/3
  • 10. 10 The veteran with the juniors 3/26/2023 AGENT MAC MACAW MACBAR MAC BS SEVOFLURANE 2.0 0.6 MAC 3.5 MAC MAC x 1.4 ISOFLURANE 1.15 0.5 MAC 1.3 MAC MAC x 1.3 DESFLURANE 6.0 2.5 MAC 1.3 MAC ____
  • 11. 11 The hurdles in the journey • Ketamine • Age • Baseline delta EEG • Correlation with conventional DOA monitors: – MAC--> Too deep! – Processed EEG--> • The problems with too deep inhalational anaesthesia – Neuroanaesthesia – Hemodynamics, POD – Other drug dosing, premedication – N2O • For propofol, it may be a good parameter 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com
  • 12. 12 New wine in old pot !!!! • BS MAC (volatile agent) / BS CP50 (iv agent): S. Pilge et al BJA 2014 • Power Spectral Density, Amplitude & slope of the burst in first 2 sec Fleischmann et al. Frontiers in Human Neuroscience 2018 • EEG Approximate entropy: Bruhn et al Anesthesiology 2000 • The spindle waves: Hajihira et al, BJA 2015 • Burst suppression: Hoffman et al, Anesth Analg, 1995 3/26/2023 A new window of research
  • 13. 13 MAC: THE MR RELIABLE 3/26/2023 DESIRABLE ATTRIBUTES OF MAC QUANTITATIVE METHOD CAN BE APPLIED TO ALL AGENTS SHOULD BE REPRODUCIBLE EASE OF MEASUREMENT SHOULD NOT INCREASE WITH STIMULUS INTENSITY
  • 14. 14 3/26/2023 Designed by PoweredTemplate.com