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LEGAL
SERVICES
PRICING
A New Discipline
that In-House
Counsel Need to
Understand
RUBSUN HO Cognition LLP
JULIA SHIN DOI General Counsel & Secretary of the Board of Governors, Ryerson University
TYLER LANGDON Cognition LLP
AGENDA
• An overview of pricing today
• A practical approach to pricing for in-house
counsel
• Pricing international counsel
THE BILLABLE HOUR – HOW DID WE GET HERE?
Early 20th Century
Set fees;
Annual retainers;
Eyeball method;
Contingency;
Value based
1930’s – 1940’s
Standard Fees;
Minimum Fee
Schedules
1960’s
Matters
became more
complex;
Billable hours as
proxy for value
1970’s
Straight billable
hours;
Billable Targets
“Law firms have been extraordinarily profitable over the last 50
years based on a model that has them charging by the hour, so
clients are rewarding effort, not results.”
Washington DC Partner in Washington Post
Is the Billable Hour the right billing model?
"The billable hour is
fundamentally about
quantity over quality,
repetition over
creativity”
Robert Hirshon
President
American Bar Association
“Now Vince has random people working
full time on random research projects in
standard ‘churn that bill, baby!’ mode….
That bill shall know no limits.”
Christopher Thomson, Former DLA Piper lawyer
BIGLAW UNDER PRESSURE
• Downward pricing pressure from corporate clients
• Slowdown in transaction dealflow
• Competition from global firms
• Competition for alternative providers
• Competition from offshore LPO’s
• Technology pressure
• Alternative fee push
As part of his blog, Johansen (www.patrickonpricing.com) has
assembled a current catalog of pricing professionals with their
respective firms and titles. While the list is not exhaustive, the
identified roles now exceed 50 in number. Surprisingly, more
than 40 of these roles did not exist just five years ago—a clear
indication of the discipline's rapid rise.
THE RISE OF LAW FIRM PRICING DIRECTORS
Steven Petrie, Chief Strategy Officer, Faegre Baker Daniels LLP
The Role of the Law Firm Pricing
Director
• Understand Firm Cost Structure (to maintain profitability)
• Implement Processes and Procedures (to maintain profitability)
• Implement Project Management (to maintain profitability)
• Understand what clients are willing to pay (to maintain profitability)
• Effectively price AFA’s (to maintain profitability)
Ensure Firm
PROFITABILITY
71% of firms report clients are the primary driver of changes
to pricing strategy – Altman Weil 2014 Survey
Who is the Counterpart to the Law
Firm Pricing Director?
The Pricing Role of In-house Counsel
• Set and Maintain Budgets (in the face of budget cuts)
• Resource Management of Legal Projects
• Manage Outside Counsel Relationships
• Target the optimal usage of the right resources at the
right price
• Ensure (some) firm profitability
Act as a Project Manger to
ENSURE VALUE
39% of in-house counsel are doing more with fewer resources
“Corporate Counsel Agenda 2013” ALM Legal
How Can the CLO Ensure Value?
KNOW YOUR
OPTIONS
DEFINE
VALUE
UN-
BUNDLE right PEOPLE
right PRICE
right PLACE
CLO
Project
Manager
MANY LEGAL NEEDS
MANY LEGAL OPTIONS
THE RIGHT PRICE
Continuum of Fee Arrangements™
Patrick Johanssen
www.patrickonpricing.com
LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION/INTERACTION B/T CLIENT & FIRM
GREATER
CLIENT
RISK
GREATER
FIRM
RISK
In 2009, 28 percent of law firm leaders
believed that non-hourly billing would be a
permanent change in the legal industry,
according to legal consulting firm Altman
Weil. By 2013, the figure had jumped to 80
percent. Since 2012, a handful of major
firms, including Holland & Knight and
McDermott Will & Emery, have even ditched
the billable hour model altogether for
entire teams of people.
Washington Post, April 2013
Julia S. Shin Doi
General Counsel & Secretary of the Board of Governors, Ryerson
University
August, 2014
Legal Pricing:
Perspectives &
Strategies
Standard Legal Pricing
16
Hourly Rate of Lawyer x Time = Price
1. Management of Hourly Rate
Discounts to Hourly Rate:
10% - 15% - 20%
Freeze Hourly Rate:
No Annual Increase of Hourly Rate
Blended Hourly Rate:
Combined Average of Hourly Rate of Senior Lawyer
and Junior Lawyer
17
Hourly Rate
Cap on Hourly Rate
Maximum (or Minimum) Hourly Rate for Matter
Cap on Hourly Rate until Matter concluded
Roster of Hourly Rates
Track and Compare Hourly Rates
18
2. Price
Fixed Fee:
Specific Fee for Matter or Deliverable
Best Price:
Best Price between Hourly Rate/Time and Fixed Fee
Flat Fee:
One Fee for all Matters for set period of Time
19
3. Management of Time
Learning Time:
Discount for Learning Time by Junior Lawyer
Discount for Student Time
Non-billable Research Time
Time for Instructions
Overlapping or Duplicate Time:
Activity billed once (e.g. review of decision, attendance at
meeting)
Inter-office meeting time
20
Time
Travel Time
Local travel time is non-billable
Disbursements for local travel are non-billable
Reasonableness Test
Whether time billed is warranted for the complexity, risk,
outcome
Pro Bono Time
Contribution of Time
21
4. External Counsel Guidelines
Reduces Total Legal Spend by a minimum of 10%
- Retainers of External Legal Counsel must be
approved in advance by In-House Legal Counsel
- No “General” Matters
- Monthly Billing, Forecasting every quarter
- Prompt closing and final billing of completed matters
22
5. Other Strategies
Detailed Docket Entries
Uniform Task Based Management System
Requests for Proposal
Project Management: Milestones and Estimates
Value Pricing – Incentives
Contingency
23
6. Staffing
• Internal Legal Counsel
• Part-time Legal Counsel (e.g. 1 day per week)
• Paralegals, Legal Assistants, Contractors
• Cognition
• External Legal Counsel (large firm, mid-sized firm,
boutique)
24
7. Added Value
• Dupont Legal Model – Convergence
• Relationships and Support
• Service Excellence (Responsiveness, Timeliness, Saying “Yes” )
• Continuing Education for Legal and Non-Legal Staff
• Specialized Training
• Diverse and Inclusive Legal Team
• Reputation
25
HOW DO YOU MEASURE VALUE?
ACC VALUE INDEX – asked corporate counsel to rank law firms based
on following criteria
• Understands objectives/expectations
• Efficiency/process management
• Predictable cost/budgeting skills
• Legal expertise
• Responsiveness/communication
• Results delivered/execution
HOW DO YOU MEASURE VALUE?
Paul Lippe, Legal OnRamp on what criteria you might use to
measure law firm performance in delivering sales contracts:
• How quickly did the contract get done? • How favorable are
the terms to the company (opportunity gained and risk
avoided)? • How easy are the terms for other parts of the
company (finance, manufacturing, sales, etc.) to understand and
perform? • How satisfied were the true business clients? • How
satisfied was the counterparty? • How much did the contract
cost? • Did the contracting process improve?
HOW DO YOU MEASURE VALUE?
Lisa Damon of Seyfarth Shaw on law firm value metrics that may be used in measuring
work on a trademark portfolio
• “Success” rate, measured by things like first action
allowance, watch hit outcome
• Overall satisfaction
• Timeliness of communication
• Effectiveness of “lessons learned” sessions
• Strategic participation/understanding of Wolverine
business
• Proactive issue identification
• Budget variance
• Cost management effectiveness

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Legal Pricing Strategies CLOs Must Understand

  • 1. LEGAL SERVICES PRICING A New Discipline that In-House Counsel Need to Understand RUBSUN HO Cognition LLP JULIA SHIN DOI General Counsel & Secretary of the Board of Governors, Ryerson University TYLER LANGDON Cognition LLP
  • 2. AGENDA • An overview of pricing today • A practical approach to pricing for in-house counsel • Pricing international counsel
  • 3. THE BILLABLE HOUR – HOW DID WE GET HERE? Early 20th Century Set fees; Annual retainers; Eyeball method; Contingency; Value based 1930’s – 1940’s Standard Fees; Minimum Fee Schedules 1960’s Matters became more complex; Billable hours as proxy for value 1970’s Straight billable hours; Billable Targets
  • 4. “Law firms have been extraordinarily profitable over the last 50 years based on a model that has them charging by the hour, so clients are rewarding effort, not results.” Washington DC Partner in Washington Post
  • 5. Is the Billable Hour the right billing model? "The billable hour is fundamentally about quantity over quality, repetition over creativity” Robert Hirshon President American Bar Association “Now Vince has random people working full time on random research projects in standard ‘churn that bill, baby!’ mode…. That bill shall know no limits.” Christopher Thomson, Former DLA Piper lawyer
  • 6. BIGLAW UNDER PRESSURE • Downward pricing pressure from corporate clients • Slowdown in transaction dealflow • Competition from global firms • Competition for alternative providers • Competition from offshore LPO’s • Technology pressure • Alternative fee push
  • 7. As part of his blog, Johansen (www.patrickonpricing.com) has assembled a current catalog of pricing professionals with their respective firms and titles. While the list is not exhaustive, the identified roles now exceed 50 in number. Surprisingly, more than 40 of these roles did not exist just five years ago—a clear indication of the discipline's rapid rise. THE RISE OF LAW FIRM PRICING DIRECTORS Steven Petrie, Chief Strategy Officer, Faegre Baker Daniels LLP
  • 8. The Role of the Law Firm Pricing Director • Understand Firm Cost Structure (to maintain profitability) • Implement Processes and Procedures (to maintain profitability) • Implement Project Management (to maintain profitability) • Understand what clients are willing to pay (to maintain profitability) • Effectively price AFA’s (to maintain profitability) Ensure Firm PROFITABILITY 71% of firms report clients are the primary driver of changes to pricing strategy – Altman Weil 2014 Survey
  • 9. Who is the Counterpart to the Law Firm Pricing Director?
  • 10. The Pricing Role of In-house Counsel • Set and Maintain Budgets (in the face of budget cuts) • Resource Management of Legal Projects • Manage Outside Counsel Relationships • Target the optimal usage of the right resources at the right price • Ensure (some) firm profitability Act as a Project Manger to ENSURE VALUE 39% of in-house counsel are doing more with fewer resources “Corporate Counsel Agenda 2013” ALM Legal
  • 11. How Can the CLO Ensure Value? KNOW YOUR OPTIONS DEFINE VALUE UN- BUNDLE right PEOPLE right PRICE right PLACE
  • 13. THE RIGHT PRICE Continuum of Fee Arrangements™ Patrick Johanssen www.patrickonpricing.com LEVEL OF COMMUNICATION/INTERACTION B/T CLIENT & FIRM GREATER CLIENT RISK GREATER FIRM RISK
  • 14. In 2009, 28 percent of law firm leaders believed that non-hourly billing would be a permanent change in the legal industry, according to legal consulting firm Altman Weil. By 2013, the figure had jumped to 80 percent. Since 2012, a handful of major firms, including Holland & Knight and McDermott Will & Emery, have even ditched the billable hour model altogether for entire teams of people. Washington Post, April 2013
  • 15. Julia S. Shin Doi General Counsel & Secretary of the Board of Governors, Ryerson University August, 2014 Legal Pricing: Perspectives & Strategies
  • 16. Standard Legal Pricing 16 Hourly Rate of Lawyer x Time = Price
  • 17. 1. Management of Hourly Rate Discounts to Hourly Rate: 10% - 15% - 20% Freeze Hourly Rate: No Annual Increase of Hourly Rate Blended Hourly Rate: Combined Average of Hourly Rate of Senior Lawyer and Junior Lawyer 17
  • 18. Hourly Rate Cap on Hourly Rate Maximum (or Minimum) Hourly Rate for Matter Cap on Hourly Rate until Matter concluded Roster of Hourly Rates Track and Compare Hourly Rates 18
  • 19. 2. Price Fixed Fee: Specific Fee for Matter or Deliverable Best Price: Best Price between Hourly Rate/Time and Fixed Fee Flat Fee: One Fee for all Matters for set period of Time 19
  • 20. 3. Management of Time Learning Time: Discount for Learning Time by Junior Lawyer Discount for Student Time Non-billable Research Time Time for Instructions Overlapping or Duplicate Time: Activity billed once (e.g. review of decision, attendance at meeting) Inter-office meeting time 20
  • 21. Time Travel Time Local travel time is non-billable Disbursements for local travel are non-billable Reasonableness Test Whether time billed is warranted for the complexity, risk, outcome Pro Bono Time Contribution of Time 21
  • 22. 4. External Counsel Guidelines Reduces Total Legal Spend by a minimum of 10% - Retainers of External Legal Counsel must be approved in advance by In-House Legal Counsel - No “General” Matters - Monthly Billing, Forecasting every quarter - Prompt closing and final billing of completed matters 22
  • 23. 5. Other Strategies Detailed Docket Entries Uniform Task Based Management System Requests for Proposal Project Management: Milestones and Estimates Value Pricing – Incentives Contingency 23
  • 24. 6. Staffing • Internal Legal Counsel • Part-time Legal Counsel (e.g. 1 day per week) • Paralegals, Legal Assistants, Contractors • Cognition • External Legal Counsel (large firm, mid-sized firm, boutique) 24
  • 25. 7. Added Value • Dupont Legal Model – Convergence • Relationships and Support • Service Excellence (Responsiveness, Timeliness, Saying “Yes” ) • Continuing Education for Legal and Non-Legal Staff • Specialized Training • Diverse and Inclusive Legal Team • Reputation 25
  • 26. HOW DO YOU MEASURE VALUE? ACC VALUE INDEX – asked corporate counsel to rank law firms based on following criteria • Understands objectives/expectations • Efficiency/process management • Predictable cost/budgeting skills • Legal expertise • Responsiveness/communication • Results delivered/execution
  • 27. HOW DO YOU MEASURE VALUE? Paul Lippe, Legal OnRamp on what criteria you might use to measure law firm performance in delivering sales contracts: • How quickly did the contract get done? • How favorable are the terms to the company (opportunity gained and risk avoided)? • How easy are the terms for other parts of the company (finance, manufacturing, sales, etc.) to understand and perform? • How satisfied were the true business clients? • How satisfied was the counterparty? • How much did the contract cost? • Did the contracting process improve?
  • 28. HOW DO YOU MEASURE VALUE? Lisa Damon of Seyfarth Shaw on law firm value metrics that may be used in measuring work on a trademark portfolio • “Success” rate, measured by things like first action allowance, watch hit outcome • Overall satisfaction • Timeliness of communication • Effectiveness of “lessons learned” sessions • Strategic participation/understanding of Wolverine business • Proactive issue identification • Budget variance • Cost management effectiveness

Hinweis der Redaktion

  1. DLA Piper sued a client for an unpaid bill. The client countersued, claiming he was egregiously overbilled as evidenced by this quote from an email found during discovery. DLA Piper rented the Liberty of the Seas for a mediterranean cruise for their partner’s meeting at a cost of $3.1M. This is just for the ship and doesn’t include the travel costs, meals, drinks, etc. Torys redesigned their offices to make wider hallways so that you could better admire their art. Also commissioned art for their boardrooms. 96% of firms raised their standard hourly billing rates in 2014 by at least 2% (a significant jump from ’13). Altman Weil survey. So we can question whether billing by the hour is really the optimal way to price a legal matter. Some lawyers will tell you that clients prefer to be billed by the hour. Even if we accept that it is, how do we know that the rate we are being charged is the right rate? Why are hourly rates one size fits all? Other goods and services have variable pricing – e.g. potato chips, cable/cellphone services, airfares
  2. On top of the in-house counsel’s primary role of managing risk of the organization and providing advice, reviewing documents, negotiating with vendors and suppliers, the in-house counsel must ensure that value is received for outside counsel spend
  3. DEFINE VALUE – will cover it later if there’s time, but need to ask what’s important – speed, cost, strategy, service quality, program delivery, cooperation/teamwork, communication, effectiveness, financial management Unbundle – should the law firms be the project manager or should the client be the project manager?
  4. There are any number of criteria you can use. Important thing to note is that you need to collect data to be able to measure and compare between projects or firms.