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Christian voices
in the public square
How much is too much?

               Monday 2 April 2012
              CCL Open Night
‘CHRISTIAN VOICES’:
ï‚ą   in Advocacy
    
 in the formal sphere of politics and
    parliamentary deliberation about law

ï‚ą   in Commentary
    in the sphere of „civil society‟

ï‚ą   in Evangelism
SOME   SLOGANS 

  ï‚ą    „separate church and state‟

  ï‚ą    „separate religion and politics‟

  ï‚ą    „don‟t impose your values/beliefs on me‟

  ï‚ą    „get your religion off my body‟

  ï‚ą    „religion poisons everything‟
‘HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH?’


 ‘anything’                                ‘no such thing’

‘programmatic secularism’                 ‘theonomy’
‘doctrinaire secularism’                  ‘theocracy’



                    
 both totalitarian
Secular vs. Secularism
ï‚ą 
 originally used by Christians for „this age‟
ï‚ą 
 but now changed to mean „non-religious‟


Volf: secularism „a set of related values and truth-
claims partly inherited selectively from the tradition,
partly generated by the marketplace, and partly
drawn from the hard sciences. The marketplace
enthrones personal preference as the paramount
value, and the hard sciences offer explanations using
inner-worldy causalities as the only truth.‟
‘WE’RE ALL LIBERALS NOW’

(programmatic secularism)   liberalism            (theonomy)



(1)   freedom for each person to live in accordance with
      his or     her   own interpretation       of life
      (or lack of it)
(2)   the state‟s neutrality with respect to all such
      perspectives on life                            (Volf)
‘WE’RE ALL LIBERALS NOW’


                ‘procedural secularism’

„seeks to allow all faith perspectives equal access to
the public realm but claims to confer no political
privilege on any.‟                       (Chaplin)
THE CHRISTIAN CASE FOR LIBERALISM

    a)   The King called Christ
a)   The King called Christ
     Roles of king and saviour “were combined
     uniquely by Christ and that it is thereafter
     impossible for anyone else to hold both
     offices. Their reunion awaits the coming of
     Christ again. Therefore, a separation of the
     two is an eschatological sign that
     acknowledges the fallibility of human beings
     and the need for the division of power.”
                              - David Fergusson
a)   The King
      called Christ

Differentiated authority:
The Church only has
authority to state the Word of
God in its teaching and
preaching. It points to the
future kingdom of Christ, and
to the way that kingdom
impacts the present.
a)   The King
      called Christ

Differentiated authority:
The State only has authority
to rule the present, with laws,
judgments and sentences. It
defends what is right in this
age, but is passing away,
and must never think that it
will somehow trump the
kingdom to come.
b)   The Spirit of the King
“Those who live according to the sinful nature
have their minds set on what that nature desires;
but those who live in accordance with the Spirit
have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
The mind of the sinful person is death, but the
mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the
sinful mind is hostile to God.
It does not submit to God‟s law,
nor can it do so.”
                    - Romans 8:5-7
“The person without the Spirit does not accept
the things that come from the Spirit of God, for
they are foolishness to him, and he cannot
understand them, because they are spiritually
discerned.”

                    - 1 Corinthians 2:14
“Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law,
or by believing what you heard?”

                    - Galatians 3:1-2

 regulations that:

“lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence”

                      - Colossians 2:23

 BUT HOW?

          ‘procedural secularism’

           ‘reasonable pluralism’:
       find ‘neutral common ground’

         ‘justificatory liberalism’:
       the search for ‘public’ reasons
Tenets of justificatory liberalism:
ï‚ą   Law is coercive

ï‚ą   „Public reasons‟ needed for law

ï‚ą   „strictly religious‟ reasons not public („reasons that
    derive exclusively from some particular religious
    perspective‟, R. Talisse)


 here is where we get the idea of „imposing beliefs‟
‘justificatory liberalism’:
      ‘exclusive’             vs              ‘inclusive’
only mention reasons                   religious origins OK,
that make sense to all                 but add reasons for all



     The slogans are gag-rules arising from justificatory
      liberalism: you’ve failed the ‘public reason’ test
“Conscience votes have the potential to undermine
one of the defining principles of secular liberal
democracy: the separation of religion and politics

When it comes to the issues of gay marriage,
euthanasia and abortion, [religion] functions as a
Trojan horse carrying sectional religious duties into
the party and the public office of the politician,
robbing them of the capacity to represent a general
electorate.”

                     Ryan Walter, 29/11/11, SMH.
CRITICS OF JUSTIFICATORY LIBERALISM:
a)   Assumes „common ground‟ can be found
b)   Disenfranchises deeply religious citizens
c)   Privileges an atheistic style of discourse
     - veiling real reasons
     - living dissonantly
d)   Conformist: excludes radical and
     unexpected
e)   Demands a 'right voice', rather respectful
     reciprocity
f)   Is illiberal!
AN ALTERNATIVE LIBERALISM?

                   agonistic reciprocity
                    ‘critical tolerance’
                      noisy pluralism


 but always oriented to serve moral purpose of the state:
                     ‘common good’

                 Volf: ‘gifts’ of ‘wisdom’
WHY SO MESSY?
WHY SO MESSY?

   a)   A shared
        natural
        environment
WHY SO MESSY?

   a)   A shared
        natural
        environment

   b)   ‘Objects of
        love’
Talking God
by Jonathon Chaplin

www.theosthinktank.co.uk
Francis J Beckwith,

Politics for Christians:
Statecraft as Soulcraft

InterVarsity Press, 2011.
Miroslav Volf,

A Public Faith:
How followers of
Christ should serve
the common good

Brazos Press, Baker
Publishing Group, 2011.
Thank you for joining us.

www.ccl.moore.edu.au for
more information

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CCL Open Night April 2012 - Speaking about Christ in public

  • 1. Christian voices in the public square How much is too much? Monday 2 April 2012 CCL Open Night
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  • 3. ‘CHRISTIAN VOICES’: ï‚ą in Advocacy 
 in the formal sphere of politics and parliamentary deliberation about law ï‚ą in Commentary in the sphere of „civil society‟ ï‚ą in Evangelism
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  • 5. SOME SLOGANS 
 ï‚ą „separate church and state‟ ï‚ą „separate religion and politics‟ ï‚ą „don‟t impose your values/beliefs on me‟ ï‚ą „get your religion off my body‟ ï‚ą „religion poisons everything‟
  • 6. ‘HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH?’ ‘anything’ ‘no such thing’ ‘programmatic secularism’ ‘theonomy’ ‘doctrinaire secularism’ ‘theocracy’ 
 both totalitarian
  • 7. Secular vs. Secularism ï‚ą 
 originally used by Christians for „this age‟ ï‚ą 
 but now changed to mean „non-religious‟ Volf: secularism „a set of related values and truth- claims partly inherited selectively from the tradition, partly generated by the marketplace, and partly drawn from the hard sciences. The marketplace enthrones personal preference as the paramount value, and the hard sciences offer explanations using inner-worldy causalities as the only truth.‟
  • 8. ‘WE’RE ALL LIBERALS NOW’ (programmatic secularism) liberalism (theonomy) (1) freedom for each person to live in accordance with his or her own interpretation of life (or lack of it) (2) the state‟s neutrality with respect to all such perspectives on life (Volf)
  • 9. ‘WE’RE ALL LIBERALS NOW’ ‘procedural secularism’ „seeks to allow all faith perspectives equal access to the public realm but claims to confer no political privilege on any.‟ (Chaplin)
  • 10. THE CHRISTIAN CASE FOR LIBERALISM a) The King called Christ
  • 11. a) The King called Christ Roles of king and saviour “were combined uniquely by Christ and that it is thereafter impossible for anyone else to hold both offices. Their reunion awaits the coming of Christ again. Therefore, a separation of the two is an eschatological sign that acknowledges the fallibility of human beings and the need for the division of power.” - David Fergusson
  • 12. a) The King called Christ Differentiated authority: The Church only has authority to state the Word of God in its teaching and preaching. It points to the future kingdom of Christ, and to the way that kingdom impacts the present.
  • 13. a) The King called Christ Differentiated authority: The State only has authority to rule the present, with laws, judgments and sentences. It defends what is right in this age, but is passing away, and must never think that it will somehow trump the kingdom to come.
  • 14. b) The Spirit of the King
  • 15. “Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. The mind of the sinful person is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God‟s law, nor can it do so.” - Romans 8:5-7
  • 16. “The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.” - 1 Corinthians 2:14
  • 17. “Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard?” - Galatians 3:1-2
  • 18. 
 regulations that: “lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence” - Colossians 2:23
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  • 20. 
 BUT HOW? ‘procedural secularism’ ‘reasonable pluralism’: find ‘neutral common ground’ ‘justificatory liberalism’: the search for ‘public’ reasons
  • 21. Tenets of justificatory liberalism: ï‚ą Law is coercive ï‚ą „Public reasons‟ needed for law ï‚ą „strictly religious‟ reasons not public („reasons that derive exclusively from some particular religious perspective‟, R. Talisse) 
 here is where we get the idea of „imposing beliefs‟
  • 22. ‘justificatory liberalism’: ‘exclusive’ vs ‘inclusive’ only mention reasons religious origins OK, that make sense to all but add reasons for all The slogans are gag-rules arising from justificatory liberalism: you’ve failed the ‘public reason’ test
  • 23. “Conscience votes have the potential to undermine one of the defining principles of secular liberal democracy: the separation of religion and politics
 When it comes to the issues of gay marriage, euthanasia and abortion, [religion] functions as a Trojan horse carrying sectional religious duties into the party and the public office of the politician, robbing them of the capacity to represent a general electorate.” Ryan Walter, 29/11/11, SMH.
  • 24. CRITICS OF JUSTIFICATORY LIBERALISM: a) Assumes „common ground‟ can be found b) Disenfranchises deeply religious citizens c) Privileges an atheistic style of discourse - veiling real reasons - living dissonantly d) Conformist: excludes radical and unexpected e) Demands a 'right voice', rather respectful reciprocity f) Is illiberal!
  • 25. AN ALTERNATIVE LIBERALISM? agonistic reciprocity ‘critical tolerance’ noisy pluralism 
 but always oriented to serve moral purpose of the state: ‘common good’ Volf: ‘gifts’ of ‘wisdom’
  • 27. WHY SO MESSY? a) A shared natural environment
  • 28. WHY SO MESSY? a) A shared natural environment b) ‘Objects of love’
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  • 30. Talking God by Jonathon Chaplin www.theosthinktank.co.uk
  • 31. Francis J Beckwith, Politics for Christians: Statecraft as Soulcraft InterVarsity Press, 2011.
  • 32. Miroslav Volf, A Public Faith: How followers of Christ should serve the common good Brazos Press, Baker Publishing Group, 2011.
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  • 34. Thank you for joining us. www.ccl.moore.edu.au for more information