12. Where We Are Now (Jan 2015)
Congregation Assessment Report
Pastoral charge
Argenteuil PC Rouge Valley PC
Congregation Knox-
Wesley,
Grenville
Lachute Cushing Arundel Harrington Avoca St Adele Morin
Heights
Shawbridge
Age Distribution 5 members 3 members
< 24 16% 0% 0% 0% 0% 0% 18% 0% 5%
25-59 16% 0% 20% 0% 0% 17% 55% 15% 35%
60-75 48% 20% 60% 10% 33% 33% 18% 80% 35%
>75 20% 80% 20% 90% 67% 50% 9% 5% 25%
Sunday School 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0?
Average Sunday 18 20 n/a 9 3 n/a 8-30 20 9
Reserves $ 45,250 $362,000 $0 $116,000 $ 22,400 $11,000 $ 0 $ 50,271 $139,709
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presence in
community
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community
maintain
building in
community
remain as is maintain
building -
keep church
going
maintain
building in
community
growing -
large need
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grow
spiritual and
social
presence in
our
community
14. Challenges
• Struggling / ageing/small congregations
• Limited financial resources and energy vs.
property rich (relatively)
• Buildings part of the community but without a
congregation
• Growing French ministry - large French / Bilingual
population
• Ministers are moving on
15. Church Has Changed
In 1959 four new United Churches each week; in
2000’s one church closes each week
United Church – 2002 to 2012
◦Membership decline - 26%
◦Average attendance decline – 38%
◦Church school decline – 53%
All main stream protestant denominations have
declined in Canada since mid-1960’s
Major societal changes = it is not anyone's fault!
18. We are Hanging On –
But…..
1. Insufficient resources to engage our neighbours and
grow.
2. Working in isolation - each congregation is trying to
solve this church-wide problem on their own
19. Proposed LAM Strategy:
Shared Ministry, Services &
Governance
1. Reduce duplication of worship preparation
2. Develop programs for families & engage
communities to grow the congregations
3. Increase cooperation among paid leaders, lay
leaders & congregations, English & French
4. Maintain individual pastoral charge buildings,
identity, governance & ownership of resources
20. How?
Shared Worship Leadership
Worship Coordinator Minister (1 full time)
Lay Worship leaders:
Gail Hocquard,
Stephane Godbout,
Kelley Molloy,
François Frenza,
Retired Minister:
Georgia Copland
Other Guest leaders as necessary
21. How?
Shared Community Ministry
Family and French Coordinator Minister (1 full time)
Family ministry programs;
French ministry throughout the LAM;
community engagement to identify how to follow God's
calling in the community and who to partner with
22. How? Shared Services
LAM Web Site
◦Promote building rentals & weddings; provide LAM &
congregation information
Central Admin Support
◦Central phone for initial rental requests & information;
scheduling, bulletins (48 hrs / month)
Central Salary Management
◦payment of minister salaries & benefits, deal with UCC
ADP system
◦All other treasurer functions handled locally
25. Sharing of Costs
1. Local Costs
2. Common Costs
3. Grants
4. Shared Fund Raising
26. How did we get here?
Initial conversations led by Wendy MacLean and
ministerial staff.
EDGE Consultant hired to Montreal presbytery December
2014
January online meeting to gather data
January meeting for all interested to assess situation and
to dream
Asked for commitment to continue discussion
27. How did we get here?
Feb – May Working group established with electronic
meetings to identify
Descriptions of ministry positions
Possible cost sharing models
Shared administration possibilities
Timeline
Consultation with French-language ministry teams
28. How did we get here?
June meeting with all to review and adapt each element
of the proposal
produce “marketing” material for congregations
Applied for funding from Presbytery
29. How did we get here?
October shared worship service, meal and Q and A session
Treasurers produce detailed financial model
Each congregation held a congregational meeting
Consultation with Presbytery about governance structure
Consultation with Presbytery about Personnel issues
November: provisional approval by Montreal Presbytery
January: first General Meeting of LAM
30. Lessons Learned
Active participation by Ministerial staff was critical for
trust and support
EDGE Consultant provided outside perspective and able to
do some of the leg work.
Combined viability report across congregations
highlighted the challenges and that they were all in the
same situation
Building community was crucial.
31. Lessons Learned
Detailed financial plan developed with congregation
Treasurers lent credibility and trust
No discussion of amalgamation or closing churches –
avoided major contention.
Key issues were Worship scheduling, language, and
finances.
Presbytery was supportive but stood back to allow
congregations to develop own plan.
32. Body of Christ together
◦Critical mass- more spiritual gifts to share
◦Understand the needs of our neighbours
◦Yearning to feel the divine
We believe that by joining together we will find a
voice to express the sense of soul and the life
spiritual, a voice that will replace an unthinking
secularism.
Thank you for inviting us to speak about this exciting new ministry, formed from 9 tiny churches in the Laurentian area, north of Montreal. In English, we call ourselves the LAMs
.
What is LAM.. You might well ask
Laurentian Area ministries
A bit of a joke
But after 4 years of dreaming, of conversation, of challenges, of argument,
Last month, we people of Christ in the Laurentians decided that we were a
Ministry
Instead of 9 Ministries…
And it was these crazies, filled with the Spirit..
Cathy Maybe you’ve been to some of these churches.
Cathy Or these ones
Cathy Do you notice a similarity…We are almost all little white rural churches really out in the country
Cathy While we love our buildings, we prefer to think of ourselves like this though.
Cathy Or like this
We are young and old, we are French and English, we are conservative and a-theist, we are rooted in the Laurentians and new retirees, we are hopeful and skeptical.
We are the United Church
Cathy We are the Laurentian Area ministries. Nous sommes le ministère régional des Laurentides
Vera Young will tell you about where we are (were)
I’ll come back and tell you about the vision
Gail Hocquard will tell you about our journey
And Marion will witness to the Body of Christ among us.
And then, we’ll take questions
Vera; IN January 2015 we were in a very serious situation – staff leaving –Fred and Libby had already retired, Lee-ann had been ordained and called, Georgia was retiring, Johanne’s funding was ending. Cathy was appointed year by year.
With the help of Edge consultant (hired by the presbytery to help us) we assessed our situation.
RED – a small number worship in their building – They want to preserve their building as part of the community
GREEN – approx 20 or more in worship – generally broader age distribution
YELLOW – in between – low worship – broader age distribution –
Ste. Adele seemed to be growing slowly but has no reserves
Vera And we are challenged by distance.
For example it is nearly an hour to drive from one end to the other in any direction. Mostly because you can’t go through the middle. And all of that is at least another 45 minutes from Montreal.
We also have similar challenges to those you find everywhere:
small ageing congregations
limited energy
community buildings supported by a small number of people
growing french opportunity with out facility in the french language
You’ve seen these statistics before- decline decline decline everywhere
We need to recognize that we are in a time of great transition something is giving way, and something new is coming into being, the question is how will we respond.
Cathy: Et nous avons partagé tout cela avec nos communautés de foi
En effait nous avons appris qu’il faut soit continuer comme nous sommes, décroitre et fermer ou
Prendre les riszues d’etre pertinent en cooperer pour partager.
Cathy: At the end of the January meeting, we agreed that if nothing is done, closure is inevitable. But we also discovered some great learning as we sat together, as we shared.
Arundel has some great fund-raising ideas
Cushing has renovated its historic building and is planning an anniversary fair.
Morin Heights is great at engaging the community. You should go to Cosy Corner’s 25th anniversary this summer.
Ste Adele is a lively place with french-speaking families that have chosen to be part of the United Church. They speak evangelism with enthusiasm. And boy is the music great!
Shawbridge is becoming bilingual as they engage with their neighbours.
And so on
So we identified two issues we could address
Cathy: Grow the congregations – English and French – don’t just manage the decline and closure of congregations
Reduce duplication of worship preparation
Focus on develop programs for families & engage communities to grow the congregations
Increase cooperation among paid leaders, lay leaders & congregations, English & French
Maintain individual pastoral charge buildings, identity, governance & ownership of resources
Cathy: More specifically and this has already started.
Meet each season each having prepared a worship service and share our work. Not exactly the same, but base of work done.
Cathy: Lead development of programs . Also share in worship leadership and pastoral care as necessary
Cathy: share promotion through the website for weddings, rentals and programs
Share admin support
Share salary management
Cathy:
But of course sharing cost was a sticking point:
Local Costs – each congregation pays its local costs (e.g. building mtce. & utilities)
Common Costs – each congregation will give the balance of its income to a shared ministry fund. To the extent that there is a shortfall, each community will pay its share according to its relative wealth, its investments.
Grants- Montreal Presbytery $50,000 each year for 3 years. $10,600 start up from United Church Foundation. Applied to Erskine and American for project support.
Gail:
We created and managed to maintain momentum.
We started with conversations among ministerial staff with Wendy MacLean in the fall of 2012
After a few false starts, in December 2014 Montreal Presbytery hired Bob Richards, an Edge Consultant to help manage the process.
We met online to gather data and then in person in January 2015
And we asked for a commitment from each congregation to continue the discussion
Gail: Between February and May a working group worked through a series of issues mostly through online meetings:
ministry positions
cost sharing
sharing administration
They established a timeline so that we could have work done in time for the presbytery committees that need to approve it.
And they consulted with the various French-language ministry teams.
Gail: In June we held a general meeting to review each element of the proposal
We decided to produce material so that the congregations could study the idea over the summer
And we applied for funding from Presbytery and from the United Church foundation
Gail
Here is where we get to the real hard stuff
In October, having shared the information with the congregations, we met for shared worship, a meal (of course) and a question and answer session
The treasurers met together to clarify the finances
Each congregation held an official meeting and voted.
We consulted with Presbytery about governance sturcture and personnel issues
In November, we had provisional approval by the Montreal Presbytery
Although not everyone was in agreement, all 9 congregations voted by majority to join LAM.
And in January 2016 we had our first ever General Meeting of LAM
Cathy:
What did we learn
Leadership is critical
Bob Richards is a hero and Edge was invaluable
The viability report was a great place to start but learning each other’s names
Being community was critical
That is incarnation. That is God among us.
Cathy: The money needs to be right
Honouring the buildings as symbols of the roots in each community was important
Worship scheduling, language and finances were hot topics
Presbytery support was invaluable- particularly as we came up against procedures that are not built for regional ministries- Heather McClure, Marc Grenon, Fred Braman
We are not done, we are just beginning. Every task will bring us up against the institution,
Who calls a meeting when there is no Chair, and it is the meeting that will elect a chair?
Who establishes how people will be paid when it is those among us who are being paid?
The Spirit will not be tamed by the rules of the institution… and yet
It is important for all us to see the Spirit active among us, for us to perceive the Spirit inviting us into newness. I’m always one to stretch the limits…my dad, Of blessed memory, would tell you give her an inch, she’ll take a mile.
Before I go to far…
Marion:
Whether the focus is on family, on green church, on justice issues, it all comes back to being the Body of Christ together
and
We are hoping that together we will have more critical mass, more spiritual gifts to share
If LAM is to succeed, we need to trust in becoming active listeners and observers.
By meeting others more than halfway, through church sponsored/supported events and projects, everyone gains a sense of community.
Becoming a community offers greater possibilities of understanding the needs of our neighbours
and
We believe that there is a deeply felt but unexpressed yearning of the spirit to feel the divine, to feel that one is part of something larger than oneself.
and
We believe that among other benefits of being a church for the community at large, there will be those who will find a voice to express that sense of the soul and the life spiritual, one that will replace an unthinking secularism.