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GeekOn Discussion:
Local Disk vs ‘The SAN’
          for
      VDI Storage
   Ron Oglesby @ronoglesby #GeekOn
Agenda
 Who cares about this session anyway?
   Why is disk so important in VDI?

   What are the key concepts to understand about VDI and
   Storage
 Then…
   Why Local Storage rules for VDI

   Why Local Storage Blows and You should ONLY use SAN
   storage for VDI
Disk for Desktops? Who cares?
 How many disks does it take to support   25 desktops?
Disk IO Understanding Limitations




Some References!

http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/datacenter/calc
ulate-iops-in-a-storage-array/2182

http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2009/12/23/iops/
Desktop IO Requirements?
 Read:Write ratio can be as high as 50:50
   60:40 to 70:30 is typical

 Light Users = 4-5 IOps

 Medium Users = 8-10       IOps
 Heavy Users = 14-20     IOps
 So if you have 50 medium users 400-500     Sustained IOps
 So if you have 75 users/server? 750 IO? 4 disks before
  RAID penalty?! 8-10 or more after penalty?
 But what about boot / login storms?
Boot/Login Storms
 At boot and login IO can be extreme
   Even a medium user can generate 90-100 IO at login (why is
   that 100 IO a ‘magic’ number?)
   Boot storms can be even worse

 The “good” thing about a boot storm is that it is
 typically 90% Read!
   No RAID penalty

   Caching Helps

 Still must be planned for.
Disk Costs and VDI
 Dell 143 GB SAS 15K SAS Drive = $

 Dell 100 GB SSD Drive =$$

 EqualLogic SAS drives $$

 EqualLogic SATA drives = $

 EqualLogic SSD drives= $$$

 Windows 7 “Thick Provisioned”   20-35GB
 Windows 7 Linked-Clone     = 8-10GB
Local Storage is the Solution
       to this Problem
Local Storage
 Start with these questions:

   How many of you boot your normal desktops from
   the SAN?
   How many of you boot your terminal servers from
   the SAN?
   How many of you have an extremely short SLA on
   recovering your desktops?
Why do people talk down local DAS
 Storage companies make a lot of money selling
   centralized disk and the software around it. More
   power to them!
 Hypervisor’s “BIG” features require centralized
   storage- helps push all that higher end licensing
 Tools supplied by hypervisor vendors don’t work
   without centralized storage.




Copyright © 2010 Unidesk Corporation. All Rights Reserved. www.unidesk.com
Local Storage is about Perf vs Cost
 Dell PCs can cost as little as $350!

 Performance requirements require High end disk

 Writable GB cost local vs SAN (SAS 15k)

   RAID 1 143GB Drives $5/GB – SAN 15K $10-30/GB

 Writable GB cost local vs SAN (SSD)

   RAID 1 143GB Drives $5/GB – SAN SSD $30-70/GB

 Why pay for centralized storage for a desktop?!
That’s ALL BS
SAN is the Solution to this
         Problem
       Local Storage is too limiting
Things this guy isn't telling you!
 HA, DRS, FT, E-I, E-I –OH…. Not available with local
  disk!
 You might not even have enough spindles!
 Local/CHEAP SSD isn't that great.
 IO can be handle cost effectively on the SAN
 Storage Tiering/Data movement all but impossible
  with local disk
 Dynamic Capacity/Cloud? Not happening with local
  disk.



Copyright © 2010 Unidesk Corporation. All Rights Reserved. www.unidesk.com
All the features you love…
 Do I really need to detail them all?

 HA

 DRS

 FT

 SRM

 Storage vMotion

 Etc

 Etc
Spindle Count???
 50 users per server at 20 IO each= 1000   Iops
 100 users/server @ 10…

 Boot / Login Storms?

 RAID Penalty for writes?
 DL 360’s have 6 drive bays. 15K drives at 180 IO each
   1080 IOps before RAID penalty?

 Are you a Blade shop?

 Probably wont even get enough spindles    in a server
“Cheap” SSD Issues
 So you move to SSD instead of rotating disk…

 $$$$ 149 GB SSD on Dell 610 $4,599.00

 $$ 100 GB SSD on Dell 610 $1,949.00

 Compare to 146GB at $359    on the same server.
 Can you even get enough writable space on those
 SSD?


 Better to use SSD for just hot data rather than all data
Handle the IO with mixed disks
 Leverage Hybrid Arrays
   EqualLogic XVS

   EMC FAST Systems



 SSD / EFD can be used for HOT data

 Smart systems will MOVE the data

 Can also be used for writes!
What about that whole Dynamic Cloud?
 Data Tiering
   About placing data on the type of disk it NEEDS. Not fixed
   provisioning
   Moving data from slow, to fast to REALLY fast disks

   Only moving small parts of data not whole VMDKs?!?!

 Elasticity in the VM environment
   Dynamic increases/decreases in capacity

   Provisioning times increase – sometimes dramatically

   Recovery and flexibility in the toilet
So what does Unidesk think?
 We don’t care….

 So what to we do?
 roglesby@unidesk.com

 @ronoglesby




Copyright © 2010 Unidesk Corporation. All Rights Reserved. www.unidesk.com
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Get Your GeekOn With Ron - Session Two: Local Storage vs Centralized Storage Models

  • 1. GeekOn Discussion: Local Disk vs ‘The SAN’ for VDI Storage Ron Oglesby @ronoglesby #GeekOn
  • 2. Agenda  Who cares about this session anyway?  Why is disk so important in VDI?  What are the key concepts to understand about VDI and Storage  Then…  Why Local Storage rules for VDI  Why Local Storage Blows and You should ONLY use SAN storage for VDI
  • 3. Disk for Desktops? Who cares?  How many disks does it take to support 25 desktops?
  • 4. Disk IO Understanding Limitations Some References! http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/datacenter/calc ulate-iops-in-a-storage-array/2182 http://www.yellow-bricks.com/2009/12/23/iops/
  • 5. Desktop IO Requirements?  Read:Write ratio can be as high as 50:50  60:40 to 70:30 is typical  Light Users = 4-5 IOps  Medium Users = 8-10 IOps  Heavy Users = 14-20 IOps  So if you have 50 medium users 400-500 Sustained IOps  So if you have 75 users/server? 750 IO? 4 disks before RAID penalty?! 8-10 or more after penalty?  But what about boot / login storms?
  • 6. Boot/Login Storms  At boot and login IO can be extreme  Even a medium user can generate 90-100 IO at login (why is that 100 IO a ‘magic’ number?)  Boot storms can be even worse  The “good” thing about a boot storm is that it is typically 90% Read!  No RAID penalty  Caching Helps  Still must be planned for.
  • 7. Disk Costs and VDI  Dell 143 GB SAS 15K SAS Drive = $  Dell 100 GB SSD Drive =$$  EqualLogic SAS drives $$  EqualLogic SATA drives = $  EqualLogic SSD drives= $$$  Windows 7 “Thick Provisioned” 20-35GB  Windows 7 Linked-Clone = 8-10GB
  • 8. Local Storage is the Solution to this Problem
  • 9. Local Storage  Start with these questions:  How many of you boot your normal desktops from the SAN?  How many of you boot your terminal servers from the SAN?  How many of you have an extremely short SLA on recovering your desktops?
  • 10. Why do people talk down local DAS  Storage companies make a lot of money selling centralized disk and the software around it. More power to them!  Hypervisor’s “BIG” features require centralized storage- helps push all that higher end licensing  Tools supplied by hypervisor vendors don’t work without centralized storage. Copyright © 2010 Unidesk Corporation. All Rights Reserved. www.unidesk.com
  • 11. Local Storage is about Perf vs Cost  Dell PCs can cost as little as $350!  Performance requirements require High end disk  Writable GB cost local vs SAN (SAS 15k)  RAID 1 143GB Drives $5/GB – SAN 15K $10-30/GB  Writable GB cost local vs SAN (SSD)  RAID 1 143GB Drives $5/GB – SAN SSD $30-70/GB  Why pay for centralized storage for a desktop?!
  • 12. That’s ALL BS SAN is the Solution to this Problem Local Storage is too limiting
  • 13. Things this guy isn't telling you!  HA, DRS, FT, E-I, E-I –OH…. Not available with local disk!  You might not even have enough spindles!  Local/CHEAP SSD isn't that great.  IO can be handle cost effectively on the SAN  Storage Tiering/Data movement all but impossible with local disk  Dynamic Capacity/Cloud? Not happening with local disk. Copyright © 2010 Unidesk Corporation. All Rights Reserved. www.unidesk.com
  • 14. All the features you love…  Do I really need to detail them all?  HA  DRS  FT  SRM  Storage vMotion  Etc  Etc
  • 15. Spindle Count???  50 users per server at 20 IO each= 1000 Iops  100 users/server @ 10…  Boot / Login Storms?  RAID Penalty for writes?  DL 360’s have 6 drive bays. 15K drives at 180 IO each  1080 IOps before RAID penalty?  Are you a Blade shop?  Probably wont even get enough spindles in a server
  • 16. “Cheap” SSD Issues  So you move to SSD instead of rotating disk…  $$$$ 149 GB SSD on Dell 610 $4,599.00  $$ 100 GB SSD on Dell 610 $1,949.00  Compare to 146GB at $359 on the same server.  Can you even get enough writable space on those SSD?  Better to use SSD for just hot data rather than all data
  • 17. Handle the IO with mixed disks  Leverage Hybrid Arrays  EqualLogic XVS  EMC FAST Systems  SSD / EFD can be used for HOT data  Smart systems will MOVE the data  Can also be used for writes!
  • 18. What about that whole Dynamic Cloud?  Data Tiering  About placing data on the type of disk it NEEDS. Not fixed provisioning  Moving data from slow, to fast to REALLY fast disks  Only moving small parts of data not whole VMDKs?!?!  Elasticity in the VM environment  Dynamic increases/decreases in capacity  Provisioning times increase – sometimes dramatically  Recovery and flexibility in the toilet
  • 19. So what does Unidesk think?  We don’t care….  So what to we do?
  • 20.  roglesby@unidesk.com  @ronoglesby Copyright © 2010 Unidesk Corporation. All Rights Reserved. www.unidesk.com