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IPv6 at Home 
Nathalie Trenaman 
Netnod Autumn Meeting 2014
How it started 
• Being an IPv6 trainer since 2009 
• Benjamins hobby is domotics 
• Time to put our money where our mouth is 
- But how much money? 
- Can we do with v6 what we do with v4?
How it was
Some specs 
• UPC 20 Mbit/s* 
• Netgear WNR3500U/L wifi AP (standard firmware)* 
• Switch Sitecom 8 ports 
• 1 vlan to XBMC Media Center with antenna for “klik 
aan klik uit” RFXtrx433 USB tranceiver 
• Media Center ASRock ION 330 running XBMCbuntu 
• Netgear ReadyNAS RND4000 4 disks each 1.5T* 
• Webcam D-Link* 
• Printer Epson Stylus SX515W*
First challenges 
• UPC Cable 20 Mbit/s gives only IPv4 over DHCP 
- But we need the speed 
• XS4ALL ADSL 8 Mbit/s IPv4/IPv6 dual stack (PPPoA) 
- only 8 Mbit/s because of distance to the DSLAM 
• The default XS4ALL Fritz!box 7360 could not 
Multi-WAN 
- Lots of suggestions from Eric van Uden from AVM! 
- Supposedly works with Freetz (freetz.org) but seemed hassle ;)
..So then what? 
The next idea was to use the 
ASRock ION 330 as a firewall/ 
router with PFSense. 
! 
IPv6 support on PFSense is still 
in Beta and when we tried it, it 
was broken. 
! 
We contacted the developer, 
offered a testbed, but without 
result.
First challenge solved 
• OpenWrt Barrier Breaker on the 
Netgear WNR3500U 
- Supports Multi-WAN 
- Bridge 
- Firewalls 
- DHCPv6-PD works 
- IPv4 traffic is load balanced
IPv6 
/48 Guest WiFi 
Home WiFi 
IPv4 
IPv4 
/64 /64
Update 2014 
• UPC got upgraded to 50 Mbit/s 
• We subscribed for the “friendly customers 
IPv6-trial” 
• DS-Lite (public IPv6/private IPv4) 
• Separate modem - no firewall 
! 
• Not received the modem yet…..
SLAAC vs DHCPv6 
• We tried DHCPv6 but found our main 
devices didn’t have (decent) support 
- Mac OSX 10.6.8 
- Android 4.2.2 
- Windows7 
• So we sticked to SLAAC (for now)
Easy step: Media 
• We have a Raspberry Pi in every room 
- serving as a media center 
- running Raspbmc 
• Raspberry Pi and Raspbmc support IPv6 
- Raspbmc was not stable enough 
- Moved to OpenELEC
The NAS 
• Netgear ReadyNAS RND4000 
- No IPv6 support ever 
- Time for an upgrade anyway ;) 
• Homebuilt PC, ASRock Motherboard 
• Ubuntu with ZFS 
• Costs: 550 Euro Hardware and 200 
Euro disks
Mission Thermostat 
• 2 Years ago, we bought a new thermostat 
• Decided to buy Heatmiser PRT-WS WiFi 
• 164 Euro 
• Nice apps 
• But no IPv6?! 
• So, we contacted the support desk 
• No IPv6 support on the roadmap
Tado works 
• Difficult to find an IPv6 capable thermostat 
• German company Tado has one 
• Doesn’t ship to NL yet 
• Uses Thingsquare Mist (open source 
software for IoT) 
• 99 Euro Per Year (wait....what?)
Tado 2014 
• In April Tado started shipping to NL 
• New option to buy Tado: 250 Euro 
• So….we bought it 
• Supposedly runs 6LoWPAN between 
gateway and thermostat 
• But no IPv6 from gateway to Tado servers 
• wait…..what?!
Tado 2014 
• No manual control, app only 
• Needs internet connectivity for heating 
• But no IPv6 on the roadmap?! 
! 
• We sent back the thermostat…. 
• Back to Heatmiser, next up is Nest
I Spy: the Front Door 
• D-Link IP webcam at front door (no IPv6) 
- sends pictures to e-mail 
- if door bel is pressed, a picture is taken and 
sent to private Twitter account with message: 
“the doorbel rang”
IPv6 at the door 
• Logitech USB webcam (cheap, no IP) 
• Raspberry Pi 
- running Raspbian 
• Twitter and Twitter API don’t do IPv6! 
• Tweets are still sent over IPv4 
• Looking at relay to unlock door over IPv6 
- Possibly with NFC key
Webcam works over 
IPv6 
(We don’t have street visibility anymore!)
IPv6 lights! 
6 
Our energy supplier offers 
IPv6 capable lights 
! 
So, we bought them: 
2 bulbs and a “gateway” for 
129 Euro 
Plus an “e-manager” for 2,95 
Euro per month!
Light specs 
Theory: 
Practice: We didn’t get it to work over IPv6 
(sent an e-mail to GreenWaveReality)
From their website
IPv6 Lights 
• Same story as Tado really.. 
• So (supposedly) 6LoWPAN between the 
device and the gateway, but no IPv6 from 
the gateway to the Greenwave servers. 
• Greenwave does not give support to end-users 
• Energy supplier doesn’t know about IPv6
Why do these 
IoT devices 
only work in 
the cloud?!
How it is
To do 
• Boblight over IPv6 
• Buy a new printer 
• Much more.....
Lessons learned 
• IPv6 in your house is not cheap 
• There is a lot of manual labour involved 
• Thank Goodness for Open Source! 
• Vendors of commercial “home” products are 
not even aware of IPv6 
• Not everything with IPv4 can be done with IPv6
Thank you! 
me@natha.info

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IPv6 at Home -2014

  • 1. IPv6 at Home Nathalie Trenaman Netnod Autumn Meeting 2014
  • 2. How it started • Being an IPv6 trainer since 2009 • Benjamins hobby is domotics • Time to put our money where our mouth is - But how much money? - Can we do with v6 what we do with v4?
  • 4. Some specs • UPC 20 Mbit/s* • Netgear WNR3500U/L wifi AP (standard firmware)* • Switch Sitecom 8 ports • 1 vlan to XBMC Media Center with antenna for “klik aan klik uit” RFXtrx433 USB tranceiver • Media Center ASRock ION 330 running XBMCbuntu • Netgear ReadyNAS RND4000 4 disks each 1.5T* • Webcam D-Link* • Printer Epson Stylus SX515W*
  • 5. First challenges • UPC Cable 20 Mbit/s gives only IPv4 over DHCP - But we need the speed • XS4ALL ADSL 8 Mbit/s IPv4/IPv6 dual stack (PPPoA) - only 8 Mbit/s because of distance to the DSLAM • The default XS4ALL Fritz!box 7360 could not Multi-WAN - Lots of suggestions from Eric van Uden from AVM! - Supposedly works with Freetz (freetz.org) but seemed hassle ;)
  • 6. ..So then what? The next idea was to use the ASRock ION 330 as a firewall/ router with PFSense. ! IPv6 support on PFSense is still in Beta and when we tried it, it was broken. ! We contacted the developer, offered a testbed, but without result.
  • 7. First challenge solved • OpenWrt Barrier Breaker on the Netgear WNR3500U - Supports Multi-WAN - Bridge - Firewalls - DHCPv6-PD works - IPv4 traffic is load balanced
  • 8. IPv6 /48 Guest WiFi Home WiFi IPv4 IPv4 /64 /64
  • 9. Update 2014 • UPC got upgraded to 50 Mbit/s • We subscribed for the “friendly customers IPv6-trial” • DS-Lite (public IPv6/private IPv4) • Separate modem - no firewall ! • Not received the modem yet…..
  • 10. SLAAC vs DHCPv6 • We tried DHCPv6 but found our main devices didn’t have (decent) support - Mac OSX 10.6.8 - Android 4.2.2 - Windows7 • So we sticked to SLAAC (for now)
  • 11. Easy step: Media • We have a Raspberry Pi in every room - serving as a media center - running Raspbmc • Raspberry Pi and Raspbmc support IPv6 - Raspbmc was not stable enough - Moved to OpenELEC
  • 12. The NAS • Netgear ReadyNAS RND4000 - No IPv6 support ever - Time for an upgrade anyway ;) • Homebuilt PC, ASRock Motherboard • Ubuntu with ZFS • Costs: 550 Euro Hardware and 200 Euro disks
  • 13. Mission Thermostat • 2 Years ago, we bought a new thermostat • Decided to buy Heatmiser PRT-WS WiFi • 164 Euro • Nice apps • But no IPv6?! • So, we contacted the support desk • No IPv6 support on the roadmap
  • 14. Tado works • Difficult to find an IPv6 capable thermostat • German company Tado has one • Doesn’t ship to NL yet • Uses Thingsquare Mist (open source software for IoT) • 99 Euro Per Year (wait....what?)
  • 15. Tado 2014 • In April Tado started shipping to NL • New option to buy Tado: 250 Euro • So….we bought it • Supposedly runs 6LoWPAN between gateway and thermostat • But no IPv6 from gateway to Tado servers • wait…..what?!
  • 16. Tado 2014 • No manual control, app only • Needs internet connectivity for heating • But no IPv6 on the roadmap?! ! • We sent back the thermostat…. • Back to Heatmiser, next up is Nest
  • 17. I Spy: the Front Door • D-Link IP webcam at front door (no IPv6) - sends pictures to e-mail - if door bel is pressed, a picture is taken and sent to private Twitter account with message: “the doorbel rang”
  • 18. IPv6 at the door • Logitech USB webcam (cheap, no IP) • Raspberry Pi - running Raspbian • Twitter and Twitter API don’t do IPv6! • Tweets are still sent over IPv4 • Looking at relay to unlock door over IPv6 - Possibly with NFC key
  • 19. Webcam works over IPv6 (We don’t have street visibility anymore!)
  • 20. IPv6 lights! 6 Our energy supplier offers IPv6 capable lights ! So, we bought them: 2 bulbs and a “gateway” for 129 Euro Plus an “e-manager” for 2,95 Euro per month!
  • 21. Light specs Theory: Practice: We didn’t get it to work over IPv6 (sent an e-mail to GreenWaveReality)
  • 23. IPv6 Lights • Same story as Tado really.. • So (supposedly) 6LoWPAN between the device and the gateway, but no IPv6 from the gateway to the Greenwave servers. • Greenwave does not give support to end-users • Energy supplier doesn’t know about IPv6
  • 24. Why do these IoT devices only work in the cloud?!
  • 26. To do • Boblight over IPv6 • Buy a new printer • Much more.....
  • 27. Lessons learned • IPv6 in your house is not cheap • There is a lot of manual labour involved • Thank Goodness for Open Source! • Vendors of commercial “home” products are not even aware of IPv6 • Not everything with IPv4 can be done with IPv6