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The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Introductions
ITAM	
  Intelligence	
  
What	
  we	
  do:	
  
§  ‘Future	
  Ready’	
  SAM	
  and	
  ITAM	
  Strategy	
  
Assessments	
  
§  For	
  clients	
  who	
  need	
  to	
  make	
  sure	
  their	
  SAM	
  and	
  
ITAM	
  is	
  fit	
  for	
  the	
  future	
  
Kylie	
  Fowler	
  –	
  Principal	
  Consultant	
  
Specialising	
  in:	
  
§  Develop	
  and	
  implement	
  IT	
  asset	
  management	
  
strategies	
  and	
  frameworks	
  
§  Coach	
  and	
  mentor	
  ITAM	
  pracEEoners	
  
§  Manage	
  audit	
  defence	
  &	
  lead	
  vendor	
  negoEaEons	
  
§  Mergers	
  &	
  acquisiEons	
  advice	
  and	
  support	
  
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Vendor Negotiations in a
Cloudy World
Kylie Fowler, Principle Consultant
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
“I get a sinking feeling….
….it’s	
  Nick	
  the	
  Beard.	
  
	
  
Nick	
  is	
  some	
  sort	
  of	
  technical	
  officer	
  from	
  CESG…	
  he	
  drops	
  round	
  
the	
  Laundry	
  every	
  so	
  o=en	
  to	
  make	
  sure	
  all	
  our	
  so=ware	
  is	
  
licensed	
  and	
  we’re	
  only	
  running	
  validated	
  COTS	
  so=ware	
  
purchased	
  via	
  approved	
  suppliers.	
  Which	
  is	
  why,	
  whenever	
  we	
  
get	
  word	
  that	
  he’s	
  about	
  to	
  visit,	
  I	
  have	
  to	
  run	
  around	
  rebooHng	
  
servers	
  like	
  crazy	
  and	
  loading	
  the	
  padded	
  cell	
  environments	
  we	
  
keep	
  around	
  purely	
  to	
  placate	
  CESG	
  so	
  they	
  don’t	
  blacklist	
  our	
  IT	
  
processes	
  and	
  get	
  our	
  budget	
  lopped	
  off	
  at	
  the	
  knees.	
  
Despite	
  that,	
  Nick	
  is	
  basically	
  OK,	
  which	
  is	
  why	
  I	
  get	
  the	
  sinking	
  
feeling;	
  I	
  don’t	
  enjoy	
  treaHng	
  nice	
  guys	
  like	
  they’re	
  agents	
  of	
  satan	
  
or	
  Microso=	
  salesmen.”	
  
The	
  Atrocity	
  Archives,	
  Charles	
  Stross,	
  ©2004	
  
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Our world is changing
Moving away from on-premise ‘Commercial Off The
Shelf’ (COTS) software
•  Perpetual licenses
•  Capitalised over 3 or 5 years
•  Use forever
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Our world is changing
We’re moving to a new world of ‘as-a-Service’
•  Consume only what you need (in theory)
•  Pay for only what you use (in theory)
•  Costs are paid from operating expense accounts
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
CAPEX hasn’t gone away
(Mostly	
  
Theirs)	
  
Networks	
  
Physical	
  Servers	
  
Virtual	
  Machines	
  
Databases	
  &	
  ApplicaEons	
  
Client	
  Interface	
  
Physical	
  End	
  Points	
  
End	
  Users	
  
(Mostly	
  	
  
Opex)	
  
(Capex)	
  
(Opex)	
  
(Ours)	
  
Networks	
  
Physical	
  Servers	
  
Virtual	
  Machines	
  
Databases	
  &	
  ApplicaEons	
  
Client	
  Interface	
  
Physical	
  End	
  Points	
  
End	
  Users	
  
(Opex)	
  
(Capex)	
  
(Opex)	
  
(Probably	
  
Ours)	
  
(Theirs)	
  
(Mostly	
  
Theirs)	
  
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
What does this mean for Vendors?
Vendors	
  pretend	
  economies	
  
of	
  scale	
  exist	
  
Economies	
  of	
  scale	
  are	
  real	
  
Vendors	
  can	
  only	
  guess	
  at	
  the	
  true	
  value	
  
of	
  the	
  soZware	
  for	
  the	
  customer	
  
Vendors	
  can	
  see	
  exactly	
  how	
  the	
  
soZware	
  is	
  used	
  
Vendors	
  don’t	
  need	
  to	
  worry	
  if	
  the	
  
soZware	
  isn’t	
  used	
  
It’s	
  vital	
  the	
  soZware	
  is	
  used	
  
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
What does this mean for Customers?
Sweat	
  assets	
  to	
  significantly	
  
reduce	
  costs	
  
We	
  can’t	
  sweat	
  nuffin’	
  
No	
  need	
  to	
  switch	
  anything	
  off	
   Cost	
  savings	
  can	
  only	
  come	
  from	
  
switching	
  stuff	
  off	
  
There	
  was	
  li]le	
  need	
  to	
  balance	
  
business	
  value	
  to	
  costs	
  
We	
  must	
  balance	
  business	
  value	
  vs	
  cost	
  so	
  
the	
  business	
  can	
  decide	
  what	
  to	
  switch	
  off	
  	
  	
  
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Where’s the negotiation?
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
How does this affect negotiations?
Demonstrate commitment to deploy
•  Share your migration programme business case
•  Seek to negotiate non-monetary benefits that support migration
efforts
Be prepared to make volume commitments
•  Remember – economies of scale are real!
•  But commit ONLY if you know you will use the services!
The Vendor will know your business inside and out
•  Seek to align costs to value eg cost per transaction; cost per unit of
storage etc
•  This may be a drawback if you don’t understand the value of the
software to your own organisation
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Who needs to be involved?
The	
  Business	
  
•  Who	
  will	
  access?	
  
•  How	
  many	
  people	
  /	
  transacEons	
  etc	
  
•  How	
  will	
  users	
  access	
  the	
  service?	
  
•  What	
  up-­‐Eme	
  does	
  the	
  business	
  require?	
  
•  What	
  type	
  of	
  data	
  will	
  be	
  put	
  in	
  the	
  cloud?	
  
•  Regulatory	
  requirements	
  
•  Exit	
  plan	
  
IT	
  
•  SLAs	
  
•  Bandwidth	
  requirements	
  
•  Browser	
  /	
  device	
  requirements	
  
•  Firewall,	
  idenEty	
  management	
  and	
  
AD	
  issues	
  
•  Deployment	
  plan	
  
•  Technical	
  &	
  financial	
  business	
  case	
  
•  SoZware	
  licensing	
  
•  Exit	
  plan	
  
InformaEon	
  Security	
  
&	
  Legal	
  
•  Data	
  residency	
  
•  Public	
  vs	
  private	
  vs	
  on-­‐prem	
  
•  GDPR	
  concerns	
  
•  Data	
  retenEon	
  requirements	
  
•  Escrow	
  agreements	
  
•  How	
  oZen	
  can	
  you	
  ‘true-­‐down’	
  to	
  
reduce	
  costs	
  
•  Liability	
  and	
  indemnificaEon	
  
•  Exit	
  plan	
  
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
What else do you need to think about?
Negotiate with the end in mind
•  You will have no leverage in subsequent negotiations if you don’t
have a BATNA (Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement)
•  Consider what you need to include in the contract NOW to give
you a decent BATNA when the contract expires
-  Termination periods
-  T&Cs relating to data retention and export
Drive down the price as far as possible in your first contract
•  It will set a benchmark for follow-on deals
•  Negotiate a limit (eg RPI plus 2%) for price increases each year
and / or on renewal
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
What else?
Understand your growth plans
•  Negotiate price holds / price holidays to avoid escalating costs for
longer deployments
-  What is the impact on the business case?!
•  Negotiate tiered discounts for higher consumption levels
What happens when business is bad?
•  Ensure you can decrease costs promptly if usage decreases
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Gotchas
BYOL T&Cs may change dramatically over time
•  Vendors generally favour their own cloud
•  You need to build flexibility into your BYOL estate
Poor deployment controls
•  Vendor portals may have
expensive ‘default’ options which
can dramatically increase costs
Double licensing during migration
•  Can you negotiate this away?
•  What would be the impact of
delays on the business case?
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Managing Risks
As-a-Service provider goes out of business
•  Consider escrow options
•  How quickly would you be able to get your
data out?
Data Security
•  Most major vendors are as secure, if not
more so than on premise solutions
•  Make sure there are adequate back-up and
business continuity arrangements
Data residency
•  What data will be held on the platform?
•  Where can that data be located?
Legacy Interactions
•  How will the XaaS interact with existing on prem infrastructure?
•  Don’t get caught out by the equivalent of Diageo’s indirect usage!
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Book Recommendations
Thinking of.... Buying a Cloud Solution?
•  Ian Gotts & Stephen Parker 2009
Getting to Yes: Negotiating an agreement without giving in
•  Roger Fisher & William Ury 2011 (3rd edition)
The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017
Comments and Thoughts?
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ITAM UK 2017 Vendor negotiations in a cloudy world_Kylie Fowler

  • 1. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Introductions ITAM  Intelligence   What  we  do:   §  ‘Future  Ready’  SAM  and  ITAM  Strategy   Assessments   §  For  clients  who  need  to  make  sure  their  SAM  and   ITAM  is  fit  for  the  future   Kylie  Fowler  –  Principal  Consultant   Specialising  in:   §  Develop  and  implement  IT  asset  management   strategies  and  frameworks   §  Coach  and  mentor  ITAM  pracEEoners   §  Manage  audit  defence  &  lead  vendor  negoEaEons   §  Mergers  &  acquisiEons  advice  and  support  
  • 2. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Vendor Negotiations in a Cloudy World Kylie Fowler, Principle Consultant
  • 3. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 “I get a sinking feeling…. ….it’s  Nick  the  Beard.     Nick  is  some  sort  of  technical  officer  from  CESG…  he  drops  round   the  Laundry  every  so  o=en  to  make  sure  all  our  so=ware  is   licensed  and  we’re  only  running  validated  COTS  so=ware   purchased  via  approved  suppliers.  Which  is  why,  whenever  we   get  word  that  he’s  about  to  visit,  I  have  to  run  around  rebooHng   servers  like  crazy  and  loading  the  padded  cell  environments  we   keep  around  purely  to  placate  CESG  so  they  don’t  blacklist  our  IT   processes  and  get  our  budget  lopped  off  at  the  knees.   Despite  that,  Nick  is  basically  OK,  which  is  why  I  get  the  sinking   feeling;  I  don’t  enjoy  treaHng  nice  guys  like  they’re  agents  of  satan   or  Microso=  salesmen.”   The  Atrocity  Archives,  Charles  Stross,  ©2004  
  • 4. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Our world is changing Moving away from on-premise ‘Commercial Off The Shelf’ (COTS) software •  Perpetual licenses •  Capitalised over 3 or 5 years •  Use forever
  • 5. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Our world is changing We’re moving to a new world of ‘as-a-Service’ •  Consume only what you need (in theory) •  Pay for only what you use (in theory) •  Costs are paid from operating expense accounts
  • 6. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 CAPEX hasn’t gone away (Mostly   Theirs)   Networks   Physical  Servers   Virtual  Machines   Databases  &  ApplicaEons   Client  Interface   Physical  End  Points   End  Users   (Mostly     Opex)   (Capex)   (Opex)   (Ours)   Networks   Physical  Servers   Virtual  Machines   Databases  &  ApplicaEons   Client  Interface   Physical  End  Points   End  Users   (Opex)   (Capex)   (Opex)   (Probably   Ours)   (Theirs)   (Mostly   Theirs)  
  • 7. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 What does this mean for Vendors? Vendors  pretend  economies   of  scale  exist   Economies  of  scale  are  real   Vendors  can  only  guess  at  the  true  value   of  the  soZware  for  the  customer   Vendors  can  see  exactly  how  the   soZware  is  used   Vendors  don’t  need  to  worry  if  the   soZware  isn’t  used   It’s  vital  the  soZware  is  used  
  • 8. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 What does this mean for Customers? Sweat  assets  to  significantly   reduce  costs   We  can’t  sweat  nuffin’   No  need  to  switch  anything  off   Cost  savings  can  only  come  from   switching  stuff  off   There  was  li]le  need  to  balance   business  value  to  costs   We  must  balance  business  value  vs  cost  so   the  business  can  decide  what  to  switch  off      
  • 9. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Where’s the negotiation?
  • 10. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 How does this affect negotiations? Demonstrate commitment to deploy •  Share your migration programme business case •  Seek to negotiate non-monetary benefits that support migration efforts Be prepared to make volume commitments •  Remember – economies of scale are real! •  But commit ONLY if you know you will use the services! The Vendor will know your business inside and out •  Seek to align costs to value eg cost per transaction; cost per unit of storage etc •  This may be a drawback if you don’t understand the value of the software to your own organisation
  • 11. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Who needs to be involved? The  Business   •  Who  will  access?   •  How  many  people  /  transacEons  etc   •  How  will  users  access  the  service?   •  What  up-­‐Eme  does  the  business  require?   •  What  type  of  data  will  be  put  in  the  cloud?   •  Regulatory  requirements   •  Exit  plan   IT   •  SLAs   •  Bandwidth  requirements   •  Browser  /  device  requirements   •  Firewall,  idenEty  management  and   AD  issues   •  Deployment  plan   •  Technical  &  financial  business  case   •  SoZware  licensing   •  Exit  plan   InformaEon  Security   &  Legal   •  Data  residency   •  Public  vs  private  vs  on-­‐prem   •  GDPR  concerns   •  Data  retenEon  requirements   •  Escrow  agreements   •  How  oZen  can  you  ‘true-­‐down’  to   reduce  costs   •  Liability  and  indemnificaEon   •  Exit  plan  
  • 12. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 What else do you need to think about? Negotiate with the end in mind •  You will have no leverage in subsequent negotiations if you don’t have a BATNA (Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement) •  Consider what you need to include in the contract NOW to give you a decent BATNA when the contract expires -  Termination periods -  T&Cs relating to data retention and export Drive down the price as far as possible in your first contract •  It will set a benchmark for follow-on deals •  Negotiate a limit (eg RPI plus 2%) for price increases each year and / or on renewal
  • 13. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 What else? Understand your growth plans •  Negotiate price holds / price holidays to avoid escalating costs for longer deployments -  What is the impact on the business case?! •  Negotiate tiered discounts for higher consumption levels What happens when business is bad? •  Ensure you can decrease costs promptly if usage decreases
  • 14. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Gotchas BYOL T&Cs may change dramatically over time •  Vendors generally favour their own cloud •  You need to build flexibility into your BYOL estate Poor deployment controls •  Vendor portals may have expensive ‘default’ options which can dramatically increase costs Double licensing during migration •  Can you negotiate this away? •  What would be the impact of delays on the business case?
  • 15. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Managing Risks As-a-Service provider goes out of business •  Consider escrow options •  How quickly would you be able to get your data out? Data Security •  Most major vendors are as secure, if not more so than on premise solutions •  Make sure there are adequate back-up and business continuity arrangements Data residency •  What data will be held on the platform? •  Where can that data be located? Legacy Interactions •  How will the XaaS interact with existing on prem infrastructure? •  Don’t get caught out by the equivalent of Diageo’s indirect usage!
  • 16. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Book Recommendations Thinking of.... Buying a Cloud Solution? •  Ian Gotts & Stephen Parker 2009 Getting to Yes: Negotiating an agreement without giving in •  Roger Fisher & William Ury 2011 (3rd edition)
  • 17. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Comments and Thoughts? The ITAM Review UK Conference 2016
  • 18. The ITAM Review UK Conference 2017 Thank You