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Gambling with
Health & Safety
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The Problem:

Safe &
Effective

Risks

Fast &
Cost
Efficient

Risks

Productive
forestry

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Said another way …

Safe &
Effective

Risks

Fast &
Cost
Efficient

Risks

Productive
forestry

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What are our options if we want to
stop gambling?

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Option 1
We could reinforce that in
order to have productive
forestry we need Forestry
People to be safe and
effective

Safe &
Effective

Risks

Fast &
Cost
Efficient

Risks

Productive
forestry

www.YourThinkingCoach.com
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Option 2

We could encourage
Forestry People to be safe
and effective by making
them minimise, isolate or
eliminate risks

Safe &
Effective

Risks

Fast &
Cost
Efficient

Risks

Productive
forestry

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Option 3

Safe &
Effective

Risks

Fast &
Cost
Efficient

Risks

Productive
forestry

We could find ways to be fast
and efficient without taking
risks
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We have encouraged
Forestry People to be safe
and effective by making
them minimise, isolate or
eliminate risks

We have reinforced that in
order to have productive
forestry we need Forestry
People to be safe and effective

We have found ways to be
fast and efficient without
taking risks

www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
Option 4

Safe &
Effective

Risks

Fast &
Cost
?
Efficient

Risks

Productive
forestry

… and reduce the pressure
on Forestry People to take
risks

We could change the
focus on Fast & Cost
Efficient to something
else
www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
We could train and
educate Forestry People
to be safe and effective by
making them minimise,
isolate or eliminate risks

We could communicate that
in order to have productive
forestry we need Forestry
People to be safe and effective

We could continue to find
ways to be fast and cost
efficient without taking risks

… and reduce the pressure
on Forestry People to take
risks

We could change the focus
on fast & cost efficient to
something else

www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
“FOA estimates that contractors represent over
95% of the accidents and fatality notifications
they have recorded in the past year”
In general there is only one way to be successful
in contracting. You have to be “fast and cost
efficient”.
Fast &
Cost
Efficient

www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
There are many obstacles to
changing this focus …
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•
•

Fast &
Cost
Efficient

Status - “Go hard or go home”
Pride - “Run or Die”
Habit of “Fast”
A culture of fast, competitive and task oriented
Men in groups take more risks
Employee piece rates
Price per volume contractor payments
Contract agreements
You have to be “fast and cost efficient” to make money
We don’t know the alternatives
There will be many more obstacles … it won’t be easy
www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
Until we find another way …

www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
Karl Perry
• Group Facilitator for complex
problem solving
• Team building for high
performance decision making
• One-on-one Coaching for high
performance leadership
Contact:
Phone: +64 21 901 501
Email: karl@YourThinkingCoach.com
www.YourThinkingCoach.com
Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved

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Gambling with Health & Safety in NZ Forestry

  • 2. www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 3. The Problem: Safe & Effective Risks Fast & Cost Efficient Risks Productive forestry www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 4. Said another way … Safe & Effective Risks Fast & Cost Efficient Risks Productive forestry www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 5. What are our options if we want to stop gambling? www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 6. Option 1 We could reinforce that in order to have productive forestry we need Forestry People to be safe and effective Safe & Effective Risks Fast & Cost Efficient Risks Productive forestry www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 7. Option 2 We could encourage Forestry People to be safe and effective by making them minimise, isolate or eliminate risks Safe & Effective Risks Fast & Cost Efficient Risks Productive forestry www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 8. Option 3 Safe & Effective Risks Fast & Cost Efficient Risks Productive forestry We could find ways to be fast and efficient without taking risks www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 9. We have encouraged Forestry People to be safe and effective by making them minimise, isolate or eliminate risks We have reinforced that in order to have productive forestry we need Forestry People to be safe and effective We have found ways to be fast and efficient without taking risks www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 10. Option 4 Safe & Effective Risks Fast & Cost ? Efficient Risks Productive forestry … and reduce the pressure on Forestry People to take risks We could change the focus on Fast & Cost Efficient to something else www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 11. We could train and educate Forestry People to be safe and effective by making them minimise, isolate or eliminate risks We could communicate that in order to have productive forestry we need Forestry People to be safe and effective We could continue to find ways to be fast and cost efficient without taking risks … and reduce the pressure on Forestry People to take risks We could change the focus on fast & cost efficient to something else www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 12. “FOA estimates that contractors represent over 95% of the accidents and fatality notifications they have recorded in the past year” In general there is only one way to be successful in contracting. You have to be “fast and cost efficient”. Fast & Cost Efficient www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 13. There are many obstacles to changing this focus … • • • • • • • • • • • Fast & Cost Efficient Status - “Go hard or go home” Pride - “Run or Die” Habit of “Fast” A culture of fast, competitive and task oriented Men in groups take more risks Employee piece rates Price per volume contractor payments Contract agreements You have to be “fast and cost efficient” to make money We don’t know the alternatives There will be many more obstacles … it won’t be easy www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 14. Until we find another way … www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved
  • 15. Karl Perry • Group Facilitator for complex problem solving • Team building for high performance decision making • One-on-one Coaching for high performance leadership Contact: Phone: +64 21 901 501 Email: karl@YourThinkingCoach.com www.YourThinkingCoach.com Copyright © 2013 Employment Relations Centre Ltd. All Rights Reserved

Hinweis der Redaktion

  1. ----- Meeting Notes (26/11/13 23:04) ----- My name is Karl Perry. I am a professional facilitator. I help teams of people solve complex problems. In 2007 I was asked to assist a sub committee of the NZFOA to work through a difficult problem. That problem was about Health & Safety in the foresrty industry.
  2. In early 2007 I was asked to facilitate a sub group of the NZ Forestry Owners Association (FOA) to get clarity on a challenging problem. The problem was to work out what was holding back safety improvement in the Forestry Industry. At the conclusion of this process the group found itself with a far clearer understanding of the persistent issues, conflicts and compromises that are made at worksites on a daily basis, many of which are detrimental to both safety and productivity. This work helped to inform the Forest Owners Association Strategic Safety Plan which in turn informed the Department of Labour’s Forestry Sectors Action Plan 2010-2013. I have been asked to present to you today to help you have another look at the problem. I am going to use the same thinking process I used in 2007 to get you thinking about the problem. ----- Meeting Notes (26/11/13 23:04) ----- After several sessions the committee had a framework for a Strategic Safety Plan. That plan helped to informed the Forestry Sector Action Plan 2010-2013. Today I am going to share with you one of the tools they used and a version of the problem they identified. Last night I was talking to a bunch of guys from up coromandel way. I was telling him about the problem and he asked "so what do you think is missing?". I am also going to share my thoughts on that ... but first ...
  3. ----- Meeting Notes (26/11/13 23:04) ----- Basically what the team wanted to do was to reduce the risk in forestry. The payoff for doing that was to have a safe and effective workplace. The problem is that people were taking risks. It is harder to find the payoff for taking risks but in the end they said it boiled down to being fast and/or cost efficient. I talked to a couple of guys about this last night at dinner who confirmed it again. One said "Yep, that is the go hard or go home idea". The other said if you are a contractor it pays to get the logs out fast and cheapily. The assumption is that if we are safe & effective and we are fast & cost efficient we will have productive forestry.
  4. ----- Meeting Notes (26/11/13 23:04) ----- When you read it back the other way you really start to see the problem. If we want productive forestry we need to be safe & effective. If we want to be safe and effective we dont want people taking risks. But ... If we want productive forestry we need to be fast and cost efficient. If we want to be fast & cost efficient we feel pressure to take risks. Can you see the problem? What happens when humans feel pressure to take risk and they feel pressure not to taks risk. They compromise by taking risks they think they are in control of. They gamble.
  5. ----- Meeting Notes (26/11/13 23:04) ----- It was these three options that formed the basis of the Forestry Sector Action Plan. It did have an impact. The work toll dropped and volume went up ... but .... people are still taking risks and gambling with health and safety.
  6. ----- Meeting Notes (26/11/13 23:12) ----- So ... in addition to this plan we could also be looking to changing the focus