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Panel Request Response Title:
OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
  SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
  #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens

                   #SXOMGRFP

                    @toddross
                    @joerinaldi
                   @fourkitchens
                    @happycog
                    #DellSXSW
Section 1: Intro




•   RFPs AMIRITE?!?!




         SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                   OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
         #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 1a: Panelists



•   Todd Ross Nienkerk: Four Kitchens

•   Joe Rinaldi: Happy Cog

•   John Stephens: Dell



          SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                    OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
          #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 2: Horror Stories




    SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
              OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
    #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 2: Horror Stories


Q. How many rms were invited to respond to
your RFP?




         SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                   OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
         #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 2: Horror Stories


Q. How many rms were invited to respond to
your RFP?

A. 364




         SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                   OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
         #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 2: Horror Stories


Q. How many rms were invited to respond to
your RFP?

A. 364

Q. How many weren’t?


         SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                   OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
         #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3: Why RFPs?
Or, Why do bad RFPs happen to good people?


•   Why do clients issue RFPs?

•   “Competitive Bid” driving the marketplace

•   State, federal, and bureaucratic requirements

•   Often RFP templates are the first/best option
    found in a search

•   “That’s just how we’ve always done it”

            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?


Case study: Four Kitchens

•   30-40 hours per RFP response

•   $5,000-7,000 opportunity cost

•   Only 16% of work resulted from RFPs

•   Won only 22% of the RFP-driven proposals we
    submitted

            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?



On the flip side:

•   84% of work resulted from personal
    connections and word-of-mouth

•   $2,000-3,000 cost to send a team of three to an
    in-person meeting


            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?



Conclusion:

•   RFPs have driven a small, but not insignificant,
    amount of business

•   It costs less for us to send three people to meet
    a potential client than responding to an RFP


            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?




Minority report:

•   We’re really bad at writing proposals!
    (But I don’t think so.)




            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?



Case Study: Happy Cog

•   Total Leads

•   Quality Wins and Losses

•   % RFP Wins and Losses


            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
     Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?


•   Travel Expenses

•   (Time spent traveling + developing proposal and
    pitch + pitch meetings) * blended rate=
    Opportunity Cost

•   Revenue from RFP wins vs. Opportunity Cost
    and Expense


            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 3a: Why RFPs?
        Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line?

Conclusion:

•   We wasted time on at least 3 “Sexy Brand”
    RFPs this past year, but we won two amazing
    projects via RFP: Harvard.edu, Club Nintendo

    •   My kids think it is cool that I “work for”
        Nintendo, want a Yoshi. *Yoshis are not real.

•   We have also passed on RFPs from both
    organizations, authored by other departments.
               SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                         OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
               #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 4: Dell, A Success Story


  •   RFP process is a vendor evaluating the client
      too.

      •   Provide more than just project
          requirements, cultural snapshot.

  •   Internal stakeholders engaged appropriately,
      open dialog.


              SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                        OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
              #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 4: Dell, A Success Story


  •   Clear internal evaluation criteria among
      stakeholders.

  •   “Office Hours”

  •   Successful partnership with procurement.



             SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                       OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
             #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 4: Dell, A Success Story

  •   Room to improve?

  •   Maybe limit presentations to 4 agencies vs. 6

  •   RFP timing, summer RFPs are difficult to
      project manage.

  •   Take steps to ensure the project launch is
      synchronous to the evaluation process.

             SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                       OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
             #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 5: Clients


•   For a creative project, allow for a creative
    proposal. If it's technical, look for technical. If
    both, look for both. BUT NO SPEC WORK!!!

    •   Don't "level the playing field" forcing people
        to use a common font, type size, format, etc.
        Let vendors be creative in their own way.


            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 5: Clients

•   Require speaking to the people who are going
    to work on the project.

    •   Avoid a sales “layer”. Sales should be a
        facilitator.

•   Beware of low bids. Often they are too good to
    be true.

•   Pre-select, research and vet vendors. No open
    bids. You'll get a bunch of garbage.
            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 6: Vendors

•   Ask clients how many other vendors they're
    inviting to bid.

•   Be open: Ask if it's really worth your time to
    respond. Are vendors with existing
    relationships under consideration?

    •   If they're cagey about it, ask how they found
        out about you.

            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 6: Vendors

•   Require a phone, video, or in-person meeting.
    The proposal should be about pricing and
    approach; then do a face-to-face. If budget is
    a concern, float the estimate first to get buy-in.

    •   Evaluate client consensus around
        requirements, goals.

•   Offer alternatives. As part of any sales or
    negotiation process, the evaluation system
    itself is often negotiable.
            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Section 7: Where do we go?


•   Where do we go from here?

•   John/Dell

•   Joe/Happy Cog

•   Todd/Four Kitchens


          SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                    OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
          #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Appendix A: Resources


•   Stop Writing Project Proposals
    Jonathan Wold, Smashing Magazine
    http://cog.gd/3l2

•   RFPs: The Least Creative Way to Hire People
    Greg Hoy, A List Apart
    http://cog.gd/28b



           SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                     OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
           #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Appendix A: Resources


•   6 Steps to Writing a Better Request for Proposals
    Confluent Forms
    http://cog.gd/3l3

•   Buying Wins
    Joe Rinaldi, Cognition
    http://cog.gd/30p



            SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                      OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
            #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
Appendix B: Future Scope



•   DrupalCon Denver (March 19):
    No RFPs! Why requests for proposal are bad for
    business (and how we can stop them)
    http://cog.gd/3jq




           SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response
                     OMG Your RFP is Killing Me
           #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens

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  • 1. Panel Request Response Title: OMG Your RFP is Killing Me SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens #SXOMGRFP @toddross @joerinaldi @fourkitchens @happycog #DellSXSW
  • 2. Section 1: Intro • RFPs AMIRITE?!?! SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 3. Section 1a: Panelists • Todd Ross Nienkerk: Four Kitchens • Joe Rinaldi: Happy Cog • John Stephens: Dell SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 4. Section 2: Horror Stories SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 5. Section 2: Horror Stories Q. How many rms were invited to respond to your RFP? SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 6. Section 2: Horror Stories Q. How many rms were invited to respond to your RFP? A. 364 SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 7. Section 2: Horror Stories Q. How many rms were invited to respond to your RFP? A. 364 Q. How many weren’t? SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 8. Section 3: Why RFPs? Or, Why do bad RFPs happen to good people? • Why do clients issue RFPs? • “Competitive Bid” driving the marketplace • State, federal, and bureaucratic requirements • Often RFP templates are the rst/best option found in a search • “That’s just how we’ve always done it” SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 9. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Case study: Four Kitchens • 30-40 hours per RFP response • $5,000-7,000 opportunity cost • Only 16% of work resulted from RFPs • Won only 22% of the RFP-driven proposals we submitted SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 10. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? On the flip side: • 84% of work resulted from personal connections and word-of-mouth • $2,000-3,000 cost to send a team of three to an in-person meeting SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 11. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Conclusion: • RFPs have driven a small, but not insignicant, amount of business • It costs less for us to send three people to meet a potential client than responding to an RFP SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 12. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Minority report: • We’re really bad at writing proposals! (But I don’t think so.) SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 13. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Case Study: Happy Cog • Total Leads • Quality Wins and Losses • % RFP Wins and Losses SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 14. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? • Travel Expenses • (Time spent traveling + developing proposal and pitch + pitch meetings) * blended rate= Opportunity Cost • Revenue from RFP wins vs. Opportunity Cost and Expense SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 15. Section 3a: Why RFPs? Do RFPs make sense to your bottom line? Conclusion: • We wasted time on at least 3 “Sexy Brand” RFPs this past year, but we won two amazing projects via RFP: Harvard.edu, Club Nintendo • My kids think it is cool that I “work for” Nintendo, want a Yoshi. *Yoshis are not real. • We have also passed on RFPs from both organizations, authored by other departments. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 16. Section 4: Dell, A Success Story • RFP process is a vendor evaluating the client too. • Provide more than just project requirements, cultural snapshot. • Internal stakeholders engaged appropriately, open dialog. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 17. Section 4: Dell, A Success Story • Clear internal evaluation criteria among stakeholders. • “Ofce Hours” • Successful partnership with procurement. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 18. Section 4: Dell, A Success Story • Room to improve? • Maybe limit presentations to 4 agencies vs. 6 • RFP timing, summer RFPs are difcult to project manage. • Take steps to ensure the project launch is synchronous to the evaluation process. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 19. Section 5: Clients • For a creative project, allow for a creative proposal. If it's technical, look for technical. If both, look for both. BUT NO SPEC WORK!!! • Don't "level the playing eld" forcing people to use a common font, type size, format, etc. Let vendors be creative in their own way. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 20. Section 5: Clients • Require speaking to the people who are going to work on the project. • Avoid a sales “layer”. Sales should be a facilitator. • Beware of low bids. Often they are too good to be true. • Pre-select, research and vet vendors. No open bids. You'll get a bunch of garbage. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 21. Section 6: Vendors • Ask clients how many other vendors they're inviting to bid. • Be open: Ask if it's really worth your time to respond. Are vendors with existing relationships under consideration? • If they're cagey about it, ask how they found out about you. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 22. Section 6: Vendors • Require a phone, video, or in-person meeting. The proposal should be about pricing and approach; then do a face-to-face. If budget is a concern, float the estimate rst to get buy-in. • Evaluate client consensus around requirements, goals. • Offer alternatives. As part of any sales or negotiation process, the evaluation system itself is often negotiable. SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 23. Section 7: Where do we go? • Where do we go from here? • John/Dell • Joe/Happy Cog • Todd/Four Kitchens SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 24. Appendix A: Resources • Stop Writing Project Proposals Jonathan Wold, Smashing Magazine http://cog.gd/3l2 • RFPs: The Least Creative Way to Hire People Greg Hoy, A List Apart http://cog.gd/28b SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 25. Appendix A: Resources • 6 Steps to Writing a Better Request for Proposals Confluent Forms http://cog.gd/3l3 • Buying Wins Joe Rinaldi, Cognition http://cog.gd/30p SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens
  • 26. Appendix B: Future Scope • DrupalCon Denver (March 19): No RFPs! Why requests for proposal are bad for business (and how we can stop them) http://cog.gd/3jq SXSWi 2012 Panel Speaker Request Response OMG Your RFP is Killing Me #76593.9.toddrossnienkerk.joerinaldi.johnstephens

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