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- 1. SUPERCHARGE YOUR PROJECT MEMBERS Show them how to get the most from testing
- 2. Communication: The Key While Waiting for Test Results When the Results Arrives Contacting Matches Additional Testing AGENDA
- 3. COMMUNICATION: THE KEY Personal email list myGroups Website email lists (Yahoo, etc.) Goal: Maintain communication to teach, to notify, and to provide support Delivery: Monthly emails or as needed on a topic, notice of new testers or results, and for sales
- 4. COMMUNICATE CLARITY AND HONESTY Advise that DNA tells the truth; our ancestors did not always Ask the tester their goals in taking a DNA test in order to better advise Help them understand the differences between the major tests Don’t over sell a test
- 5. EMAIL TOPICS Information in this presentation Suggestions on completing various FTDNA webpages: settings, beneficiary, GEDCOM Arrival of new testers and their lineages No dates and locales for the living or mother’s maiden names Test results Sales and coupon codes
- 6. WHILE WAITING FOR RESULTS 6
- 7. CHECK LINEAGE FOR QUALITY RESOURCES 7
- 8. Abraham Talley Father: Amelia Co, VA Court Order Book 1, p. 129, 21 Nov 1740 Court. Will of John Talley states: “... bequeth to my son Abraham Tally …” Birth: Bristol Parish Register, Prince George, Co, VA. 21 Oct 1721 John and Ann Tally bapt. son Abraham. Marriage: Mecklenburg Co, VA Deed Book 5, p. 66, 1 Nov 1757/1 Nov 1757. “Sarah, wife relinquished dower.” Death: Mecklenburg Co, VA, Will Book 2, p. 49, 11 Oct 1783/12 Apr 1784. Will of Abraham Talley. 8
- 9. COMPILE DATA ON DESCENDANTS 1074 CODY WARREN10 CORFE (Kristie Marie9 Egelkrout, Shirley Ann8 Beams, Darlene Estella7 Wilson, Herbert Evan6 Wilson, Maria Louise5 Ary, Sarah Ann4 Ogan, Evan3 Ogan, Peter2 Ogan, Peter1 Ogan) was born on 19 Feb XXXX in Langley, British Columbia, Canada. He married (1) DARLA DENISE GRAVES. She was born on 07 Nov XXXX in Bellingham, Whatcom, Washington, USA. He married (2) ANGEL THOMPSON. She was born in Bellingham, Whatcom, Washington, USA. Cody Warren Corfe and Darla Denise Graves had the following child: ………………etc. 9
- 10. AHNENTAFELS, GEDCOMS, ETC. 10 Generation No. 3 4. Guy Franklin Doolin, born 06 Aug 1899 in Iberia, Miller Co, MO; died 12 Jun 1959 in Lebanon, Laclede Co, MO. He was the son of 8. John Marion Doolin and 9. Mary Matilda Robertson. He married 5. Georgia Faye Williams 10 Nov 1918 in Waynesville, Pulaski Co, MO. 5. Georgia Faye Williams, born 25 Mar 1898 in Waynesville, Pulaski Co, MO; died 03 Jan 1980 in Kansas City, Wyandotte Co, KS. She was the daughter of 10. Benjamin Franklin Williams and 11. Tina May Simpson. Children of Guy Doolin and Georgia Williams are: i. Horace Joseph Doolin 2 ii. Donald Ray Doolin iii. Infant Doolin, born 1934; died 1934. 6. Clyde Mills Williams, born 22 Nov 1887 in Fort Scott, Bourbon Co, KS; died 08 Aug 1957 in Fort Scott, Bourbon Co, KS. He was the son of 12. John Joseph Williams and 13. Urvilla Victoria McCoon. He married 7. Emily Helen Gilmore 09 Jun 1921 in Olathe, Johnson Co, KS. 7. Emily Helen Gilmore, born 14 Dec 1890 in Gray's Harbor, Gray's Harbor Co, WA; died 31 Aug 1942 in Fort Scott, Bourbon Co, KS. She was the daughter of 14. Lowry Graham Gilmore and 15. Mary Adeline Ogan.
- 11. WAITING IS TIME FOR LEARNING Learn your testing company’s webpages For atDNA results, learn spreadsheet software Continue educating yourself about DNA via books, online tutorials, and webinars 11 https://www.familytreedna.com /learn/ftdna/webinars/
- 13. YOU HAVE A MATCH! Contact is initiated by you or your match The type of test determines your focus Your diligence determines the result 13
- 14. UPLOAD DATA Upload your GEDCOM to the company site Upload results to Ysearch, mitosearch or GEDmatch 14
- 16. CONTACT MATCHES Email most closely related first and share genealogies (Check HIR for atDNA contacts) 16 William s
- 17. CONTACTING Y-DNA MATCHES Find the matches with the smallest genetic different on the highest number of markers you tested. Email matches with your all-male lineage (names, dates, locations and any males who connects to your all-male direct line down to the present) Remember, the match can be on siblings of the all-male direct line but are all are males 17
- 18. CONTACTING mtDNA MATCHES Email only perfect matches as common ancestors can go back thousands of years even with a GD of zero Compare information on your all-female line, including any females who stem from it Compare locations The match can be on siblings of the all- female direct line but are always females except for the most recent generation. 18
- 19. CONTACTING atDNA MATCHES Email closest matches first (largest cMs; not total) Beginners work with 15 cMs and higher; Intermediates with 7 cMs; Experts with 5 cMs Determine HIRs with known cousins and others; ask if match shares same HIR your other matches Share GEDCOM / ahnentafels with names, dates, locations an all the descendants you can locate. 19
- 20. GETTING THE MOST FROM ATDNA RESULTS 20 Matches List Spreadsheets Matches’ Segments Spreadsheets Bio-geographical Compositions GEDmatch
- 21. Create Matches Spreadsheets Download matches list and your matches’ segments list into separate spreadsheets Keep the originals; make a working copy of each; add needed columns Order the segments list by cMs from largest to smallest Remove any cMs below 5.0 Do the same for any relative you tested and merge the data into the working file 21
- 24. Finding Half-identical Regions (HIRs) Order your matches’ segments list by chromosome, then start and end positions Locate clusters that appear to share the same segment. A cluster is three or more Email each member of the cluster to see if they all match each other in the same location on the same chromosome. (HIR; Triangulating) Those who match each other share the same common ancestor(s) 24
- 26. Finding Common Ancestors If testing various known cousins, you can use their segments to compare with new matches Chr Start End cMs SNPs Emily vs. Doug 12 61,880 12,161,557 23.63 3,913 Emily vs. Dan 12 724,592 14,011,756 25.48 4,413 Dan vs. Doug 12 461,561 12,161,557 22.87 3,813 Determine from whom you inherited the segment. 26
- 27. WHICH ANCESTOR PROVIDED DNA Test cousins to divide your pedigree chart for mapping your chromosomes Use tested cousins to compare to newly found cousins Unless you divide your pedigree chart well, you will match an ancestral couple Record the common ancestor in a new column on the working spreadsheet. Example: RGG1811/HS1812 Example: Gilmore-Storrier 27
- 28. ME Guy F John Benj. Georgia Tina Mary Donald Emily H. Mary Clyde M Lowry John J. Urvilla Beverly Gerald – 2nd Cousin Tested for Clyde, John and Urvilla Robert – 2nd Cousin Tested for Emily, Lowry and Mary Doug – 1st Cousin Tested for Guy and Georgia Dan – 1st Cousin 1R Tested for Ben and Tina Test Known Cousins 28
- 29. Ancestral DNA Couples Doug – 1st Cousin Tested for Guy and Georgia Dan – 1st Cousin 1R Tested for Ben and Tina Test a descendan t of a sibling 29
- 30. SIMPSON A woman was listed as a probable 4th cousin; a relationship range from 3rd to 7th cousin. We shared a list of 4th great-grandparents with dates and locations. Her lineage had 8 surnames that connect to my family in some way. Within 16 days we found our common ancestor; we are 6th cousins once removed. Chromo Start point End point cMs 30
- 31. Rebecca and Emily ‘s match Chromo Start point End point cMs SNPs X 45,611,715 69,267,006 14.32 1575 X 114,784,651 141,333,316 39.54 3575 X-CHROMOSOME: WHICH ANCESTOR? 31
- 32. Chart courtesy of Blaine Bettinger, PhD 32
- 33. Chart courtesy of Blaine Bettinger, PhD 33
- 34. X-CHROMOSOME: WHICH ANCESTOR? Kirk Stoddard and Emily Chromo Start point End point cMs SNPs 5 168000000 178000000 23.2 2497 6 139000000 151000000 13.4 2551 12 10000000 14000000 6.8 881 X 95000000 115000000 17.6 1629 34
- 35. Chart courtesy of Blaine Bettinger, PhD 35
- 36. Chart courtesy of Blaine Bettinger, PhD
- 37. X-chromosome Match Summary Emily Lowry Gilmore Mary Ogan Emily Helen StorrierRobert Gilmore S.P. Ogan Emily Studyvin Beverly Rebecca, 2nd cousin, descends from Mary and Lowry via son Robert>Margaret Kirk, 3rd Cousin, 1 Removed descends from Helen and Robert via son David>Jean> Margaret>Virginia Emily, Kirk and Rebecca’s Connections 37
- 38. Lineage Issues Just sharing names and locations may not result in finding the common ancestor Missing ancestors on a six-generation chart Not every descendant of the 64 fourth great-grandparents is known You or your match may have a female who married a surname unknown to one of you Either you or your match may have an 38
- 41. Wyandot – Maternal Great Grandfather Choctaw – Maternal Great Grandmother
- 42. NATIVE AMERICAN: DNA RESULTS Tim’s mother has 2 Asian segments; Tim has 1 One maternal uncle has 5 Asian segments; another has 6 Additional relatives of Tim’s maternal grandfather Paul Youngman were tested (two 1st and two 2nd cousins); the cousins have between 4 and 6 Asian segments Two descendants of Tim’s maternal grandmother were tested; neither has any
- 43. THE CHIEF AND TIM Note the nose, ears, similar brow, tall and slender
- 44. GEDmatch A third party website which allows you to compare your atDNA data with others who have uploaded theirs to GEDmatch Compares raw data files from any of the three major companies Some tools are free; the Tier 1 level requires a $10 monthly fee. Kitty Cooper’s Blog has a video by Angie Bush http://blog.kittycooper.com/tag/gedmatch/ 44
- 46. Y-DNA TESTING Test descendants of other sons from oldest all-male line Upgrade from Y-37 to Y-67 or Y-111 when Matches are few and at high GD No matches Many matches that appear closely related Paper trail within a group indicate more than average for family mutation SNP and Big Y Haplogroup Admins can guide you
- 47. mtDNA TESTING Test descendants on all-female line of those suspected of matching Upgrade to the full mitochonrdial test if you want a more detailed haplogroup
- 48. atDNA TESTING Parents and siblings in order to phase data and better map the chromosomes Additional cousins to separate branches of pedigree chart 1-3rd cousins best 4th cousins can match and/or prove to match some cousins if not you
- 49. Successes encourage enthusiasm and give hope SHARE SUCCESS STORIES
- 50. Y-DNA: FAMILY ACROSS THE POND
- 52. Connie, Angie Angie, Vivian mtDNA: VIVIAN - GIRLFRIEND OR SISTER? 52
- 53. atDNA AND Y-DNA: GILMORE SECRETS A Gilmore 2nd cousin tested; my grandmother and her grandfather were siblings No match; we knew both families had illegitimate children Each tested a different descendant of the family I matched my other Gilmore cousin; she was a half-match to her Gilmore uncle through his mother, her grandmother. Hummm 53
- 54. GILMORE SECRETS She tested her uncle and the son of the known illegitimate child on the Y- chromosome; they matched each other Two children of the grandmother were by the same unknown father Found the correct surname through other Y-DNA matches, and it is not Gilmore ? 54
- 55. Robert, Jr., Margaret, George, and Lowry Eyes and brows of Robert differ from George and Lowry Foreheads of Robert Jr and Margaret are higher. PEARL’S CHILDREN 1949 55
- 56. Resources Attend lectures Read genetic genealogy books Frequent Blogs View Webinars Enjoy the adventure! 56
- 57. SUMMARY FOR PROJECT MEMBERS Understand that each test provides matches for different parts of the genome and focuses on different parts of the pedigree chart Formulate goals before testing Learn all you can from various sources Teach your matches what you have learned 57
- 58. Questions ??? Thank you! © E. Aulicino, Oct 2015 aulicino@hevanet.com ARE YOU SUPERCHARGED?
Hinweis der Redaktion
- Comparing just the direct line makes it difficult to find common ancestors
- Create Ahnentafels, GEDCOMs, etc. to share with matches and include siblings, dates and locations
- Beginners start with 15 cMs and higher Intermediates use 7 cMs and higher Experts use 5 cMs and higher
- Download your matches list and your matches segments’ list into separate spreadsheets Keep the originals; make a working copy of each; add needed columns Add columns as needed For Segments Spreadsheet Order the segments list by centimorgans from largest to smallest Remove any cMs below 5.0 Do the same for any relative you tested and merge the data into the working file OR … Combine Matches List and Matches’ Segments into one spreadsheet
- Download Matches List Spreadsheet Add columns to fit your needs Download Matches’ Segments Spreadsheet Add columns to fit your needs OR … Combine Matches List and Matches’ Segments into one spreadsheet
- DNA is from the common ancestor or ancestral couple and farther back on those lines
- Test parents, siblings, and other close relatives Test cousins to separate the lines of your pedigree chart and to help determine which ancestor gave a DNA segment 1st cousins only separate father from mother 2nd and 3rd cousins are best 4th cousins match 50% of the time
- Record the common ancestor in a new column on the working spreadsheet. Example: RGG1811/HS1812 Example: Gilmore-Storrier
- Wyandot Tim’s family story – a connection on his maternal grandfather’s side to Wyandot Chief Tarhe, born ca 1742, called “The Crane”. The Wyandots settled in the Northwest Territory Tim’s maternal grandfather, Paul Youngman recorded the history in his book Heritage of the Wyandots, 1975 Tim was interested in finding the Native American DNA segments to prove the genealogy Choctaw Tim’s maternal grandmother, Maude (McIntire) Youngman’s great-grandmother Margaret was said to have Choctaw Native American Heritage. Family members believed it to be true. Choctaws were in the Southwestern US, and according to the 1880 census, Margaret’s parents were born in Virginia. Further research indicated that Margaret’s father was born in Wales and her mother in Vermont.
- 23andMe revealed Tim has an Asian segment on Chromosome 6. (Native American DNA is derived from Asian DNA) Tim’s mother has two Asian segments; one maternal uncle has five and another has six. More relatives of his maternal grandfather Paul Youngman were tested (two 1st and two 2nd cousins); the cousins have between four and six Asian segments. Two descendants of Tim’s maternal grandmother from were tested; no Asian ancestry; not Choctaw.
- Chief Tarhe, a Wyandot, b. ca 1742; m. Ronyouquaines who was said to have been the daughter of Chevalier La Durant, a French Canadian. They had: Myeerah who m. Isaac Zane, captured by the Wyandots. They had: Sarah who m. Robert Armstrong who was taken by Indians near Pittsburgh PA. They had: John M. Armstrong, b. 1813 who m. Lucy Bigelow. They had: Russell B. Armstrong m. Rachel Brown. They had: Anna B. Armstrong m. Charles L. Youngman. They had: Paul Youngman, maternal grandfather of Tim Jansen. Paul documented all this in his book Heritage of the Wyandots, 1975.
- Jeffrey was born in Cardiff in 1945 and adopted by the Harris Family. While watching a BBC documentary about tracing your roots, he decided to locate his parents. Mother’s name on the birth certificate; they met in 2011 Mom’s clue: Father was a Scotsman In 2010 he and wife visited WDYTYA in London; he tested his Y-chromosome and his atDNA. A Y-DNA match in Texas was only one marker off; surname was learned. CLICK Overseas Cousin Adds Clue: New Clue: A family friend’s mother said Jeff’s father was an American serviceman billeted in Jeff’s grandfather’s house. Others confirmed this. Sheila, a Texas cousin whose male relative matched, went to the UK and showed Jeffrey how her cousin and Clifford, an Oregon match, were connected. Cliff has two half-uncles in the service at the right age and stationed in England. The investigation continues.