4. #49 UBC
#92 University Montreal
#96 University of Alberta
#140 McMaster University
#180 University of Waterloo
#189 Queen’s University
#199 University of Western Ontario
World Rankings
8. Golden Rule
When in doubt…Read the
school website and THEN ask
your counselor
9. Counselors Are Here To Help
Find the best fit scenario
Determine what a “good college” really
means
Select “good” options that fit the student’s
academic profile
Understanding of application requirements
10. Encourage Your Son/Daughter To
Be Proactive
Get Organized
Communicate Well
Be an Expert
Stay Positive
Enjoy Senior Year (School life AND family)!
11. Reminders
Parent Survey (Naviance)
Application regulations
10 apps worldwide (UC/UCAS are 1 each)
10 application rule applies to entire application cycle
Applications to OUAC DO NOT count as 1 application
Students must know deadlines and requirements
Procrastination is the enemy (and doesn’t make a good impression)
Strong to the finish
All offers are conditional (UBC example)
17. Common
Applications
Applications
through which
you may apply to
multiple colleges
and universities.
Ontario University
Application Centre (OUAC)
U of Toronto, U of Waterloo, Queen’s U
Available mid-September (Sept. 17?)
May apply to 3 faculties/programs per
university
Preference?
$140.00
Additional fee beyond initial 3
universities/programs ($44.00)
22. The OUAC Application
You can apply to as many universities
as you wish, however you are limited to
a maximum of three programs at
any one university.
31. Other
Applications
(Universities in
Canada but
outside of
Ontario)
Apply directly using each
university’s online application.
Such as McGill University, UBC, and
University of Alberta
Available Late August/September
(UBC August 20, 2014)
Int’l Application fee (McGill $100.00),
UBC $108.00)
43. UBC’s Personal Profile
Gives you the opportunity to tell UBC about the
things that are important to you, your significant
achievements, what you’ve learned from your
experiences and the challenges you’ve overcome.
Short essay questions
Anywhere from 50 to 200 words
Not just a list of accomplishments
47. SAT & ACT
SAT Test Date
Registration
Deadline
October 11 September 12
November 8 October 9
December 6 November 6
January 24 December 29
ACT Test Date
Registration
Deadline
September 13 August 8
October 25 September 19
December 13 November 7
ISM: 705 720
Test Center: 74905
48. IB
Scores
Predicted IB
scores are
automatically
sent for all IB
Diploma
candidates.
Predicted
December predictions sent in January
Admissions decisions are made largely
on basis of predicted IB scores
Offers of admission are conditional
upon a student achieving similar actual
IB scores
Actual
Sent directly from IB to attending
college in July
50. Transcript
Requests
Students must
request
transcripts and
necessary
supporting
documents for all
colleges to which
they apply.
Process:
Student applies to universities during
the first semester
University replies with candidate
number (Reference Number) and
requests the student to submit
necessary documents
Student submits transcript request as
per the university’s request
Q
53. Canada
Apply first semester (around October-November)
McGill due January 15
UBC due January 31
Other universities often have later due dates (January –
March) …U of Waterloo is March 31
Check university websites now (and carefully)
54. W H A T W E S E N D A N D H O W
ISM Responsibilities
61. Making a Choice & Depositing
Variable Reply Dates
If you are waiting on another university’s decision, see your
counselor for help with an extension
Deposit to one institution
Applying to Countries with Later Decisions
Discuss options with the counselor
63. Check in, but don’t complete the application
Don’t worry if the university says it doesn’t have your
documents
Support and assist with organizational consulting
Balance conversations with more than just university
Continue to have open, honest discussions
Be aware of possible changes in family dynamics
throughout year
Welcome and thank you for joining us this evening!
Introductions: Jennifer Melton (students A-I), Curt Nichols (Program Leader and students J-N), Lisa Ball (students O-Z)
We met yesterday with you Seniors and share much of the same information we are sharing with you tonight.
Please be sure to pick up a yellow timeline focusing on dates and deadlines specific to ISM and college applications and if you are planning to apply to US universities and do not have a US passport, there are copies of the Certification of Finances form which is a requirement for international students.
We thought we’d try something new tonight to field questions that will arise throughout the presentation. If you brought a mobile device that has internet access, please go to todaysmeet.com/can2012. Here, you’ll be able to type in your questions and we’ll be monitoring them and addressing them throughout the evening. (NOTE: No connection August 2012)
What Do I Do Now?
While the process of applying to university belongs to a student, counselors are here to help them spend time self reflecting and analyzing their wants and needs for university as well as manage the logistical process of applying to university.
You’ll often hear us talk about “fit” for a university. A university that “fits” one student, might not “fit” another. So how is a student to know? Through the Do What You Are that students do in grades 9 and 10, participating in the Bearcat Career experience, taking challenging coursework and growing outside the classroom through service and activities, students have numerous opportunities to explore possibilities and learn about their strengths.
So when a student or parent expresses finding a “good college”, it’s important to put into context who the student is, what they want to explore, and how they want to grow. Then finding a “good” college means finding one that can showcase and develop these strengths.
Finally, the requirements for universities around the world and even within a given country can vary widely. We can help students interpret the requirements many of these universities have for admission.
Be Proactive
Don’t wait for your counselor or your parents to ask you questions or to push you; you must be a self-starter…..asking questions, researching online, being in control of your college search
Get Organized
Probably No 1 thing
Must keep track of deadlines, what you have requested (teacher recs, transcripts)
Need a method to compare the schools you are considering so you will be able to make an informed decision when it comes time to accept
EX – student who made a spreadsheet of what was important for her to consider: Major/Program, Cost, Teacher-student ratio, availability of financial aid, housing, and then some more personal things like boy-girl ratio and whether she could have a car on campus her freshman year
Communicate Well
With parents, teachers and your counselor
Open and honest communication – don’t be afraid to ask questions of any of us!
Is there anything off limits – location, cost (what is maximum?)
Parents and students must have good communication. The last thing that you want is for the student to apply to a school, get accepted, and then the parents say they are not allowed to go there…..for whatever reason. Parents and students must work together to make the list of schools to apply to.
Be an Expert
On your college! You should know more than ANYONE about the schools you are applying to.
Stay Positive
The college admissions process is stressful so do your best to stay positive throughout. Remember also that if a school denies you admission, it is not personal. College does not define you! Think positive thoughts and know that what happens in the process is for the best.
Enjoy Senior Year
This is your final year in high school. It’s the last time for some of your activities and that last time that all of you will be together. Enjoy it! Take advantage of all that ISM offers. Make time for the things that are important to you. Don’t spend every moment studying in solitary confinement.
Application regulations
Students are allowed 10 applications at ISM with the UCs and UCAS counting as 1 each.
If you are applying to schools later in the application cycle (spring and after), be sure and leave space for those in your list of 10 or less schools.
Know deadlines and requirements
Again…this is part of doing your research, and being an expert on your schools.
Keep track of your deadlines so you don’t miss any of them!! Colleges are unforgiving when it comes to missing deadlines. No exceptions are given.
Procrastination is your enemy and doesn’t make a good impression
Waiting until the last minute will only hurt you in this process
You need time to write your essay so that is the best ever
You must ask your teachers and counselor to write you a recommendation and they must have PLENTY of time if you want a good one
When you do things at the last minute, it tells us that you are not organized and could hurt what we are able to say about you in our recommendations
Strong to the Finish
No senior slump! No senioritis allowed!!
Colleges will look at your midyear grades as well as your final grades
Which leads to…….
All offers are conditional
Your offer of admission to Canada, the US and the UK are CONDITIONAL based on how you complete the year. Universities can rescind their offer of admission for academic as well as disciplinary reasons. We all have stories of students in the past who received “the letter” telling them that there was no longer a place for them at that university. So you must stay strong to the finish! The entire year is important.
What Do I Do Now?
Make an appointment w/ Counselor & Finalizing plans:
Application plan (i.e. ED, EA, etc.) and their associated deadlines
Update Senior Profile
Counselors need in order to write you a good recommendation; the information in it should also help you as you complete the teacher recommendation form
Check your transcript
You were given a copy of your transcript at the end of last year. You should look CAREFULLY at it to see if there are any mistakes or errors
Why College X essay
More to come on this (later slide)
Two Teacher Recommendations
Two teachers – typically core area teachers, but in special cases could be another teacher like someone in fine arts
The US schools will read 2 teacher recs and no more. If you apply to the UK, you can have only ONE teacher recommendation.
Canada, in general, does not require nor will they read recommendations.
Your job now is to select your teachers….and then ask them if they will write you a letter. Your teachers will be honest with you and tell you if they don’t feel they can write you a strong letter.
Finalize Plans/Colleges
Select your 10 or fewer schools to which you will apply with the input from your parents and counselor.
Essay/Personal Statement Draft
You want to spend plenty of time on this essay. What you write and how you say it tells the colleges a lot about you.
Allow others to help you proofread. Your English teachers are great sources for grammar, style and content. Your counselor will also read your essay, but we read for CONTENT and not grammar. We are reading it more like an admissions officer will, trying to see what we learn about you from the essay.
Create Application Accounts
Common Application - now
UCAS – ready mid-September
OUAC (Ontario) – ready mid-September
UCs – ready about Oct. 1
Register for Testing
SATs are given Oct, Nov, Dec
ACTs are given Oct and Dec, this semester
TOEFL dates are on their website – one coming up in September
Recommended if you carry a passport of a country whose official language is not English; this does include the Philippines
Make an appointment w/ Counselor & Finalizing plans:
Application plan (i.e. ED, EA, etc.) and their associated deadlines
Update Senior Profile
Counselors need in order to write you a good recommendation; the information in it should also help you as you complete the teacher recommendation form
Check your transcript
You were given a copy of your transcript at the end of last year. You should look CAREFULLY at it to see if there are any mistakes or errors
Why College X essay
More to come on this (later slide)
Two Teacher Recommendations
Two teachers – typically core area teachers, but in special cases could be another teacher like someone in fine arts
The US schools will read 2 teacher recs and no more. If you apply to the UK, you can have only ONE teacher recommendation.
Canada, in general, does not require nor will they read recommendations.
Your job now is to select your teachers….and then ask them if they will write you a letter. Your teachers will be honest with you and tell you if they don’t feel they can write you a strong letter.
Finalize Plans/Colleges
Select your 10 or fewer schools to which you will apply with the input from your parents and counselor.
Essay/Personal Statement Draft
You want to spend plenty of time on this essay. What you write and how you say it tells the colleges a lot about you.
Allow others to help you proofread. Your English teachers are great sources for grammar, style and content. Your counselor will also read your essay, but we read for CONTENT and not grammar. We are reading it more like an admissions officer will, trying to see what we learn about you from the essay.
Create Application Accounts
Common Application - now
UCAS – ready mid-September
OUAC (Ontario) – ready mid-September
UCs – ready about Oct. 1
Register for Testing
SATs are given Oct, Nov, Dec
ACTs are given Oct and Dec, this semester
TOEFL dates are on their website – one coming up in September
Recommended if you carry a passport of a country whose official language is not English; this does include the Philippines
Be accurate with registration; no changes on test date. Must upload a photo for registration.
ISM is a private test center which means that our students must have the test center code in order to register to test here.
Sometimes students get confused and don’t see ISM so register for British School and then show up at ISM the day of the test to change their test site. Not allowed any more. Really important everything is correct at time of registration
I think it is important for parents to have an idea of timeframes so that you can provide support at home and also know when those crunch times are going to be. Give you a sense of when applications and supporting documents should reach the universities.
Students have additional internal deadlines – dates we shared with them yesterday during assembly – and include things like deadlines for asking teachers for recommendations, requesting transcripts, etc. We have these internal deadlines so that school staff have time to provide high-quality supporting information.
Korea
Seoul Natl – students out of Korea 12 years or other international students
It is our understanding that Korean deadlines are getting earlier and earlier.
Specific information on dates and deadlines on the individual school’s website is in Korean – so you can imagine we are a bit handicapped in accessing the data. We rely heavily on you and your children to be the experts for Korean Univ deadlines.
We can send documents online to many univ in the US and some in Canada.
The 3 p.m. daily deadline is non-negotiable for UPS. Any documents brought in after 3 p.m. will be sent the following school day.
Didn’t have enough time to jot down all of those visits? No fear, our blog is here! You’ll notice on the right hand side, you can access our College Visit calendar. This will always be up to date so be sure to bookmark this site.
Additionally, tonight’s presentation and others will be posted here for your review.
Didn’t have enough time to jot down all of those visits? No fear, our blog is here! You’ll notice on the right hand side, you can access our College Visit calendar. This will always be up to date so be sure to bookmark this site.
Additionally, tonight’s presentation and others will be posted here for your review.
This concludes the main portion of our presentation tonight. We’ll take a few minutes to address questions.
The final part of our presentation tonight, will focus specifically on how admissions decisions are made in the US. If your child does not plan on applying to the US, you are free to leave before we begin.
Don’t forget to pick up the yellow timeline before you leave this evening.