1. Associate interview prep By Andrew Wilcox President Wilcox and Hackett, LLC Andrew@Wilcox-legal.com www.Wilcox-legal.com (850) 893-8984
2. Associate interview process What does a good opportunity look like? Searching discreetly What documents do you need to assemble Researching the firms/ opportunities before meeting What to expect at the first meeting Questioning model How many steps Interview fatigue Evaluating options Negotiating your package Leaving your current firm
3. What does a good opportunity look like? What is driving your openness to change? What complimentary areas of practice, geographical needs, cultural needs, environmental needs? Money minimums Realistic expectations Unresolved issues Is the timing right?
4. Searching discreetly Who knows you are looking? Do not discuss with anyone at your firm unless you are comfortable with everyone knowing. Limit number of search firms that you use and don’t be afraid to ask for references. Keep a list of who you are submitted to. Firms receiving your resume multiple times will ONLY HURT YOU Research up front before releasing any information Avoid “spray and pray” tactic Limit initial search to best initial fit
5. What documents do you need to assemble Update resume. Not just web bio. Names of firms, dates, locations, detailed experience, civic activities, 3rd party ratings, publications, seminars, etc. Writing samples or deal lists Writing samples 2-3 that you are particularly proud of, a partner spoke highly of, or ended in a positive event Deal list- transaction size and brief scope Law school transcript Business plan – more for senior associates, but great differentiator for junior associates Firms lose money up front, show value and path to profitability Shows your level of interest and thought process References Mix of judges, partners, colleagues. If possible specific to geography or practice areas List of clients Will help shorten up the conflicts check feedback. After first meeting and determining if next steps are warranted Qualify the opportunity in or out quickly General due diligence form (optional)
6. Researching the firms/ opportunities before meeting Read their website, but don’t stop there. What is their structure? Partners to associate ratio? Possible billable requirements, 10k foot view of benefits, turnover ratio. Blogs Business Journals Findlaw.com, Martindale.com, Google.com Close circle of friends, colleagues, network Look up who you may be working with. Do they already do a lot of the same work? Do they have a strong leader in your practice area? What is their reputation? Just the facts Every firm has disgruntled past employees Timeliness of info. If asking someone that had experience 5 years ago, is the information still valid?
29. High level question- “What are you hoping to accomplish by bringing on a commercial litigation partner for your Miami office?” “How are you going about achieving your growth goals as a firm?”
30. Facilitate discussion (How much is it costing them to do it the way that they are doing it today? Are they having to send that work out to another firm currently? What is that costing them? What kinds of things have they found that are holding them back from achieving their goals? Cost issues around expenses, client development, training, IT systems, billing systems, research, turnover, etc. What is the average tenure of their support staff? (If they treat them well chances are they treat everyone well.)
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32. If you are just going to cost them money, why should they hire you?
34. High level question- “What options have you considered in attempting to solve these issues?”
35. Facilitate value discussion- “So when looking to be able to keep more construction work internally, would it improve your profits per case if you had an attorney within your firm that had specific experience in construction litigation, defects? How many cases do you think you could keep internally? What is the average case worth?
36. Confirm- So if you had someone with specific experience in construction litigation, you believe that you would be able to keep at least 90% of the work internally. This would increase your revenue by 500k per year. Is that accurate?
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40. Your questions and answers should be fresh. Hard to do if you have asked and given them a lot.
50. Negotiating your package Negotiation happens throughout the process. Not just at the end. Should have established “a number” somewhere early in the process. May be at first meeting. Definitely during mutual evaluation period, but after value has been established. Otherwise just a number. If value has been established, the number should be close. Be careful how much more that you ask for. Don’t be the outlier on the high side. The best answer that I have heard…”I just want what everyone else is getting, no more, no less. I do want the opportunity to make more based on hitting mutually agreed upon numbers.”
51. Leaving your current firm Take the high road. Do not let anyone take you down a path you don’t want to go. Expect the worst reaction from current employer, but hope for best. Avoid email blasts. Stay positive, but point to future opportunities. Avoid the temptation of more money being thrown at you. There is a reason why you are leaving. If you are underpaid in the market and they wait until one foot is out of the door to offer more, it’s not worth it. Try and maintain the relationship. Put the clients interest first Remember that no matter how bad it may get, you are moving on.
52. www.Wilcox-legal.com I welcome any feedback or questions that you may have about opportunities in your area. Andrew Wilcox President Wilcox and Hackett, LLC Andrew@Wilcox-legal.com www.Wilcox-legal.com http://lawfirmrainmaker.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/wilcoxlegal (850) 893-8984