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The Non-Speaking Attitude of Women throughout History

       Historically speaking, women have had very little say in most educational and political

arenas until fairly recently. In world history women were treated as second-class citizens who

listened, and did not speak. In this paper I will discuss this further with two primary sources

Lessons for Women by Pan Chao and Precepts for Social Life by YüanTs’ai. I will also take a

look at a historically groundbreaking text The Republic by Plato that said nearly the opposite of

women’s abilities that history had always thought was true even after this document was written.

       Ancient China was a hotbed for the mistreatment of women. All through Ancient Chinese

history women are treated as inferior to men in every way except for the keeping of the house.

Women were treated horribly simply because they didn’t have the strength to do the things that

men did. A family looked down upon having female children, and if times got tough killing

female children was not uncommon to keep food on the table for other members of the family.

Another reason for the dislike of female children is that around the time of medieval china the

girls’ family had to pay dowry to the males’ family, not the other way around. This shift made it

highly costly to have a girl, so therefore it was more cost efficient to have a boy. In Ancient

China it was also highly unlikely for a woman to hold a formal position, sometimes she worked

through her husband if he had a powerful position, but this was highly frowned upon.

       Lessons for Women by Pan Chao is a primary source written by a woman about how

women who practiced Confucianism were expected to behave in her time. While Precepts for

Social Life by YüanTs’ai was a primary source written by a man about how he believed women

in Sung Dynasty China were to act.

       As Pan Chao introduces her writing you can bluntly see that she was taught that women

were inferior when she says, “I, the unworthy writer, am unsophisticated, unenlightened, and by
nature unintelligent,” (Lessons for Women, p. 164) From the get go, you can tell that women in

Ancient China were taught that education simply was not a female thing, they were taught from

birth that they were simply not intelligent enough to get an education or to write well. They

simply didn’t have the same capacity as men in these circuits. Not only were they taught this but

they were also taught that it was not nurture that made them this way, it was the very nature or

fiber of being a female that made them this way.

        According to Pan Chao a families first duties three days after birthing a girl were to put

her below the bed, by doing this it would indicate “that she is lowly and weak, and should regard

it as her primary duty to humble herself before others.” (Lessons for Women, p. 165) This shows

that before they were even able to think well there was a distinct difference between a female

and male child. It made it apparent early on that women were not as good as men, and that they

would never be so. Women were inferior, and that was that.

        Pan Chao compared men and women to yin and yang by saying, “The distinctive quality

of yang is rigidity; the function of the yin is yielding. Man is honored for strength; a woman is

beautiful on account of her gentleness.” (Lessons for Women, p. 166) As I just touched on there

is a huge difference between males and females in Ancient Chinese culture. Males were

considered the strong breadwinning characters, while females were considered small, gentle,

caring, silent souls. A woman’s primary responsibility was silence and obeying the male

characters in her life.

        YüanTs’ai believed that women should be comfortable with keeping their affairs inside

the home. He says, “Women do not take part in extra-familial affairs. The reason is that the

worthy husbands and sons take care of everything for them, while unworthy ones can always

find ways to hide their deeds from the women.” He goes on to talk about how some men take
part in gambling, and that even if the man is gambling away the house, women should not step in

to take the lead. (Precepts for Social Life, p. 188) In my opinion this doesn’t sound very smart.

It’s basically saying that even if the man in the family is being completely reckless and ruining

the life of the family women should let them do that.

       He goes on to talk about how women can’t do much in this situation when he writes, “For

women, these are grave misfortunes, but what can they do? If husbands and sons could only

remember that their wives and mothers are helpless and suddenly repent, would that not be

best?” (Precepts for Social Life, p. 188) In my opinion, that is like saying I’d rather you wait for

the impossible to happen than take initiative…because you’re a women and you are weak. It

makes no sense to me personally, because if I were a women and my husband were running

things to the ground I’d want to step in, but in this time in Asia they thought men were the only

people capable of money management, education, et cetera.

       In Ancient Greece women were treated somewhat better than in Ancient China, but their

primary responsibility was still considering being a wife and a mother. They were citizens that

could participate in some religious festivals, but they were pretty excluded from much else. They

couldn’t own real estate, and only had rights to some personal property, and they needed a male

to look after them. Greek women were to be wives and have children.

       Now I am going to take a look at another primary source that speaks volumes of women

and their abilities. The Republic by Plato is one of Plato’s dialogues. It talks about how Plato

feels women should be educated in Greece.

       Plato makes a huge point when he writes, “Are dogs divided into hes and shes, or do they

both share equally in hunting and in keeping watch and in the other duties of dogs? Or do we

entrust to the males the entire and exclusive care of the flocks,” (The Republic,p. 62) This is very
true, when people in classical Greece depended on other animals to do their work they didn’t

separate the animals from each other and only let the male animals do the work while they let the

female animals tend to the home front.

       The next brilliant point Plato makes takes place when he says this, “But, can you use

different animals for the same purpose, unless they are bred and fed in the same way? You

cannot. Then, if women are to have the same duties as men, they must have the same nurture and

education? Yes.” (The Republic, p. 62) This is very true, at this point people had not tried to

educate women in the same way; they just judged their levels of brain power off of something

that was not really proven. They never set out to prove that men were better than women,

because they never trained women alongside men for the same jobs. In order to have a clear view

about women, you have to educate both sexes and give each gender a chance.

       Plato also makes a good point in his stating that men and women have different strengths,

when he writes, “Men and women alike possess the qualities which make a guardian; they differ

only in their comparative strength or weakness.” (The Republic,p. 64) This is true; men and

women are capable of similar things, but only to a certain degree. Most women just are strong

enough to do some of the things men can do. It’s not much of a battle of brains, but a battle of

brawns that women and men fight.

       As can be seen using primary sources, women were treated unfairly in Asia and even in

Ancient Greece. Plato had a huge point when it came to the education of women. No one ever

considered that you have to educate women and men in the same way in order to know if women

have the same capabilities as men.

       In society today you see a lot of women in the workplace. In most universities you can

actually see more women in classrooms and around campus. Women today have some of the
same opportunities as men, but are still discriminated against in terms of employment and

income. Women have definitely moved up in terms of career opportunities, and even excel in

man dominated turf such as sports. In the next few years we can hopefully see more deep

changes in how women are treated in the workforce, and potentially close the income gap as

well.

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The Non-Speaking Attitude of Women Throughout History

  • 1. The Non-Speaking Attitude of Women throughout History Historically speaking, women have had very little say in most educational and political arenas until fairly recently. In world history women were treated as second-class citizens who listened, and did not speak. In this paper I will discuss this further with two primary sources Lessons for Women by Pan Chao and Precepts for Social Life by YüanTs’ai. I will also take a look at a historically groundbreaking text The Republic by Plato that said nearly the opposite of women’s abilities that history had always thought was true even after this document was written. Ancient China was a hotbed for the mistreatment of women. All through Ancient Chinese history women are treated as inferior to men in every way except for the keeping of the house. Women were treated horribly simply because they didn’t have the strength to do the things that men did. A family looked down upon having female children, and if times got tough killing female children was not uncommon to keep food on the table for other members of the family. Another reason for the dislike of female children is that around the time of medieval china the girls’ family had to pay dowry to the males’ family, not the other way around. This shift made it highly costly to have a girl, so therefore it was more cost efficient to have a boy. In Ancient China it was also highly unlikely for a woman to hold a formal position, sometimes she worked through her husband if he had a powerful position, but this was highly frowned upon. Lessons for Women by Pan Chao is a primary source written by a woman about how women who practiced Confucianism were expected to behave in her time. While Precepts for Social Life by YüanTs’ai was a primary source written by a man about how he believed women in Sung Dynasty China were to act. As Pan Chao introduces her writing you can bluntly see that she was taught that women were inferior when she says, “I, the unworthy writer, am unsophisticated, unenlightened, and by
  • 2. nature unintelligent,” (Lessons for Women, p. 164) From the get go, you can tell that women in Ancient China were taught that education simply was not a female thing, they were taught from birth that they were simply not intelligent enough to get an education or to write well. They simply didn’t have the same capacity as men in these circuits. Not only were they taught this but they were also taught that it was not nurture that made them this way, it was the very nature or fiber of being a female that made them this way. According to Pan Chao a families first duties three days after birthing a girl were to put her below the bed, by doing this it would indicate “that she is lowly and weak, and should regard it as her primary duty to humble herself before others.” (Lessons for Women, p. 165) This shows that before they were even able to think well there was a distinct difference between a female and male child. It made it apparent early on that women were not as good as men, and that they would never be so. Women were inferior, and that was that. Pan Chao compared men and women to yin and yang by saying, “The distinctive quality of yang is rigidity; the function of the yin is yielding. Man is honored for strength; a woman is beautiful on account of her gentleness.” (Lessons for Women, p. 166) As I just touched on there is a huge difference between males and females in Ancient Chinese culture. Males were considered the strong breadwinning characters, while females were considered small, gentle, caring, silent souls. A woman’s primary responsibility was silence and obeying the male characters in her life. YüanTs’ai believed that women should be comfortable with keeping their affairs inside the home. He says, “Women do not take part in extra-familial affairs. The reason is that the worthy husbands and sons take care of everything for them, while unworthy ones can always find ways to hide their deeds from the women.” He goes on to talk about how some men take
  • 3. part in gambling, and that even if the man is gambling away the house, women should not step in to take the lead. (Precepts for Social Life, p. 188) In my opinion this doesn’t sound very smart. It’s basically saying that even if the man in the family is being completely reckless and ruining the life of the family women should let them do that. He goes on to talk about how women can’t do much in this situation when he writes, “For women, these are grave misfortunes, but what can they do? If husbands and sons could only remember that their wives and mothers are helpless and suddenly repent, would that not be best?” (Precepts for Social Life, p. 188) In my opinion, that is like saying I’d rather you wait for the impossible to happen than take initiative…because you’re a women and you are weak. It makes no sense to me personally, because if I were a women and my husband were running things to the ground I’d want to step in, but in this time in Asia they thought men were the only people capable of money management, education, et cetera. In Ancient Greece women were treated somewhat better than in Ancient China, but their primary responsibility was still considering being a wife and a mother. They were citizens that could participate in some religious festivals, but they were pretty excluded from much else. They couldn’t own real estate, and only had rights to some personal property, and they needed a male to look after them. Greek women were to be wives and have children. Now I am going to take a look at another primary source that speaks volumes of women and their abilities. The Republic by Plato is one of Plato’s dialogues. It talks about how Plato feels women should be educated in Greece. Plato makes a huge point when he writes, “Are dogs divided into hes and shes, or do they both share equally in hunting and in keeping watch and in the other duties of dogs? Or do we entrust to the males the entire and exclusive care of the flocks,” (The Republic,p. 62) This is very
  • 4. true, when people in classical Greece depended on other animals to do their work they didn’t separate the animals from each other and only let the male animals do the work while they let the female animals tend to the home front. The next brilliant point Plato makes takes place when he says this, “But, can you use different animals for the same purpose, unless they are bred and fed in the same way? You cannot. Then, if women are to have the same duties as men, they must have the same nurture and education? Yes.” (The Republic, p. 62) This is very true, at this point people had not tried to educate women in the same way; they just judged their levels of brain power off of something that was not really proven. They never set out to prove that men were better than women, because they never trained women alongside men for the same jobs. In order to have a clear view about women, you have to educate both sexes and give each gender a chance. Plato also makes a good point in his stating that men and women have different strengths, when he writes, “Men and women alike possess the qualities which make a guardian; they differ only in their comparative strength or weakness.” (The Republic,p. 64) This is true; men and women are capable of similar things, but only to a certain degree. Most women just are strong enough to do some of the things men can do. It’s not much of a battle of brains, but a battle of brawns that women and men fight. As can be seen using primary sources, women were treated unfairly in Asia and even in Ancient Greece. Plato had a huge point when it came to the education of women. No one ever considered that you have to educate women and men in the same way in order to know if women have the same capabilities as men. In society today you see a lot of women in the workplace. In most universities you can actually see more women in classrooms and around campus. Women today have some of the
  • 5. same opportunities as men, but are still discriminated against in terms of employment and income. Women have definitely moved up in terms of career opportunities, and even excel in man dominated turf such as sports. In the next few years we can hopefully see more deep changes in how women are treated in the workforce, and potentially close the income gap as well.