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SHORT FEEDBACK
LOOPS: THE KEY TO
BUILDING INNOVATIVE
PRODUCTS
WITH WITH JOHANNA ROTHMAN -
MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT, ROTHMAN
CONSULTING GROUP
OCTOBER 19, 2022 AT 11:00 AM
PDT, 2:00 PM EDT, 7:00 PM BST
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WITH WITH JOHANNA ROTHMAN -
MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT, ROTHMAN
CONSULTING GROUP
SHORT FEEDBACK
LOOPS: THE KEY TO
BUILDING
INNOVATIVE
PRODUCTS
Short Feedback Loops:
The Key to Building Innovative
Products
Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
www.jrothman.com
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
“We need innovation!
And we need to plan everything we’ll do
for the next year!”
6
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Product development means we are
all in the innovation business
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Innovation Outside In and Inside Out
• Organizational strategy: problems we
solve for which customers
• Project and product portfolio: choices
about which products to develop
when
• Every team’s product development
8
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
How can we innovate when things
take “so long?”
9
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
We need innovation in our product
development thinking
10
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Move from 12- to 8-Week Plan
11
8 weeks from Idea to Demo
What Do You Think Occurred?
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
What Really Happened
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
“But We Use 2-week Sprints”
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
What Happened in Those 2 Weeks
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Questions for the Chat
• Please answer these questions in the chat:
1. How often do people collaborate on work, so two or more people work on the
same piece of work? (Reduce WIP)
2. How often do you
fi
nish a feature? (approximately, because this is an indicator of
throughput)
3. How often do you feel pressure to start more work?
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Little’s Law Explains Duration
• The more work you have in progress,
the longer it takes to
fi
nish it.
• That increases the average lead time
(cycle time)
• This holds true at all levels of the
organization
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Average Lead Time =
Average Work in Progress
Average Throughput
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Dynamics of Little’s Law
• The longer the team takes to deliver something, the
more pressure to create larger and more extensive
product plans (⬆WIP, ⬇throughput, ⬆cycle time)
• The more product plans, the more pressure the
team feels to increase throughput.They often start
more work (⬆WIP)
• Increased WIP delays all work they
fi
nish in any
given time (⬇ throughput, ⬆ cycle time)
• The lower throughput, the longer everything takes
(⬆cycle time)
• Everything takes longer. (⬆cycle time)
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Average Lead Time =
Average Work in Progress
Average Throughput
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Everyone feels pressure
Pressure reduces learning
Since innovation requires learning, we
get delivery, but not innovation
18
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Innovation Requires Fast Feedback
• Short experiments
• A customer/user/someone can see
• Offer feedback to a person, team, and
more
19
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Product Building Feedback Loops
• Start faster with a shorter backlog
• Get to done faster with:
• Smaller stories
• Collaboration
• Release often to get feedback
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Roadmap Feedback Loops
• Initial product strategy is an
experiment!
• Can change the backlog as often as:
• Team completes a feature & demos
• Customer offers feedback
• Rolling wave planning, not big honking
roadmaps
21
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Strategy Innovation with Shorter Feedback Loops
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Back-of-the-Napkin Feature Cycle Time Calculation
• You can measure cycle time with a
value stream map
• Or, ask:
• How many stories,
fi
xes, or anything
else does the team typically
fi
nish in
one, two, three, or four weeks?
• Is your cycle time where you want it
to be?
23
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Back-of-the-Napkin Roadmap Cycle Time Calculation
• How much do you already have
planned?
• When can you decide to deviate from
that plan? (roadmap cycle time)
• Options for better roadmap cycle
time:
• Plan less in advance
• Commit to “how little” and pull
from below
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Product Roadmaps Are Not Like Car Roadmaps
• How much rolling wave backlog
planning does your org do now?
• Too many product people use
roadmaps that look like Gantt charts.
Instead, choose one small MVP and
then pull more work
• (See the series that starts here:
https://www.jrothman.com/mpd/
2022/06/why-car-roadmaps-are-not-
the-same-as-product-roadmaps-
part-1/)
25
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Use Cycle Time for Durations, Never Story Points
• Story points do not predict duration:
• Ideal time
• No understanding of essential and
accidental complication
• Does not account for delays
• Cycle time does predict duration,
especially when you measure over
time
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
How DoesYour Team Work?
• Collaborate as in mobbing? (
fl
ow
ef
fi
ciency, fastest way to work)
• Cooperate as in work together?
• Totally separately? (resource ef
fi
ciency,
slowest way to work)
27
Flow e
ffi
ciency
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Collaborative Team (Swarm)
28
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Cooperate:We Separate Code Review
29
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
CanYour Team Deploy?
30
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Value Stream Map When Team Works as Individuals
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© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
How does your team work now?
(
fl
ow ef
fi
ciency or resource ef
fi
ciency?)
Will that help you create more innovative
products?
32
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
The more team-based collaboration,
the faster throughput and the more
fun*
33
* In general
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Shorten All Feedback Loops for Innovation
34
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Fast Feedback for Innovation
• Start one thing.
• Finish it.
• Do that again until you satisfy the
customer.
• Shorten all the feedback loops
35
Average Lead Time =
Average Work in Progress
Average Throughput
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
What Product People Can Do
• Ask team members to collaborate to reduce the team’s WIP.
• Help the team pay attention to WIP. Ask:“What will help us get this story to
done today?”
• Instead of long roadmaps and large backlogs, ask:“How little can we do and still
get a valuable result that will tell us what to do next?”
• Monitor your leaders’ decision cycle time. Manage your WIP to support reduced
organizational WIP
36
© 2022 Johanna Rothman
@johannarothman
Let’s Stay in Touch
• Pragmatic Manager:
• www.jrothman.com/
pragmaticmanager
• Please link with me on LinkedIn
• Based on this post: https://
www.jrothman.com/mpd/2020/12/
multiple-short-feedback-loops-support-
innovation/
• More information at https://
www.jrothman.com
37
Management Consultant, Rothman
Consulting Group
Johanna Rothman
/in/johannarothman/
Q&A
Rayvonne Carter
Webinar Coordinator,
Product Management Today
/in/rayvonnecarter/
@ProdMgmtToday
productmanagement
today.com
jrothman.com/blog/mpd/

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Short and Sweet: A Deep Dive Into Concise Feedback Loops

  • 1. SHORT FEEDBACK LOOPS: THE KEY TO BUILDING INNOVATIVE PRODUCTS WITH WITH JOHANNA ROTHMAN - MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT, ROTHMAN CONSULTING GROUP OCTOBER 19, 2022 AT 11:00 AM PDT, 2:00 PM EDT, 7:00 PM BST Product Management Today Empowering you to Empower Them Rayvonne Carter Webinar Coordinator, Product Management Today
  • 2. 03 Applications developed by product teams must provide simple analytics and data visualization features that are tailored to the specific roles and abilities of each user. Logi’s embedded analytics solutions, by Insightsoftware, empower you to design and deploy analytics into the fabric of your organization and products. These analytics integrate with your existing workflows and security models providing a seamless experience where anyone can analyze data, share insights, and make informed decisions. Insightsoftware is a leading provider of reporting, analytics, and performance management solutions. Over 30,000 organizations worldwide rely on them to support business needs in the areas of accounting, finance, operations, supply chain, tax, budgeting, planning, HR, and disclosure management. Insightsoftware enables the Office of the CFO to connect to and make sense of their data in real time so they can proactively drive greater financial intelligence across their organization. Their best-in-class solutions provide customers with increased productivity, visibility, accuracy, and compliance. Learn more about what’s possible with Insightsoftware at insightsoftware.com.
  • 3. TO USE YOUR TELEPHONE: You must select "Use Telephone" after joining and call in using the numbers below. United States: +1 (631) 992-3221 Access Code: 595-010-963 Audio PIN: Shown after joining the webinar TO USE YOUR COMPUTER'S AUDIO: When the webinar begins, you will be connected to audio using your computer's microphone and speakers (VoIP). A headset is recommended. Click on the Questions panel to interact with the presenters
  • 4. WITH WITH JOHANNA ROTHMAN - MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT, ROTHMAN CONSULTING GROUP SHORT FEEDBACK LOOPS: THE KEY TO BUILDING INNOVATIVE PRODUCTS
  • 5. Short Feedback Loops: The Key to Building Innovative Products Johanna Rothman @johannarothman www.jrothman.com
  • 6. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman “We need innovation! And we need to plan everything we’ll do for the next year!” 6
  • 7. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Product development means we are all in the innovation business 7
  • 8. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Innovation Outside In and Inside Out • Organizational strategy: problems we solve for which customers • Project and product portfolio: choices about which products to develop when • Every team’s product development 8
  • 9. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman How can we innovate when things take “so long?” 9
  • 10. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman We need innovation in our product development thinking 10
  • 11. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Move from 12- to 8-Week Plan 11 8 weeks from Idea to Demo What Do You Think Occurred?
  • 12. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman What Really Happened 12
  • 13. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman “But We Use 2-week Sprints” 13
  • 14. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman What Happened in Those 2 Weeks 14
  • 15. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Questions for the Chat • Please answer these questions in the chat: 1. How often do people collaborate on work, so two or more people work on the same piece of work? (Reduce WIP) 2. How often do you fi nish a feature? (approximately, because this is an indicator of throughput) 3. How often do you feel pressure to start more work? 15
  • 16. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Little’s Law Explains Duration • The more work you have in progress, the longer it takes to fi nish it. • That increases the average lead time (cycle time) • This holds true at all levels of the organization 16 Average Lead Time = Average Work in Progress Average Throughput
  • 17. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Dynamics of Little’s Law • The longer the team takes to deliver something, the more pressure to create larger and more extensive product plans (⬆WIP, ⬇throughput, ⬆cycle time) • The more product plans, the more pressure the team feels to increase throughput.They often start more work (⬆WIP) • Increased WIP delays all work they fi nish in any given time (⬇ throughput, ⬆ cycle time) • The lower throughput, the longer everything takes (⬆cycle time) • Everything takes longer. (⬆cycle time) 17 Average Lead Time = Average Work in Progress Average Throughput
  • 18. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Everyone feels pressure Pressure reduces learning Since innovation requires learning, we get delivery, but not innovation 18
  • 19. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Innovation Requires Fast Feedback • Short experiments • A customer/user/someone can see • Offer feedback to a person, team, and more 19
  • 20. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Product Building Feedback Loops • Start faster with a shorter backlog • Get to done faster with: • Smaller stories • Collaboration • Release often to get feedback 20
  • 21. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Roadmap Feedback Loops • Initial product strategy is an experiment! • Can change the backlog as often as: • Team completes a feature & demos • Customer offers feedback • Rolling wave planning, not big honking roadmaps 21
  • 22. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Strategy Innovation with Shorter Feedback Loops 22
  • 23. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Back-of-the-Napkin Feature Cycle Time Calculation • You can measure cycle time with a value stream map • Or, ask: • How many stories, fi xes, or anything else does the team typically fi nish in one, two, three, or four weeks? • Is your cycle time where you want it to be? 23
  • 24. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Back-of-the-Napkin Roadmap Cycle Time Calculation • How much do you already have planned? • When can you decide to deviate from that plan? (roadmap cycle time) • Options for better roadmap cycle time: • Plan less in advance • Commit to “how little” and pull from below 24
  • 25. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Product Roadmaps Are Not Like Car Roadmaps • How much rolling wave backlog planning does your org do now? • Too many product people use roadmaps that look like Gantt charts. Instead, choose one small MVP and then pull more work • (See the series that starts here: https://www.jrothman.com/mpd/ 2022/06/why-car-roadmaps-are-not- the-same-as-product-roadmaps- part-1/) 25
  • 26. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Use Cycle Time for Durations, Never Story Points • Story points do not predict duration: • Ideal time • No understanding of essential and accidental complication • Does not account for delays • Cycle time does predict duration, especially when you measure over time 26
  • 27. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman How DoesYour Team Work? • Collaborate as in mobbing? ( fl ow ef fi ciency, fastest way to work) • Cooperate as in work together? • Totally separately? (resource ef fi ciency, slowest way to work) 27 Flow e ffi ciency
  • 28. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Collaborative Team (Swarm) 28
  • 29. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Cooperate:We Separate Code Review 29
  • 30. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman CanYour Team Deploy? 30
  • 31. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Value Stream Map When Team Works as Individuals 31
  • 32. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman How does your team work now? ( fl ow ef fi ciency or resource ef fi ciency?) Will that help you create more innovative products? 32
  • 33. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman The more team-based collaboration, the faster throughput and the more fun* 33 * In general
  • 34. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Shorten All Feedback Loops for Innovation 34
  • 35. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Fast Feedback for Innovation • Start one thing. • Finish it. • Do that again until you satisfy the customer. • Shorten all the feedback loops 35 Average Lead Time = Average Work in Progress Average Throughput
  • 36. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman What Product People Can Do • Ask team members to collaborate to reduce the team’s WIP. • Help the team pay attention to WIP. Ask:“What will help us get this story to done today?” • Instead of long roadmaps and large backlogs, ask:“How little can we do and still get a valuable result that will tell us what to do next?” • Monitor your leaders’ decision cycle time. Manage your WIP to support reduced organizational WIP 36
  • 37. © 2022 Johanna Rothman @johannarothman Let’s Stay in Touch • Pragmatic Manager: • www.jrothman.com/ pragmaticmanager • Please link with me on LinkedIn • Based on this post: https:// www.jrothman.com/mpd/2020/12/ multiple-short-feedback-loops-support- innovation/ • More information at https:// www.jrothman.com 37
  • 38. Management Consultant, Rothman Consulting Group Johanna Rothman /in/johannarothman/ Q&A Rayvonne Carter Webinar Coordinator, Product Management Today /in/rayvonnecarter/ @ProdMgmtToday productmanagement today.com jrothman.com/blog/mpd/