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Tuesday, July 15th

Debunking the Top Webinar Myths
Executive Summary




Expert Panelists
Kathy Benton, Society for College and University Planning
Chris Grossgart, International Association of Business Communicators
Diane James, Women's Transportation Seminar
Jamie Sadler, ASAE & The Center for Association Leadership
Ursula Sharp, Soundview Executive Book Summaries




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Debunking the Top Webinar Myths
  Moderator: Jack Beaver, KRM Moderator
  Panelists: Kathy Benton, Associate Director of Education and Product Development, Society for College and University Planning
             Chris Grossgart, Senior Vice President of Education, International Association of Business Communicators
             Diane James, Executive Director, Women’s Transportation Seminar
             Jamie Sadler, Senior Manger of Online Learning, ASAE & The Center for Association Leadership
             Ursula Sharp, Strategic Account Manager, Soundview Executive Book Summaries

                                                                                 Diane James indicated that the members of her association are
Overview                                                                         often busiest on Tuesday through Thursday, making Monday and
                                                                                 Friday work well as members have more time on those days.
Many myths exist regarding webinars. Among them are that webi-
nars are expensive and hard to conduct, that association members                         “We haven’t seen much of a difference [in
won’t pay for webinars, and that creating recordings hurts webinar                       attendance] based on the day of the week.”
participation. This group of expert panelists, supported with real-                      ⎯ Jamie Sadler
time polling data from participants and online survey results,
discussed these myths and more.
                                                                                 The panelists concurred that the statement “Association
In fact, webinars are inexpensive and easy to conduct. Many                      members expect webinars at no cost” is a myth.
association members will gladly pay for webinars if the content is               While 53% of online survey participants believe that association
perceived to be valuable, and recordings have no impact on                       members expect webinars at no cost, among virtual seminar
webinar attendance.                                                              participants, only 38% have this expectation. The general view of
                                                                                 the panelists is that while association members would like
The view of the panelists is that webinars are a credible way of                 everything for free, most are prepared to pay for webinars that
conveying information and educating people. The costs are low, the               provide them with important and valuable information.
quality is high, and the potential uses are many. Important to keep
in mind is the need to partner with a reliable, knowledgeable, pro-                      “Members are prepared to pay [for a webinar] if
fessional vendor who can deliver as intended and who can share                           the quality of the session is high.”
knowledge that makes the entire event more valuable.                                     ⎯ Diane James

                                                                                 Other comments on this subject included:
Context                                                                          ⎯ Even paid webinars are a low-cost training option. In compar-
After KRM’s CEO Rick Olson welcomed attendees and introduced                         ison to other options, webinars are extremely low cost. Mul-
the panelists, Jack Beaver led a discussion in which the panelists                   tiple individuals can attend a webinar, the cost per person is
examined many of the most common perceptions (and some mis-                          low (much lower than other training options), and no travel
conceptions) about webinars. The discussion included a review of                     costs are incurred.
real-time survey data among those who participated in this virtual               ⎯ It is common to offer both free and paid webinars. Multiple
seminar as well as data generated by KRM via an online survey.
                                                                                     panelists indicated that their organizations offered some free
                                                                                     webinars, with other webinars coming at a charge.
Key Takeaways                                                                    ⎯ A common practice is to provide members with discounted
                                                                                     pricing. One way that associations convey value to their mem-
  Survey respondents believe that Mondays and Fridays are
                                                                                     bers is by giving them a discounted webinar price. (One
  bad for webinars, but panelists have had some success.
                                                                                     participant’s association gives members a break of roughly
  Among online survey respondents, 73% see Mondays and                               33% per webinar from the “list price.”)
  Fridays as the worst days to hold webinars, and among virtual
  seminar participants responding to the question, 74% agreed.                   ⎯ While free webinars have high registration rates, participation
  Jack Beaver confirmed that in KRM’s experience, Thursday is the                    is often low. One participant shared data indicating that only
  day when the most events are scheduled and Tuesday is when                         20% to 40% of those who register for free webinars actually
  attendance is the greatest. Monday and Friday see the fewest                       come, while attendance is nearly 100% among those who pay
  events scheduled and have the fewest registrations/attendees.                      to attend a webinar. (Virtual seminar attendees and survey
                                                                                     participants felt very strongly that charging a fee is an excel-
  However, Jamie Sadler and Diane James both described suc-                          lent way to reduce no-shows.)
  cessful webinar programs that took place on Monday or Friday.
  As Jamie Sadler shared, “We haven’t seen much of a difference                  Among those organizations that do charge, fees ranged from $35
  [in attendance] based on the day of the week. In fact, a Friday                per site at the low end to around $500 on the high end, with the
  afternoon event was one of the best-attended events we’ve ever                 average in the $200 range.
  had. It depends on your audience and their typical work week.”

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There is no optimum length for a webinar.                                        advance, but having additional promotional activities two
When asked whether 90 minutes is the optimum length for a                        weeks in advance is also important.
webinar, about half of those surveyed online and half of those
participating in the virtual seminar thought it was.                           Email marketing is seen as the best way to promote
                                                                               webinars.
The view of the panelists is that the optimal length depends on                77% of those surveyed online and 82% of virtual seminar
the audience, the subject, and the type of virtual seminar. For                participants agree that email marketing is the best way to
example, one participant cited research indicating that 60 min-                promote webinars. But, as good as email marketing can be,
utes was the right length among her audience for audio seminars                panelists are still continuing to use other marketing avenues such
(45 minutes of content and 15 of Q&A), but for more engaging,                  as direct mail, fax marketing, and partnerships.
interactive web seminars, 90 minutes is the right length.
                                                                               Creating recordings of webinars doesn’t hurt the number
KRM believes that 90 minutes is a good length for interactive                  of registrations for a webinar.
webinars, as it provides ample time for Q&A. But KRM’s clients                 The panelists were in agreement that recordings of webinars
conduct webinars that range from 45 minutes to two hours.                      have not negatively impacted webinar attendance. Jamie Sadler
                                                                               doesn’t believe that recordings have lessened her organization’s
Webinars are not expensive to produce; nor is the                              attendance whatsoever, a thought shared by other participants.
technology difficult to use.
All parties (panelists, virtual seminar participants, and respon-                    “It [recordings] hasn’t affected us at alll.”
dents to KRM’s online survey) were in agreement that webinars                        ⎯ Chris Grossgart
needn’t be expensive to produce. One way that vendors are
making webinars inexpensive is by offering customers a menu                    Recordings provide access to a webinar to those in other time
of options, allowing customers to pick and choose the exact                    zones who may have missed it.
services that they want/need.

      “You can produce good-quality webinars at low cost
                                                                          Other Important Points
      and low risk.”                                                             A credible alternative. Perhaps a decade ago webinars were
      ⎯ Kathy Benton                                                             not viewed as a credible alternative to face-to-face interaction.
                                                                                 While face-to-face is still preferred by most, webinars are now
Everyone also agrees overwhelmingly that webinar technology is                   seen as a highly efficient, credible, and low-cost alternative to
not difficult to use. (This includes 90% of those responding online              interacting in person.
and 85% of virtual seminar participants.) Diane James advised
that even when the technology is simple and reliable, it is still                Webinars vs. audio seminars. Audio seminars are seen by
important to have a “plan B” in case anything goes wrong, as any                 the panelists as being easier and quicker to implement. They
event planner would for a live event. (KRM works with each client                can be pulled together on shorter timing and at lower cost.
on a plan B in the event of a problem.) The panelists believe that               Interactive webinars are seen as having greater value, but they
some basic level of training on the technology can be extremely                  can take longer to prepare and cost more. For quick, tactical
useful, but this training must be quick and efficient.                           subjects an audio seminar may be adequate; for important
                                                                                 strategic subjects for higher-level people, webinars are
      “The technology is not difficult.”                                         probably the preferred option.
      ⎯ Ursula Sharp
                                                                                 Size doesn’t matter. Panelists were in agreement that webi-
                                                                                 nars have value for most organizations, be they large or small.
Four weeks before a webinar is a good time to begin pro-                         Even small organizations can derive significant value from
moting it, but it is not the only time to do so.                                 webinars
When asked whether four weeks was the best time to begin pro-
                                                                                 Getting started. For those interested in getting started in con-
moting a webinar, just under 50% of survey respondents and
                                                                                 ducting webinars, the panelists advised: speaking with others
virtual seminar participants said yes.
                                                                                 who have conducted webinars to learn from them; tapping into
                                                                                 resources that are available from ASAE; and leveraging the
Four weeks is seen as a sweet spot and a good time to initiate
                                                                                 knowledge and expertise of vendors, such as KRM.
promotional activities. But:
⎯ Many organizations publish an event calendar months in ad-                         “We’ve relied on KRM; they’ve walked us through
  vance. Their hope is that when individuals see this calendar                       everything.”
  with a great deal of lead time they will be more likely to                         ⎯ Chris Grossgart
  register.
                                                                                 Picking the right vendor. Panelists noted that it is important
⎯ Despite all advance efforts, most registrants sign up in the last              for users of webinars to conduct thorough due diligence on
  two weeks prior to an event. So, it may make sense to have                     their potential vendors, conduct a “test drive,” and choose a
  intensive promotional activities that begin four weeks in                      vendor whom they trust. They also recommend having back-


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up plans, such as a paper copy of the PowerPoint slides to                   stand the subjects of the greatest interest to them. One
work from.                                                                   panelist noted that her organization tries to find topics that they
                                                                             are in a unique position to offer. Planning webinars is different
Issuing certificates. Different organizations have different                 from planning face-to-face events and it is important to find
philosophies regarding whether webinars are conducted solely                 speakers who are comfortable with the webinar medium.
for learning purposes, or if webinars help participants earn
continuing education credits and certification.                              Paying speakers. Different organizations have different
                                                                             philosophies regarding paying webinar speakers. Some
Repeat attendees. The rate of repeat webinar attendees                       organizations don’t pay at all. For these organizations,
varies. One panelist shared data indicating that her organiza-               speakers participate as a way to contribute to the profession
tion’s repeat attendee rate is 8% to 10%; another panelist said              and to get exposure. In situations where speakers are paid,
that about 15% of their attendees participate in three or more               they might receive a flat fee (such as a $350 honorarium) or a
webinars per year. In general, attendance is driven by the                   portion of the revenues generated (such as $35 per registrant).
subject matter, the speaker, and the marketing effort.
                                                                             Content ownership. In most instances the panelists’ organi-
Providing a package. One panelist commented that they don’t                  zations see the speaker as the owner of the content and the
just conduct webinars; they provide participants a “package”                 organization as the owner of the program. Most organizations
which includes tools that capture the key takeaways and pro-                 have a contract with the speakers; the speaker provides the
vide guidance in applying these takeaways in their jobs.                     organization with the rights to sell and distribute the content
Picking topics. The panelists are focused on conducting                      from the webinar.
extensive research among their target audiences to under-




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Debunking the-top-webinar-myths

  • 1. Powered by Panel Discussion Tuesday, July 15th Debunking the Top Webinar Myths Executive Summary Expert Panelists Kathy Benton, Society for College and University Planning Chris Grossgart, International Association of Business Communicators Diane James, Women's Transportation Seminar Jamie Sadler, ASAE & The Center for Association Leadership Ursula Sharp, Soundview Executive Book Summaries Executive Summary produced for KRM by
  • 2. KRM Virtual Seminar Powered by: Debunking the Top Webinar Myths July 15, 2008 Debunking the Top Webinar Myths Moderator: Jack Beaver, KRM Moderator Panelists: Kathy Benton, Associate Director of Education and Product Development, Society for College and University Planning Chris Grossgart, Senior Vice President of Education, International Association of Business Communicators Diane James, Executive Director, Women’s Transportation Seminar Jamie Sadler, Senior Manger of Online Learning, ASAE & The Center for Association Leadership Ursula Sharp, Strategic Account Manager, Soundview Executive Book Summaries Diane James indicated that the members of her association are Overview often busiest on Tuesday through Thursday, making Monday and Friday work well as members have more time on those days. Many myths exist regarding webinars. Among them are that webi- nars are expensive and hard to conduct, that association members “We haven’t seen much of a difference [in won’t pay for webinars, and that creating recordings hurts webinar attendance] based on the day of the week.” participation. This group of expert panelists, supported with real- ⎯ Jamie Sadler time polling data from participants and online survey results, discussed these myths and more. The panelists concurred that the statement “Association In fact, webinars are inexpensive and easy to conduct. Many members expect webinars at no cost” is a myth. association members will gladly pay for webinars if the content is While 53% of online survey participants believe that association perceived to be valuable, and recordings have no impact on members expect webinars at no cost, among virtual seminar webinar attendance. participants, only 38% have this expectation. The general view of the panelists is that while association members would like The view of the panelists is that webinars are a credible way of everything for free, most are prepared to pay for webinars that conveying information and educating people. The costs are low, the provide them with important and valuable information. quality is high, and the potential uses are many. Important to keep in mind is the need to partner with a reliable, knowledgeable, pro- “Members are prepared to pay [for a webinar] if fessional vendor who can deliver as intended and who can share the quality of the session is high.” knowledge that makes the entire event more valuable. ⎯ Diane James Other comments on this subject included: Context ⎯ Even paid webinars are a low-cost training option. In compar- After KRM’s CEO Rick Olson welcomed attendees and introduced ison to other options, webinars are extremely low cost. Mul- the panelists, Jack Beaver led a discussion in which the panelists tiple individuals can attend a webinar, the cost per person is examined many of the most common perceptions (and some mis- low (much lower than other training options), and no travel conceptions) about webinars. The discussion included a review of costs are incurred. real-time survey data among those who participated in this virtual ⎯ It is common to offer both free and paid webinars. Multiple seminar as well as data generated by KRM via an online survey. panelists indicated that their organizations offered some free webinars, with other webinars coming at a charge. Key Takeaways ⎯ A common practice is to provide members with discounted pricing. One way that associations convey value to their mem- Survey respondents believe that Mondays and Fridays are bers is by giving them a discounted webinar price. (One bad for webinars, but panelists have had some success. participant’s association gives members a break of roughly Among online survey respondents, 73% see Mondays and 33% per webinar from the “list price.”) Fridays as the worst days to hold webinars, and among virtual seminar participants responding to the question, 74% agreed. ⎯ While free webinars have high registration rates, participation Jack Beaver confirmed that in KRM’s experience, Thursday is the is often low. One participant shared data indicating that only day when the most events are scheduled and Tuesday is when 20% to 40% of those who register for free webinars actually attendance is the greatest. Monday and Friday see the fewest come, while attendance is nearly 100% among those who pay events scheduled and have the fewest registrations/attendees. to attend a webinar. (Virtual seminar attendees and survey participants felt very strongly that charging a fee is an excel- However, Jamie Sadler and Diane James both described suc- lent way to reduce no-shows.) cessful webinar programs that took place on Monday or Friday. As Jamie Sadler shared, “We haven’t seen much of a difference Among those organizations that do charge, fees ranged from $35 [in attendance] based on the day of the week. In fact, a Friday per site at the low end to around $500 on the high end, with the afternoon event was one of the best-attended events we’ve ever average in the $200 range. had. It depends on your audience and their typical work week.” Executive Summary Created by: Page 1
  • 3. KRM Virtual Seminar Powered by: Debunking the Top Webinar Myths July 15, 2008 There is no optimum length for a webinar. advance, but having additional promotional activities two When asked whether 90 minutes is the optimum length for a weeks in advance is also important. webinar, about half of those surveyed online and half of those participating in the virtual seminar thought it was. Email marketing is seen as the best way to promote webinars. The view of the panelists is that the optimal length depends on 77% of those surveyed online and 82% of virtual seminar the audience, the subject, and the type of virtual seminar. For participants agree that email marketing is the best way to example, one participant cited research indicating that 60 min- promote webinars. But, as good as email marketing can be, utes was the right length among her audience for audio seminars panelists are still continuing to use other marketing avenues such (45 minutes of content and 15 of Q&A), but for more engaging, as direct mail, fax marketing, and partnerships. interactive web seminars, 90 minutes is the right length. Creating recordings of webinars doesn’t hurt the number KRM believes that 90 minutes is a good length for interactive of registrations for a webinar. webinars, as it provides ample time for Q&A. But KRM’s clients The panelists were in agreement that recordings of webinars conduct webinars that range from 45 minutes to two hours. have not negatively impacted webinar attendance. Jamie Sadler doesn’t believe that recordings have lessened her organization’s Webinars are not expensive to produce; nor is the attendance whatsoever, a thought shared by other participants. technology difficult to use. All parties (panelists, virtual seminar participants, and respon- “It [recordings] hasn’t affected us at alll.” dents to KRM’s online survey) were in agreement that webinars ⎯ Chris Grossgart needn’t be expensive to produce. One way that vendors are making webinars inexpensive is by offering customers a menu Recordings provide access to a webinar to those in other time of options, allowing customers to pick and choose the exact zones who may have missed it. services that they want/need. “You can produce good-quality webinars at low cost Other Important Points and low risk.” A credible alternative. Perhaps a decade ago webinars were ⎯ Kathy Benton not viewed as a credible alternative to face-to-face interaction. While face-to-face is still preferred by most, webinars are now Everyone also agrees overwhelmingly that webinar technology is seen as a highly efficient, credible, and low-cost alternative to not difficult to use. (This includes 90% of those responding online interacting in person. and 85% of virtual seminar participants.) Diane James advised that even when the technology is simple and reliable, it is still Webinars vs. audio seminars. Audio seminars are seen by important to have a “plan B” in case anything goes wrong, as any the panelists as being easier and quicker to implement. They event planner would for a live event. (KRM works with each client can be pulled together on shorter timing and at lower cost. on a plan B in the event of a problem.) The panelists believe that Interactive webinars are seen as having greater value, but they some basic level of training on the technology can be extremely can take longer to prepare and cost more. For quick, tactical useful, but this training must be quick and efficient. subjects an audio seminar may be adequate; for important strategic subjects for higher-level people, webinars are “The technology is not difficult.” probably the preferred option. ⎯ Ursula Sharp Size doesn’t matter. Panelists were in agreement that webi- nars have value for most organizations, be they large or small. Four weeks before a webinar is a good time to begin pro- Even small organizations can derive significant value from moting it, but it is not the only time to do so. webinars When asked whether four weeks was the best time to begin pro- Getting started. For those interested in getting started in con- moting a webinar, just under 50% of survey respondents and ducting webinars, the panelists advised: speaking with others virtual seminar participants said yes. who have conducted webinars to learn from them; tapping into resources that are available from ASAE; and leveraging the Four weeks is seen as a sweet spot and a good time to initiate knowledge and expertise of vendors, such as KRM. promotional activities. But: ⎯ Many organizations publish an event calendar months in ad- “We’ve relied on KRM; they’ve walked us through vance. Their hope is that when individuals see this calendar everything.” with a great deal of lead time they will be more likely to ⎯ Chris Grossgart register. Picking the right vendor. Panelists noted that it is important ⎯ Despite all advance efforts, most registrants sign up in the last for users of webinars to conduct thorough due diligence on two weeks prior to an event. So, it may make sense to have their potential vendors, conduct a “test drive,” and choose a intensive promotional activities that begin four weeks in vendor whom they trust. They also recommend having back- Executive Summary Created by: Page 2
  • 4. KRM Virtual Seminar Powered by: Debunking the Top Webinar Myths July 15, 2008 up plans, such as a paper copy of the PowerPoint slides to stand the subjects of the greatest interest to them. One work from. panelist noted that her organization tries to find topics that they are in a unique position to offer. Planning webinars is different Issuing certificates. Different organizations have different from planning face-to-face events and it is important to find philosophies regarding whether webinars are conducted solely speakers who are comfortable with the webinar medium. for learning purposes, or if webinars help participants earn continuing education credits and certification. Paying speakers. Different organizations have different philosophies regarding paying webinar speakers. Some Repeat attendees. The rate of repeat webinar attendees organizations don’t pay at all. For these organizations, varies. One panelist shared data indicating that her organiza- speakers participate as a way to contribute to the profession tion’s repeat attendee rate is 8% to 10%; another panelist said and to get exposure. In situations where speakers are paid, that about 15% of their attendees participate in three or more they might receive a flat fee (such as a $350 honorarium) or a webinars per year. In general, attendance is driven by the portion of the revenues generated (such as $35 per registrant). subject matter, the speaker, and the marketing effort. Content ownership. In most instances the panelists’ organi- Providing a package. One panelist commented that they don’t zations see the speaker as the owner of the content and the just conduct webinars; they provide participants a “package” organization as the owner of the program. Most organizations which includes tools that capture the key takeaways and pro- have a contract with the speakers; the speaker provides the vide guidance in applying these takeaways in their jobs. organization with the rights to sell and distribute the content Picking topics. The panelists are focused on conducting from the webinar. extensive research among their target audiences to under- Executive Summary Created by: Page 3