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ITIL and DevOps can
be friends
Jan-Joost Bouwman, Ingrid Algra
Implementing Agile ITSM @ ING Netherlands
DOES2015 San Francisco• 19 October 2015
Jan-Joost Bouwman
• Process Owner Change Management
• DevOps Community manager @ ING
• Background in Operations and Processes
• >15 years of experience in IT
• Birdwatcher, travelling the world for birds
• @JanJoostBouwman
Ingrid Algra
• IT Chapter Lead
• Integration layer girl
• >15 years of experience in IT
• @ING since: 01-10-2000
• Aerobics, horseback riding
• @ingridweij
2
Introducing us
Market leaders Benelux
Growth markets
Commercial Banking
Challengers
3
Who is ING?
4
At ING the role of IT has changed from service to strategy driver
Clear and easy
Today straight through processing enables ING to deliver a 5 min instantaneous offering
Anytime & anywhere
Today internet & mobile enable ING´s customers to do their banking 24x7 via Mobile or the internet
Empower
Today CRM and predictive banking solutions enable ING to focus on helping customers to understand
their future prosperity
Keep getting better
Agile development methods have enabled ING to constantly deliver new value to our customers
Transition of the organisation
Transition of the organisation
2011
Transition of the organisation
2011 2013
Transition of the organisation
2011 2013 2015
9
The great divide
10
The great divide
DevOps teams:
We don’t want to do ITIL anymore!
It is so much administration and
we don’t see the added value.
We only want to use a backlog.
11
The great divide
Risk Management:
We still need ITIL to prove to our
regulators we are in control! You
have to use it!
DevOps teams:
We don’t want to do ITIL anymore!
It is so much administration and
we don’t see the added value.
We only want to use a backlog.
12
There may be a way to restore the peace!
13
There may be a way to restore the peace!
Eliminating duplicate administration,
making the ITIL Processes as lean as
possible.
Introducing…
14
There may be a way to restore the peace!
Eliminating duplicate administration,
making the ITIL Processes as lean as
possible.
Introducing…
Solving incidents should not affect team
predictability (Sprint goal)
• Each Sprint has reserved capacity for
operational tasks
• Recommended 30% - but base it on historical
data
• Priority 1 and 2 incidents must be solved
immediately
• Lower priority within bandwidth
• Outside bandwidth after approval of Product
Owner
15
Incident management in ING Agile ITSM
means utilising bandwidth
Strive for Today in – Today out (TiTo)
Working with almost empty incident queues gives more satisfaction and a competitive mindset
Each team has a dashboard showing open incidents in real time
16
Changes:
• Workarounds in Knowledge systems
• No more Known Error record
Problem records still require minimal registration
(status, short description):
• Reassignment to other teams
• Management reports & dashboards
• Linking incident records for insight in
reoccurrence
Minimise build up of Technical Debt by aiming for
This Sprint In Next Sprint Out (TSINSO)
Problem Management tasks managed as
User Story in the Product Backlog
17
18
In Change management we take the biggest steps
19
In Change management we take the biggest steps
We still need to manually change
our CI’s.
Possible improvements:
• Discovered data
• Automated generation of CI’s in
the CD Pipeline
CFG is more in the ‘new’ world!
• Also includes building actual
configurations of applications and
the stack
• And keeping those in version
control
20
Configuration Management: more progress to be made
• Customer focus (reliability)
• Feedback loop (mostly incident
management)
• Uniform process
• Discipline
What can Agile/Scrum learn from ITIL?
21
• Need for speed
• Customer focus (adding value)
• Limiting WiP
• Feedback loop (what customers really
want)
22
What can ITIL learn from Agile/Scrum?
• no real conflict.
• ITIL still has adds value ta a DevOps way
of work.
• It does help to make the processes as
lean as possible
• ITIL and Agile/Scrum/DevOps can work
together
• This requires understanding and
acceptance of each other’s expertise
23
Wrap up
Thank you
@ingridweij
@JanJoostBouwman
visuals by Isabelle Hörl:
www.isabellehorl.com | @IsabelleHorl
we are hiring!

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ITIL and DevOps can be friends

  • 1. ITIL and DevOps can be friends Jan-Joost Bouwman, Ingrid Algra Implementing Agile ITSM @ ING Netherlands DOES2015 San Francisco• 19 October 2015
  • 2. Jan-Joost Bouwman • Process Owner Change Management • DevOps Community manager @ ING • Background in Operations and Processes • >15 years of experience in IT • Birdwatcher, travelling the world for birds • @JanJoostBouwman Ingrid Algra • IT Chapter Lead • Integration layer girl • >15 years of experience in IT • @ING since: 01-10-2000 • Aerobics, horseback riding • @ingridweij 2 Introducing us
  • 3. Market leaders Benelux Growth markets Commercial Banking Challengers 3 Who is ING?
  • 4. 4 At ING the role of IT has changed from service to strategy driver Clear and easy Today straight through processing enables ING to deliver a 5 min instantaneous offering Anytime & anywhere Today internet & mobile enable ING´s customers to do their banking 24x7 via Mobile or the internet Empower Today CRM and predictive banking solutions enable ING to focus on helping customers to understand their future prosperity Keep getting better Agile development methods have enabled ING to constantly deliver new value to our customers
  • 5. Transition of the organisation
  • 6. Transition of the organisation 2011
  • 7. Transition of the organisation 2011 2013
  • 8. Transition of the organisation 2011 2013 2015
  • 10. 10 The great divide DevOps teams: We don’t want to do ITIL anymore! It is so much administration and we don’t see the added value. We only want to use a backlog.
  • 11. 11 The great divide Risk Management: We still need ITIL to prove to our regulators we are in control! You have to use it! DevOps teams: We don’t want to do ITIL anymore! It is so much administration and we don’t see the added value. We only want to use a backlog.
  • 12. 12 There may be a way to restore the peace!
  • 13. 13 There may be a way to restore the peace! Eliminating duplicate administration, making the ITIL Processes as lean as possible. Introducing…
  • 14. 14 There may be a way to restore the peace! Eliminating duplicate administration, making the ITIL Processes as lean as possible. Introducing…
  • 15. Solving incidents should not affect team predictability (Sprint goal) • Each Sprint has reserved capacity for operational tasks • Recommended 30% - but base it on historical data • Priority 1 and 2 incidents must be solved immediately • Lower priority within bandwidth • Outside bandwidth after approval of Product Owner 15 Incident management in ING Agile ITSM means utilising bandwidth
  • 16. Strive for Today in – Today out (TiTo) Working with almost empty incident queues gives more satisfaction and a competitive mindset Each team has a dashboard showing open incidents in real time 16
  • 17. Changes: • Workarounds in Knowledge systems • No more Known Error record Problem records still require minimal registration (status, short description): • Reassignment to other teams • Management reports & dashboards • Linking incident records for insight in reoccurrence Minimise build up of Technical Debt by aiming for This Sprint In Next Sprint Out (TSINSO) Problem Management tasks managed as User Story in the Product Backlog 17
  • 18. 18 In Change management we take the biggest steps
  • 19. 19 In Change management we take the biggest steps
  • 20. We still need to manually change our CI’s. Possible improvements: • Discovered data • Automated generation of CI’s in the CD Pipeline CFG is more in the ‘new’ world! • Also includes building actual configurations of applications and the stack • And keeping those in version control 20 Configuration Management: more progress to be made
  • 21. • Customer focus (reliability) • Feedback loop (mostly incident management) • Uniform process • Discipline What can Agile/Scrum learn from ITIL? 21
  • 22. • Need for speed • Customer focus (adding value) • Limiting WiP • Feedback loop (what customers really want) 22 What can ITIL learn from Agile/Scrum?
  • 23. • no real conflict. • ITIL still has adds value ta a DevOps way of work. • It does help to make the processes as lean as possible • ITIL and Agile/Scrum/DevOps can work together • This requires understanding and acceptance of each other’s expertise 23 Wrap up
  • 24. Thank you @ingridweij @JanJoostBouwman visuals by Isabelle Hörl: www.isabellehorl.com | @IsabelleHorl we are hiring!