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If he gave the sheep over to a shepherd, the shepherd becomes responsible in his place
If he gave the sheep over to a shepherd, the shepherd becomes responsible in his place He takes the place of the animal’s owner We already learned this! ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Rather, the Mishna is discussing a case of a watchman who gave it over to a second watchman. The shepherd takes the place of the  other watchman . The second one becomes responsible. אילימא תנינא Whose place does the shepherd take?
Gemara Notes p. 28 דף נו עמוד ב
It turns out that the first watchman is  פטור   from all responsibility. Isn’t this a question on  רבא ? . רבא   said… If a  שומר   gives the object he is guarding to another  שומר , the  first  one is responsible for anything that happens to it . רבא   will say to you… The Mishna is discussing a shepherd who gave the animal over to his apprentice. Since that is normal practice, the first shepherd is  פטור . Version 1
The Mishna says specifically that  if he “gave it to a SHEPHERD, he is  פטור ” . He is  פטור   because he gave it to his apprentice, but if he gave it to anyone else, he’d be  חייב . This is a proof to … . רבא   said… If a  שומר   gives the object he is watching over to another  שומר , the  first  one is responsible for anything that happens to it איכא דאמרי Maybe the first  שומר   is  פטור   no matter who he gave it to. The Mishna picked shepherd only because that is a common case Version 2

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Gemara Notes P. 28 29

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  • 3. If he gave the sheep over to a shepherd, the shepherd becomes responsible in his place
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  • 5. Gemara Notes p. 28 דף נו עמוד ב
  • 6. It turns out that the first watchman is פטור from all responsibility. Isn’t this a question on רבא ? . רבא said… If a שומר gives the object he is guarding to another שומר , the first one is responsible for anything that happens to it . רבא will say to you… The Mishna is discussing a shepherd who gave the animal over to his apprentice. Since that is normal practice, the first shepherd is פטור . Version 1
  • 7. The Mishna says specifically that if he “gave it to a SHEPHERD, he is פטור ” . He is פטור because he gave it to his apprentice, but if he gave it to anyone else, he’d be חייב . This is a proof to … . רבא said… If a שומר gives the object he is watching over to another שומר , the first one is responsible for anything that happens to it איכא דאמרי Maybe the first שומר is פטור no matter who he gave it to. The Mishna picked shepherd only because that is a common case Version 2