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Concepts in T-fronted Classroom
           Discourse
                  Adapted from
    INTERACTIONS DURING TEACHER-FRONTED
  CLASS TIME OF ENGLISH CLASSES IN A CHINESE
                  UNIVERSITY
                       By
              Xiaoyan Xie Xie, 2008
Interaction: Monologic or
  Dialogic?


Monologic                           Dialogic
            T has pre-                           T modifies
            determined                           and expands
            script.                              on Ss‟ talk


            T and TB are                         Many voices
            dominant                             in the
            voices                               classroom

                Share examples in your transcripts
                of all four characteristics if
                possible…
The Default Instructional Pattern:
   T-Initiated Monologic IRF
                                 • Usually a
                         T:        QUESTION
                    Initiating   • T knows
                                   answer


                                   • Usually short
                          S:
                       Response
                                     & simple
                                   • Comp. check


                                 • USUALLY
                   T: Follow-      EVALUATIVE
Share your IR          up        • Closes
(evaluative) F                     exchange
sequences…
F: Evaluative or Communicative?
                      IRF:

• IRF is Everywhere (West, China, etc)
• “F” is key:
  • E For highlighting S errors (L2 & Content)
  • C For scaffolding towards independent S
    functioning
    • But Ts mostly use F to close, not open
      the floor to Ss (“Good!”, “Correct!”,
      “Perfect!”…)
Monologic IRF: Educational
value?

  Facilitates T‟s   Hard for Ss to start
control more than      or challenge
   ss‟ learning         discourse




 Changes Ss‟                                   T controls
                    From discovery to                           Ss learn how to
                                            direction, turn &
ways of knowing       transmission                                NOT think
                                           form of discourse



     Harder to                             China  and the
                    Used with „slower‟
recall/understand                           socioeconomic
                     groups, they get
                                                  gap
   info (than in      slower  gap
                                           widens/perception
   discussion)           widens
                                              of English ↓
Monologic IRF: Conclusion
                                        • lead Ss easily
                            Enables T   • Evaluate Ss‟
                               to         utterances
                                        • Maintain order



                                             • Initiative
                                             • Independent thinking
                                 Reduces
                                   Ss‟       • Development of
                                               conversational skills
                                             • Proficiency growth



                                        • Has its place…but
                            Monologic   • Should NOT be the
                              IRF         norm for language
                                          classrooms
Share your monologic IRFs
Dialogic IRF: it‟s all in the „F‟
                                     justifications




                      anything
                                                      connections
                       goes



                                       „F‟ is
                                      Context-
                                     dependent


                                                       counter-
                     clarification
                                                      arguments




                                     elaboration



Share your dialogic F-moves
Feedback on Content or
                Meaning
Walsh 2003: ECHO
•T‟s echo: unreal conversation
               reformulation
•Disturbs flow of ss utterance                         • Engages ss
•Makes excessive t-talk
   Paraphrase
     (more
     •Obstructs Ss learning elaboration
   appropriate                                         • Sustains
     model)
     opportunities                                       interaction
                                            Non-
                F-Move
               strategies                 evaluative   • Builds on ss
Use  echo/revoicing very
carefully                                 response       contributions
     Back-
   channelling
                                comment                • Signals T‟s
                                                         genuine
                  Repetition                             interest
Dialogic IRF: Why?
Dialogic                     Monologic
       Extends T  S               Closes T Ss
         Interaction                 Interaction


    Ss construct meaning          Meaning already
           with T                     known


    Higher-level cognitive          Lower-level
           L2 use                cognitive use of L2


    Ss develop proficiency        Ss don‟t learn to
     by creating with L2           create with L2
I&R: Initiate & Respond =
                        Turn-taking
How T and Ss take, hold,
and give the floor                                          • By name
                                           Call on Ss




                                                        Invite S to     • e.g. Ss raise handa
                                                           reply

                            Eliciting in
                            Chinese
                            classroom
Share the eliciting
                            s                               S
                                                                        • Very popular, but…
examples/strategies you                                 volunteers      • Only dominant Ss
                                                                          volunteer
use in your transcript.

                                                            • 2nd -most popular (40 %)
                                            T self-         • Makes eliciting irrelevant
                                           answers          • Ss learn to depend on T
                                                              •No language learning
Turn-taking in IRF – The Dangers
T-initiated IRF: What‟s the
Solution?



  T CONTROLS                         More
                  T ALLOWS
      LESS:                     opportunities
                    MORE:
  content and                    for student
                 variation to   participation
   classroom
                     IRF         in learning
   interaction
Variation to IRF: 3 types
Recitation                     Responsive                        Responsive-
                                                                 Collaborativ
discourse                       discourse                        e Discourse
                                                                                Abandons T-
             Monologic                      More relaxed IRF
                                                                                initiated IRF




                                                                                Ss control much of
             Ss listen / not
                                            Open-ended Qs                       classroom
             active
                                                                                discourse




                                                                                T asks Qs that
                                            T expands F                         have no known
                                                                                answers
ResD and RCD: more
opps. for Ss to use L2,
                                            T
longer & more complex                       accepts/integrates
                                                                                Ss self-select,
                                                                                initiate, etc.
                                            all S responses
utterances

Look for ResD and RCD                                                           Lots of S-S
                                                                                interaction
in your transcripts
Student-Initiated Interaction
 When Ss initiate
  academic and
  procedural Qs or               They
                               construct
                              knowledge
 Volunteer „„F” to T‟s
  “R” to their “I”
   Ss‟ cognition, content
    knowledge, and              S
    discourse strategies     Engaged
    are present
 Most ss must be
                              Exert power
 taught to do this.             through
                               discourse
                                 moves
Question Types: Engaging Ss
 Teachers‟ Qs can
   Elicit Ss‟ responses
   Engage & motivate Ss
   Activate Ss‟ schema
   Impact students‟ learning variously
   Sometimes require modification
   Allow ss to co-construct knowledge (converse) with
   T
Question types
                        Open                      Closed

                        Longer answer             Very brief answer
Display


commonly known
answer

Referential


personal answer




     Share the T questions in your transcript. Which
     type(s) dominate?
Question Types: Global Generalized
Classroom Research Findings
                            How common are
                             display questions in
                             daily life?
     Displa
       y
                            How much meaning
                             construction practice
                             do students get with
                             display questions?
              Referential


                            How common are
                             display questions in
                             your transcripts?
Q Modification and wait-time
MIC Techniques:                     Rapid                    Wait-time
                                    Q/no                        3
 Repeat                           Wait-time
                                               Short
                                                             seconds
                                                                         Increased
                                                                         participation

 Rephrase/Chunk
 Visuals (gestures,                           Incomplete                Ss initiate


  objects, pictures)                                                     More complex
                                               thoughtless               language and
 Examples & Cues                                                        logic



                                                                         Quiet Ss more
      Share examples of wait-time or no                                  active

      wait-time after your questions:
                                                                         Increased
      what kind of responses do you                                      quality and
                                                                         quantity of s
      see?                                                               L2 use
Questioning strategy
 Must consider   Contextual solution
  student‟s
   Attitude
   Motivation                Hong Kong – Confucian
                              culture
 T‟s intent
                  Expand
                   the F-
                  move :




                              “showing      Same restricted
                              off” is not
                               valued       responses: Why?

                  e.g., ask   Lose face     Referential Qs = 1-   Display Qs = 1- or
                  follow-up    – longer      or 2-word reply         2-word reply
                  questions   utterances
                              risk errors
Research:
 THE BEST proficiency developing
 Qs…
                                          … are tools for
                                           constructing
                      … are scaffolding
                                          meaning with
                                             others –
                                                                      In this
                                                               context, doing tasks
                        They help Ss
                      achieve otherwise
                        unachievable      Within classrooms
                         utterances.


                                                                   In courses


Share any scaffolding or
                                            For shared goals
meaning-construction                        (known reasons)
Qs in your transcripts.
What‟s the percentage?
“Non-Question Moves”
  Statements: suggesting, guessing


  Pausing, listening


  Pictures/visuals/realia


  Wondering aloud (conversational)
  – ss want to help T
The Importance of Context
                                                                • Evaluate Ss‟ recall
                                             E.g., Intent of
                                               Display Q
                                                                • Control ss interpetation

                Classroom
                 context                                        • Low quality response
                                              Korean Ss
                                             perceive „test‟
                                                                • Hamper ss‟ thinking


                Effectiveness
                    of T‟s
                                                                 • T shows sincerity &
                 questioning                                       personal interest in Ss‟
                                              E.g., Intent of
                                                Display Q          responses
  Ss‟ interp.
   of T‟s                       T‟s intent
    intent
                                                                 • Higher cognitive
                                                                   processing
Share evidence of “showing                     Korean Ss
                                               perceive „T       • More complex response
personal interest” in ss                         cares‟

responses in your transcripts. Is
it easy for ss to perceive your
interest?
Feedback on L2 Accuracy

                  The                         The
                                                    Some Asian uni
                  good   Can prevent L1
                                              bad   ss don‟t want any
                                                    more EC
                         rule transfer              • Want communicative
                                                      practice



                         Allows learners to
                         modify or confirm          Very few effective
                         interlanguage              techniques
                         rules


                         Helps Ss notice
Find examples of         the gap between
                         TL and their
corrective               utterance
feedback
(linguistic) in your
transcript.
EC: Accuracy - Some results
                        • T gives correct version
      Explicit            • Ss can’t reformulate, self-correct, or negotiate form


                        • Most common – eventually ss may notice/produce correct form
      Recasts           • Other ss may also benefit from T‟s recast to one S



     Elicitation        • Ss self- or peer- correct -- negotiate form



   Metalinguistic       • T: “You need past tense” S: negotiate form



Clarification request   • negotiate form



     Repetition
E.C. Sociocultural Perspective

   EC within S‟s            Should be
 knowledge frame            negotiated           Ss must self- or
  (ZPD) is most         (led/scaffolded by        peer- correct
     effective          T, but done by S)



Correct „errors‟, not                                  (self-
    „attempts‟.                                reliance, autonomy)
                         Share evidence of
                         leading Ss to self-
                         or peer- correct in
                         your transcripts.
The Quality of Classroom Life
If the goal is proficiency development, classroom interaction is only
useful if it helps Ss improve proficiency.

Classroom discourse must be optimized to enhance the quality of
classroom life of a particular T and Ss.

In other words, all CI and CD depend on a unique context. So the
right way to teach is to become adept at planning CI and CD
practices, and then making crucial decisions about changes in
practices on the fly.
Classroom Life is
Situated Discourse
         Institutional
       goals/Constraints




          Participant
       goals/constraints




         TASK of the
          exchange




       Relative positions
        of participants
Affective Dimension

 Number     • S involvement
and kind    • Mutual respect
            • Individually personalized
  of Ss‟      questions
discourse     • Ss feel like individuals
            • Affirmation of ss responses (real
 depend       listening/consideration)
  on an       • Use ss response in next
                 teaching moments
 ethos of
Mother Tongue Use



                              As much as
As little as necessary
                             necessary (Ss
    (when there is
                            should not feel
 another way, use it)
                         discouraged in class)
T Identity  Discourse style
                                                    T is sole legitimate
                                                    knowledge provider

                            A T who knowingly
                            creates monologic
                           classroom discourse
                                 believes          Ss cannot self-acquire
                                                        knowledge
     A T‟s beliefs about
      teaching dictate
     his/her classroom
       discourse style
                                                   Meaning is interactively
                                                       constructed
                              A T who knowingly
                               creates dialogic
Based on your                classroom discourse
                                   believes
transcripts, where is                              Authority for learning is
your classroom                                      shared (distributed)

discourse style along
the monologic  
Dialogic continuum?
T-identity in Asian (Chinese) contexts
             Transmission mode (T talks,
                     ss listen)

            Emphasize language points -
                       test


                  No actual L2 use

             Teach as they were taught
                 (little professional
                    development)

                L2 use is unimportant


              L2 linguistic knowledge is
                    important - test
S- Identity in Asian (Chinese)
      contexts
                                                          • Traditional values:
                •   Reticent                                • Face
                                                            • collective > individual (“1
                •   Reluctant                                 should not bother
                •   Unvolunteering                            others”)
                                                            • modesty (no showing
                •   Uninitiating                              off/going first)
                •   Unanswering                             • respect of elders/seniors
                                                              (no
Characteristics •   Brief replying                            challenge/address, eye
                •   Respect T and
                                         Causes               contact)
                                                          • Learned school practice
                    textbook                              • T‟s Discourse style
                                                            • Limiting range of low-
                                                              level Qs
                                                            • Minimal wait-time



                         Share moments where ss‟ interaction is unimpressive.
                         What do you think are the causes? How can you fix
                         these moments?

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Concepts in t fronted classroom discourse

  • 1. Concepts in T-fronted Classroom Discourse Adapted from INTERACTIONS DURING TEACHER-FRONTED CLASS TIME OF ENGLISH CLASSES IN A CHINESE UNIVERSITY By Xiaoyan Xie Xie, 2008
  • 2. Interaction: Monologic or Dialogic? Monologic Dialogic T has pre- T modifies determined and expands script. on Ss‟ talk T and TB are Many voices dominant in the voices classroom Share examples in your transcripts of all four characteristics if possible…
  • 3. The Default Instructional Pattern: T-Initiated Monologic IRF • Usually a T: QUESTION Initiating • T knows answer • Usually short S: Response & simple • Comp. check • USUALLY T: Follow- EVALUATIVE Share your IR up • Closes (evaluative) F exchange sequences…
  • 4. F: Evaluative or Communicative? IRF: • IRF is Everywhere (West, China, etc) • “F” is key: • E For highlighting S errors (L2 & Content) • C For scaffolding towards independent S functioning • But Ts mostly use F to close, not open the floor to Ss (“Good!”, “Correct!”, “Perfect!”…)
  • 5. Monologic IRF: Educational value? Facilitates T‟s Hard for Ss to start control more than or challenge ss‟ learning discourse Changes Ss‟ T controls From discovery to Ss learn how to direction, turn & ways of knowing transmission NOT think form of discourse Harder to China  and the Used with „slower‟ recall/understand socioeconomic groups, they get gap info (than in slower  gap widens/perception discussion) widens of English ↓
  • 6. Monologic IRF: Conclusion • lead Ss easily Enables T • Evaluate Ss‟ to utterances • Maintain order • Initiative • Independent thinking Reduces Ss‟ • Development of conversational skills • Proficiency growth • Has its place…but Monologic • Should NOT be the IRF norm for language classrooms Share your monologic IRFs
  • 7. Dialogic IRF: it‟s all in the „F‟ justifications anything connections goes „F‟ is Context- dependent counter- clarification arguments elaboration Share your dialogic F-moves
  • 8. Feedback on Content or Meaning Walsh 2003: ECHO •T‟s echo: unreal conversation reformulation •Disturbs flow of ss utterance • Engages ss •Makes excessive t-talk Paraphrase (more •Obstructs Ss learning elaboration appropriate • Sustains model) opportunities interaction Non- F-Move strategies evaluative • Builds on ss Use echo/revoicing very carefully response contributions Back- channelling comment • Signals T‟s genuine Repetition interest
  • 9. Dialogic IRF: Why? Dialogic Monologic Extends T  S Closes T Ss Interaction Interaction Ss construct meaning Meaning already with T known Higher-level cognitive Lower-level L2 use cognitive use of L2 Ss develop proficiency Ss don‟t learn to by creating with L2 create with L2
  • 10. I&R: Initiate & Respond = Turn-taking How T and Ss take, hold, and give the floor • By name Call on Ss Invite S to • e.g. Ss raise handa reply Eliciting in Chinese classroom Share the eliciting s S • Very popular, but… examples/strategies you volunteers • Only dominant Ss volunteer use in your transcript. • 2nd -most popular (40 %) T self- • Makes eliciting irrelevant answers • Ss learn to depend on T •No language learning
  • 11. Turn-taking in IRF – The Dangers
  • 12. T-initiated IRF: What‟s the Solution? T CONTROLS More T ALLOWS LESS: opportunities MORE: content and for student variation to participation classroom IRF in learning interaction
  • 13. Variation to IRF: 3 types Recitation Responsive Responsive- Collaborativ discourse discourse e Discourse Abandons T- Monologic More relaxed IRF initiated IRF Ss control much of Ss listen / not Open-ended Qs classroom active discourse T asks Qs that T expands F have no known answers ResD and RCD: more opps. for Ss to use L2, T longer & more complex accepts/integrates Ss self-select, initiate, etc. all S responses utterances Look for ResD and RCD Lots of S-S interaction in your transcripts
  • 14. Student-Initiated Interaction  When Ss initiate academic and procedural Qs or They construct knowledge  Volunteer „„F” to T‟s “R” to their “I”  Ss‟ cognition, content knowledge, and S discourse strategies Engaged are present  Most ss must be Exert power taught to do this. through discourse moves
  • 15. Question Types: Engaging Ss  Teachers‟ Qs can  Elicit Ss‟ responses  Engage & motivate Ss  Activate Ss‟ schema  Impact students‟ learning variously  Sometimes require modification  Allow ss to co-construct knowledge (converse) with T
  • 16. Question types Open Closed Longer answer Very brief answer Display commonly known answer Referential personal answer Share the T questions in your transcript. Which type(s) dominate?
  • 17. Question Types: Global Generalized Classroom Research Findings How common are display questions in daily life? Displa y How much meaning construction practice do students get with display questions? Referential How common are display questions in your transcripts?
  • 18. Q Modification and wait-time MIC Techniques: Rapid Wait-time Q/no 3  Repeat Wait-time Short seconds Increased participation  Rephrase/Chunk  Visuals (gestures, Incomplete Ss initiate objects, pictures) More complex thoughtless language and  Examples & Cues logic Quiet Ss more Share examples of wait-time or no active wait-time after your questions: Increased what kind of responses do you quality and quantity of s see? L2 use
  • 19. Questioning strategy  Must consider Contextual solution student‟s  Attitude  Motivation Hong Kong – Confucian culture  T‟s intent Expand the F- move : “showing Same restricted off” is not valued responses: Why? e.g., ask Lose face Referential Qs = 1- Display Qs = 1- or follow-up – longer or 2-word reply 2-word reply questions utterances risk errors
  • 20. Research: THE BEST proficiency developing Qs… … are tools for constructing … are scaffolding meaning with others – In this context, doing tasks They help Ss achieve otherwise unachievable Within classrooms utterances. In courses Share any scaffolding or For shared goals meaning-construction (known reasons) Qs in your transcripts. What‟s the percentage?
  • 21. “Non-Question Moves” Statements: suggesting, guessing Pausing, listening Pictures/visuals/realia Wondering aloud (conversational) – ss want to help T
  • 22. The Importance of Context • Evaluate Ss‟ recall E.g., Intent of Display Q • Control ss interpetation Classroom context • Low quality response Korean Ss perceive „test‟ • Hamper ss‟ thinking Effectiveness of T‟s • T shows sincerity & questioning personal interest in Ss‟ E.g., Intent of Display Q responses Ss‟ interp. of T‟s T‟s intent intent • Higher cognitive processing Share evidence of “showing Korean Ss perceive „T • More complex response personal interest” in ss cares‟ responses in your transcripts. Is it easy for ss to perceive your interest?
  • 23. Feedback on L2 Accuracy The The Some Asian uni good Can prevent L1 bad ss don‟t want any more EC rule transfer • Want communicative practice Allows learners to modify or confirm Very few effective interlanguage techniques rules Helps Ss notice Find examples of the gap between TL and their corrective utterance feedback (linguistic) in your transcript.
  • 24. EC: Accuracy - Some results • T gives correct version Explicit • Ss can’t reformulate, self-correct, or negotiate form • Most common – eventually ss may notice/produce correct form Recasts • Other ss may also benefit from T‟s recast to one S Elicitation • Ss self- or peer- correct -- negotiate form Metalinguistic • T: “You need past tense” S: negotiate form Clarification request • negotiate form Repetition
  • 25. E.C. Sociocultural Perspective EC within S‟s Should be knowledge frame negotiated Ss must self- or (ZPD) is most (led/scaffolded by peer- correct effective T, but done by S) Correct „errors‟, not (self- „attempts‟. reliance, autonomy) Share evidence of leading Ss to self- or peer- correct in your transcripts.
  • 26. The Quality of Classroom Life If the goal is proficiency development, classroom interaction is only useful if it helps Ss improve proficiency. Classroom discourse must be optimized to enhance the quality of classroom life of a particular T and Ss. In other words, all CI and CD depend on a unique context. So the right way to teach is to become adept at planning CI and CD practices, and then making crucial decisions about changes in practices on the fly.
  • 27. Classroom Life is Situated Discourse Institutional goals/Constraints Participant goals/constraints TASK of the exchange Relative positions of participants
  • 28. Affective Dimension Number • S involvement and kind • Mutual respect • Individually personalized of Ss‟ questions discourse • Ss feel like individuals • Affirmation of ss responses (real depend listening/consideration) on an • Use ss response in next teaching moments ethos of
  • 29. Mother Tongue Use As much as As little as necessary necessary (Ss (when there is should not feel another way, use it) discouraged in class)
  • 30. T Identity  Discourse style T is sole legitimate knowledge provider A T who knowingly creates monologic classroom discourse believes Ss cannot self-acquire knowledge A T‟s beliefs about teaching dictate his/her classroom discourse style Meaning is interactively constructed A T who knowingly creates dialogic Based on your classroom discourse believes transcripts, where is Authority for learning is your classroom shared (distributed) discourse style along the monologic   Dialogic continuum?
  • 31. T-identity in Asian (Chinese) contexts Transmission mode (T talks, ss listen) Emphasize language points - test No actual L2 use Teach as they were taught (little professional development) L2 use is unimportant L2 linguistic knowledge is important - test
  • 32. S- Identity in Asian (Chinese) contexts • Traditional values: • Reticent • Face • collective > individual (“1 • Reluctant should not bother • Unvolunteering others”) • modesty (no showing • Uninitiating off/going first) • Unanswering • respect of elders/seniors (no Characteristics • Brief replying challenge/address, eye • Respect T and Causes contact) • Learned school practice textbook • T‟s Discourse style • Limiting range of low- level Qs • Minimal wait-time Share moments where ss‟ interaction is unimpressive. What do you think are the causes? How can you fix these moments?