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Which is more important?
The “stars” or the timeliness ranking?
   In this session we will look at both the
    Morningstar and Value Line databases.

   We will compare the findings of one data
    base with the other.
.
   On the surface, the two databases look a
    lot alike. Each has sections for stocks,
    mutual funds, and ETF’s.
   Each has a ranking system. Value line
    uses a one through five system with one
    being the best and five the worst.
    Morningstar uses a star ranking that has
    five the best to one the worst to help users
    choose stocks.
   The library’s subscriptions in both
    services compare well to each other in
    most areas of coverage. However, the
    Morningstar subscription also coverers
    ETS, while our Value line subscription
    does not.
   The Value Line service has several different
    categories of rankings on the one to five scale.
    These are:

   1. Highest approximately 100 stocks
   2. Above Average approximately 300 stocks
   3. Average approximately 900 stocks
   4. Below Average approximately 300 stocks
   5. Lowest approximately 100 stocks
   Morningstar on the other hand uses a “star” system.

   The “stars” correspond to the expected rate of return for
    the investor in the financial instrument.
   5 star, a rate of return greater than cost of the stock.
   4 star, above average rate of return
   3 star average return
   2 star below average return
   1 star, the stock is expected to loose money

   Note that the rating system is the reverse of that used by
    Value Line, i.e. one is highest and five lowest
   We will rank the portfolios that each has on their sites
    by the ranking that the other uses.

   Morningstar by Value Line’s timeliness rank.

   Value Line by Morningstar’s “star” ranking system.

   The results may surprise you!
This portfolio is for those who are termed “aggressive” investors. It is one
that Value Line thinks will have a good chance to have substantial
appreciation over the next12 months. There is risk involved in this
portfolio as well as any of the others.

Note that this portfolio like all portfolios is subject to change due to
market conditions and the financial stability of each company. This
portfolio was current as of the date of inception, which was February
13, 2012.
We will follow these portfolios over time to see which, if any actually
make a profit.
Also note that in all likely hood, our results would be better if we daily
monitored these stocks. Or if we took protective measures like stop losses
which are written at a certain percentage like 3% up to say 6% of the
amount invested. We should always try and make sure we have some
way to get our funds out of the market if the trade turns against us.
Four Stars   Three Stars   Two Stars   0 Stars
AAPL         AAP           DTV         CSTR
NSC          BLL           FL          DAN
TEVA         MIICF         GCO         HELE
             PVH           KEX         KMT
             TKR           ODFL        MAT
                                       TGI

%Ret         % Ret         %Ret        %Ret
17.33        6.85          7.70        6.07
For the moderate investor, includes stocks that
will provide above-average income and whose
prices have the potential to increase.
Typically, more conservative investors will be
most comfortable with this portfolio.
List of stocks from this portfolio. These are intended for income
and potential price appreciation.
Four Stars       Three Stars         Two Stars        One Star
ABT              KO                   LMT               MOLX
CVX               CL                  WMT
COP               DD
RSG              EMR
SNY               HON
SNA               INTC
UPN              KFT
                 MCD
                 UPS
                 VZ
Four Stars   Three Stars   Two Stars   One Star
ABT           KO            LMT         MOLX
CVX           CL            WMT
COP           DD
RSG           EMR
SNY           HON
SNA           INTC
UPN           KFT
             MCD
             UPS
              VZ
%Return      % Return      %Return      %Return
 2.24         2.29          1.28         3.41
Emphasizes stocks with worthwhile
appreciation potential. It is most
appropriate for investors focused on
long-term capital gains.
Stocks in this list with Morningstar ranking.
Five Stars       Four Stars       Three Stars   Two Stars    0 Stars
HAL               GES             AFL           HOG         CBOU
                JNJ               CVS           HRL          DY
                MOS               DIS                        ESL
                NOV              MGA
                PEP               XLNX
                X                CELG
                UNH
                GOOG
Five Stars      Four Stars   Three Stars   Two Stars     0 Stars
HAL            GES            AFL           HOG          CBOU
               JNJ            CVS           HRL          DY
               MOS            DIS                        ESL
               NOV            MGA
               PEP            XLNX
               X              CELG
              UNH
              GOOG
% ret          %ret          %ret          %ret        %ret
-10.48       +4.53           +5.56         +5.17       +9.53
Focuses on stocks with above-average
dividend yields. Investors with an interest
in current income are likely to find interest
here.
Here are the stocks in this portfolio with the Morningstar Star
rank.
Four Stars        Three Stars          Two Stars     0 Stars
ABT               LNT                  BT           ALRP
RDS.A              DD                   BTI          LG
                  HNZ                  ED           TA.TO
                  IP                   OGE          WPC
                  MCD                  RAI
                  NOC                  SO
                  POR
                  SLE
Four Stars   Three Stars   Two Stars   0 Stars
ABT          LNT             BT        ARLP
RDS.A        DD              BTI       LG
             HNZ             ED        WPC
             IP              OGE
             MCD             RAI
             NOC             SO
             POR
             SLE
%Ret         %Ret            %Ret        %Ret
3.13         1.15            2.33       -5.86
Stars are useful, up to a point.

The Value Line timeliness may be a better
indicator of future stock growth potential.
Note that it is only useful for a usually limited
period of time. The user will need to set stops and
check at least weekly to determine if your
investment goals for the stock have been met.

We will still need to set “stops” so no matter what
the market does we will still be able to preserve
our capital.
Ranked One   Ranked Two    Ranked Three    Ranked Four    Ranked Five Unranked
DFS 3star    ZMH 4star     CMP 4 star       Payx 4 star   CX 4 star
             CSCO 4 star   STRA 3 star      JOE 5 star
             MSFT 4 star    EBAY 4star      KMX 3 star
             AMGN 3 star   ADSK 3 star
                            CME 3 star
                            NOV 4 star
                             ISCA 3 star
                             ORCL 5 star
                             WU 5 star
                             IGT 4 stars
Rate of Return

Ranked 1    Ranked 2       Ranked 3      Ranked 4    Ranked 5
DFS 3star   ZMH 4star      CMP 4 star    PAYX 4 star CX 4 star
             CSCO 4 star    STRA 3 star  JOE 5 star
             MSFT 4 star   EBAY 4star    KMX 3 star
            AMGN 3 star    ADSK 3 star
                            CME 3 star
                            NOV 4 star
                             ISCA 3 star
                             ORCL 5 star
                             WU 5 star
                             IGT 4 stars
 One             Two           Three       Four        Five

+15.17%          +2.46%        -3%          +11.00      -8.64%
   We have ranked Value Line by
    Morningstar. We have also looked at the
    Value Line portfolios listed by the “stars”
    system.
   It would appear that the factor of
    timeliness, at least in the short run is a
    reasonably good indicator for the
    potential for stock growth.

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Value line portfolio one

  • 1. Which is more important? The “stars” or the timeliness ranking?
  • 2. In this session we will look at both the Morningstar and Value Line databases.  We will compare the findings of one data base with the other. .
  • 3. On the surface, the two databases look a lot alike. Each has sections for stocks, mutual funds, and ETF’s.  Each has a ranking system. Value line uses a one through five system with one being the best and five the worst. Morningstar uses a star ranking that has five the best to one the worst to help users choose stocks.
  • 4. The library’s subscriptions in both services compare well to each other in most areas of coverage. However, the Morningstar subscription also coverers ETS, while our Value line subscription does not.
  • 5. The Value Line service has several different categories of rankings on the one to five scale. These are:  1. Highest approximately 100 stocks  2. Above Average approximately 300 stocks  3. Average approximately 900 stocks  4. Below Average approximately 300 stocks  5. Lowest approximately 100 stocks
  • 6. Morningstar on the other hand uses a “star” system.  The “stars” correspond to the expected rate of return for the investor in the financial instrument.  5 star, a rate of return greater than cost of the stock.  4 star, above average rate of return  3 star average return  2 star below average return  1 star, the stock is expected to loose money  Note that the rating system is the reverse of that used by Value Line, i.e. one is highest and five lowest
  • 7. We will rank the portfolios that each has on their sites by the ranking that the other uses.  Morningstar by Value Line’s timeliness rank.  Value Line by Morningstar’s “star” ranking system.  The results may surprise you!
  • 8. This portfolio is for those who are termed “aggressive” investors. It is one that Value Line thinks will have a good chance to have substantial appreciation over the next12 months. There is risk involved in this portfolio as well as any of the others. Note that this portfolio like all portfolios is subject to change due to market conditions and the financial stability of each company. This portfolio was current as of the date of inception, which was February 13, 2012. We will follow these portfolios over time to see which, if any actually make a profit. Also note that in all likely hood, our results would be better if we daily monitored these stocks. Or if we took protective measures like stop losses which are written at a certain percentage like 3% up to say 6% of the amount invested. We should always try and make sure we have some way to get our funds out of the market if the trade turns against us.
  • 9. Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars 0 Stars AAPL AAP DTV CSTR NSC BLL FL DAN TEVA MIICF GCO HELE PVH KEX KMT TKR ODFL MAT TGI %Ret % Ret %Ret %Ret 17.33 6.85 7.70 6.07
  • 10. For the moderate investor, includes stocks that will provide above-average income and whose prices have the potential to increase. Typically, more conservative investors will be most comfortable with this portfolio.
  • 11. List of stocks from this portfolio. These are intended for income and potential price appreciation. Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars One Star ABT KO LMT MOLX CVX CL WMT COP DD RSG EMR SNY HON SNA INTC UPN KFT MCD UPS VZ
  • 12. Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars One Star ABT KO LMT MOLX CVX CL WMT COP DD RSG EMR SNY HON SNA INTC UPN KFT MCD UPS VZ %Return % Return %Return %Return 2.24 2.29 1.28 3.41
  • 13. Emphasizes stocks with worthwhile appreciation potential. It is most appropriate for investors focused on long-term capital gains.
  • 14. Stocks in this list with Morningstar ranking. Five Stars Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars 0 Stars HAL GES AFL HOG CBOU JNJ CVS HRL DY MOS DIS ESL NOV MGA PEP XLNX X CELG UNH GOOG
  • 15. Five Stars Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars 0 Stars HAL GES AFL HOG CBOU JNJ CVS HRL DY MOS DIS ESL NOV MGA PEP XLNX X CELG UNH GOOG % ret %ret %ret %ret %ret -10.48 +4.53 +5.56 +5.17 +9.53
  • 16. Focuses on stocks with above-average dividend yields. Investors with an interest in current income are likely to find interest here.
  • 17. Here are the stocks in this portfolio with the Morningstar Star rank. Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars 0 Stars ABT LNT BT ALRP RDS.A DD BTI LG HNZ ED TA.TO IP OGE WPC MCD RAI NOC SO POR SLE
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  • 19. Four Stars Three Stars Two Stars 0 Stars ABT LNT BT ARLP RDS.A DD BTI LG HNZ ED WPC IP OGE MCD RAI NOC SO POR SLE %Ret %Ret %Ret %Ret 3.13 1.15 2.33 -5.86
  • 20. Stars are useful, up to a point. The Value Line timeliness may be a better indicator of future stock growth potential. Note that it is only useful for a usually limited period of time. The user will need to set stops and check at least weekly to determine if your investment goals for the stock have been met. We will still need to set “stops” so no matter what the market does we will still be able to preserve our capital.
  • 21. Ranked One Ranked Two Ranked Three Ranked Four Ranked Five Unranked DFS 3star ZMH 4star CMP 4 star Payx 4 star CX 4 star CSCO 4 star STRA 3 star JOE 5 star MSFT 4 star EBAY 4star KMX 3 star AMGN 3 star ADSK 3 star CME 3 star NOV 4 star ISCA 3 star ORCL 5 star WU 5 star IGT 4 stars
  • 22. Rate of Return Ranked 1 Ranked 2 Ranked 3 Ranked 4 Ranked 5 DFS 3star ZMH 4star CMP 4 star PAYX 4 star CX 4 star CSCO 4 star STRA 3 star JOE 5 star MSFT 4 star EBAY 4star KMX 3 star AMGN 3 star ADSK 3 star CME 3 star NOV 4 star ISCA 3 star ORCL 5 star WU 5 star IGT 4 stars One Two Three Four Five +15.17% +2.46% -3% +11.00 -8.64%
  • 23. We have ranked Value Line by Morningstar. We have also looked at the Value Line portfolios listed by the “stars” system.  It would appear that the factor of timeliness, at least in the short run is a reasonably good indicator for the potential for stock growth.