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My Perspectives on
Growth
Dave Kellogg
EIR, Balderton Capital
Principal, Dave Kellogg Consulting
Author, Kellblog
October 2021
Your Growth Guide Today is Dave
10+ Years a CMO
● Versant ($1-15M)
● Business Objects
($30M-1B)
● Alation (gig)
10+ Years a CEO
● MarkLogic ($0-80M)
● Host Analytics ($8-50M)
2
10+ Years a Director
● Alation, Scoro, SMA
● Past: Aster, Granular,
Nuxeo, Profisee
10+ Years a Blogger And a Brand-New EIR
Obligatory Preface
“Revenue Cures
All Known Illnesses.”
3
Did Someone
Say Growth?
-
200
400
600
800
1,000
1,200
Company 1 Company 2 Company 3
Revenue by Year for my First 19 Working Years
Y1 Y2 Y3 Y4 Y5 Y6 Y7 Y8 Y9
Great success
and great failure,
simultaneously
Treetop-
scraping
turnaround
Growth smoothed via CAGRS
4
My Reaction at
#3?
• I watched numerous (largely
younger) friends leave an
amazing situation because of
relatively minor issues
• My prior two, more difficult, runs
helped me recognize a wave that
you wanted to ride to the beach
5
Five Challenges That Accompany Growth
1. Next-levelitis: an obsessive focus on taking everything to the next level
2. “FBI guys” and cultural divides between new and existing people
3. Conflation of regional culture and opinion
4. Missing an opportunity that you want
5. Getting things wrong to get other things right
6
Next-Levelitis
• Disease: an obsessive focus on scaling everything to the next level
• Endemic: in venture-backed startups
• Cause: a popular cliché -- “the people who brought you here aren’t
the ones who are going to get you to the next level.”
• Cure: revision → “the people who brought you here aren’t the ones
who are going to get you to the next level.”
systems, and processes necessarily
7
See: https://kellblog.com/2020/11/07/unlearning-as-you-scale-presentation-from-a-vc-portfolio-ceo-summit/
Scaling for the Next Level is
a Goldilocks Problem Too little
• You hit the scaling wall
Too much
• We can’t close the
books because we hired
the CFO we need three
years from now
8
Change Is Good. You Go First.
A certain amount of change resistance is both normal and good 9
Handling Next-Levelitis
• Avoid change for change’s sake
• Avoid operational narcissism
• Think: “But I loved that spreadsheet.”
• Avoid false causality
• We used that spreadsheet. We were
successful. Ergo, we were successful because
of that spreadsheet.
• Consider group exercise: we were successful
( ) because of, ( ) in spite of, or ( ) completely
independent of that system or process
10
Skate To The
(Mid-Term)
Puck
Beware over-application: skate to where it’s going next minute, not next match
11
FBI Guys
They will show up in
your life at some point
12
See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY_nkgJG3oE
Sometimes It
Doesn’t End Well
For Them
13
See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJ3zC25oBM
“We’re gonna need some more FBI guys, I guess.”
14
Avoiding “FBI Guy” Problems
New People
• Foster bidirectional respect
• Encourage respect
• Use mission and values for
cultural compatibility
• Screen out lather / rinse / repeat
executives
• Focus on the future
Old People
• Foster bidirectional respect
• Encourage humility
• Reinforce success of mission
accomplished via the values
• Screen out those who can’t
disagree and commit*
• Focus on the future
* Effectively a no-subterfuge rule, see: https://kellblog.com/tag/disagree-and-commit/
15
Conflating Culture and Opinion, I
UK Leadership
“Senior UK buyers want to buy
from peers.
The right sales model has senior
salesreps, high quotas, and a lot of
support resources.”
France Leadership
“Senior French buyers want to buy
from the next generation.
The right sales model has junior
salesreps, low quotas, and few
support resources.”
Reality: both models produced similar gross margin and growth profiles
16
Conflating Culture and Opinion, II
USA Leadership
“We need to strongly position as
#1 because IT B2B buyers want to
buy from a leader.”
France Leadership
“In France, we love an underdog,
cannot possibility position as #1 in
the market.”
Reality: France may root for underdogs, but French B2B buyers still value safety
17
Conflating Culture and Opinion, III
USA Leadership
“We need to put marketing
programs that we design in a box
and our European teammates will
execute them. It’s all about scale
economies and buyers aren’t that
different.”
German Leadership
“We have 3.0x relative market
share in France, 1.5x relative
market share in the USA and 0.1x
relative market share in Germany.
Should our marketing strategy
really be the same?”
Reality: Germany’s right and it’s about situation, not culture
18
Disentangling Culture and Opinion
• Awareness of the tendency
• Critical thinking
• Regional or opinion difference? Could
two Brits have the same argument?
• If regional difference, driven by situation
or culture?
• Turn opinion into data
• Hypothesis test using market research
• Lose any religious attitudes
• It’s not about “right” or “wrong”
• View everything as an experiment
• I am only a Petri dish*
Think: “I am only an egg” in Stranger in a Strange Land
19
Missing an Opportunity That You Want
• One day, you’re likely to miss out on an
opportunity that you want
• Maybe someone else gets it
• Maybe nobody gets it (e.g., reorg)
• Worse yet, maybe it’s compounded
• Ignominy: you have to report to the
person who did get the job
• Hypersensitivity: hard work makes
for thin skin
20
Tips on Handling Missed Opportunities
Individual
• Accept the change
• Patience is the best strategy
• If you don’t like something, wait
• Scenario analysis -- if you think the
boss is a bad choice then:
• You are right and others will figure it out
• You are wrong and will learn something
• Just had a friend leave a big job 2
months before major reorg
Organization
• Value individuals
• Show it through up-front
consideration, where possible
• Show it through redeployment
• Even if into sometimes odd jobs
• Salesforce is exemplary at this
21
The Biggest Lesson I Learned in Business
22
Me: “I’m so excited, I’m finally going to work at the perfect company!”
Success in Business is About
Getting What Matters Right • Not about getting everything
right
• Opportunity cost of
unneeded perfection
• No, we can’t get shit wrong
• Professionalism bar
• There’s a reason for GSD
• Begs the critical strategic
question:
• What matters?
23
Summary:
Managing The Five
Challenges That
Accompany Growth
1. Next-level scaling: take a pragmatic,
balanced view
2. FBI guys: screen them out, culture
them in, mutual respect
3. Conflation of culture and opinion:
awareness, critical thinking, Petri dishes
4. Not getting the opportunity you want:
patience, learning
5. Getting things wrong to get other things
right: perspective
24
“Sometimes you just have to ride the wave you’re given”
25

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Perspectives on Growth

  • 1. My Perspectives on Growth Dave Kellogg EIR, Balderton Capital Principal, Dave Kellogg Consulting Author, Kellblog October 2021
  • 2. Your Growth Guide Today is Dave 10+ Years a CMO ● Versant ($1-15M) ● Business Objects ($30M-1B) ● Alation (gig) 10+ Years a CEO ● MarkLogic ($0-80M) ● Host Analytics ($8-50M) 2 10+ Years a Director ● Alation, Scoro, SMA ● Past: Aster, Granular, Nuxeo, Profisee 10+ Years a Blogger And a Brand-New EIR
  • 4. Did Someone Say Growth? - 200 400 600 800 1,000 1,200 Company 1 Company 2 Company 3 Revenue by Year for my First 19 Working Years Y1 Y2 Y3 Y4 Y5 Y6 Y7 Y8 Y9 Great success and great failure, simultaneously Treetop- scraping turnaround Growth smoothed via CAGRS 4
  • 5. My Reaction at #3? • I watched numerous (largely younger) friends leave an amazing situation because of relatively minor issues • My prior two, more difficult, runs helped me recognize a wave that you wanted to ride to the beach 5
  • 6. Five Challenges That Accompany Growth 1. Next-levelitis: an obsessive focus on taking everything to the next level 2. “FBI guys” and cultural divides between new and existing people 3. Conflation of regional culture and opinion 4. Missing an opportunity that you want 5. Getting things wrong to get other things right 6
  • 7. Next-Levelitis • Disease: an obsessive focus on scaling everything to the next level • Endemic: in venture-backed startups • Cause: a popular cliché -- “the people who brought you here aren’t the ones who are going to get you to the next level.” • Cure: revision → “the people who brought you here aren’t the ones who are going to get you to the next level.” systems, and processes necessarily 7 See: https://kellblog.com/2020/11/07/unlearning-as-you-scale-presentation-from-a-vc-portfolio-ceo-summit/
  • 8. Scaling for the Next Level is a Goldilocks Problem Too little • You hit the scaling wall Too much • We can’t close the books because we hired the CFO we need three years from now 8
  • 9. Change Is Good. You Go First. A certain amount of change resistance is both normal and good 9
  • 10. Handling Next-Levelitis • Avoid change for change’s sake • Avoid operational narcissism • Think: “But I loved that spreadsheet.” • Avoid false causality • We used that spreadsheet. We were successful. Ergo, we were successful because of that spreadsheet. • Consider group exercise: we were successful ( ) because of, ( ) in spite of, or ( ) completely independent of that system or process 10
  • 11. Skate To The (Mid-Term) Puck Beware over-application: skate to where it’s going next minute, not next match 11
  • 12. FBI Guys They will show up in your life at some point 12 See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY_nkgJG3oE
  • 13. Sometimes It Doesn’t End Well For Them 13 See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJ3zC25oBM
  • 14. “We’re gonna need some more FBI guys, I guess.” 14
  • 15. Avoiding “FBI Guy” Problems New People • Foster bidirectional respect • Encourage respect • Use mission and values for cultural compatibility • Screen out lather / rinse / repeat executives • Focus on the future Old People • Foster bidirectional respect • Encourage humility • Reinforce success of mission accomplished via the values • Screen out those who can’t disagree and commit* • Focus on the future * Effectively a no-subterfuge rule, see: https://kellblog.com/tag/disagree-and-commit/ 15
  • 16. Conflating Culture and Opinion, I UK Leadership “Senior UK buyers want to buy from peers. The right sales model has senior salesreps, high quotas, and a lot of support resources.” France Leadership “Senior French buyers want to buy from the next generation. The right sales model has junior salesreps, low quotas, and few support resources.” Reality: both models produced similar gross margin and growth profiles 16
  • 17. Conflating Culture and Opinion, II USA Leadership “We need to strongly position as #1 because IT B2B buyers want to buy from a leader.” France Leadership “In France, we love an underdog, cannot possibility position as #1 in the market.” Reality: France may root for underdogs, but French B2B buyers still value safety 17
  • 18. Conflating Culture and Opinion, III USA Leadership “We need to put marketing programs that we design in a box and our European teammates will execute them. It’s all about scale economies and buyers aren’t that different.” German Leadership “We have 3.0x relative market share in France, 1.5x relative market share in the USA and 0.1x relative market share in Germany. Should our marketing strategy really be the same?” Reality: Germany’s right and it’s about situation, not culture 18
  • 19. Disentangling Culture and Opinion • Awareness of the tendency • Critical thinking • Regional or opinion difference? Could two Brits have the same argument? • If regional difference, driven by situation or culture? • Turn opinion into data • Hypothesis test using market research • Lose any religious attitudes • It’s not about “right” or “wrong” • View everything as an experiment • I am only a Petri dish* Think: “I am only an egg” in Stranger in a Strange Land 19
  • 20. Missing an Opportunity That You Want • One day, you’re likely to miss out on an opportunity that you want • Maybe someone else gets it • Maybe nobody gets it (e.g., reorg) • Worse yet, maybe it’s compounded • Ignominy: you have to report to the person who did get the job • Hypersensitivity: hard work makes for thin skin 20
  • 21. Tips on Handling Missed Opportunities Individual • Accept the change • Patience is the best strategy • If you don’t like something, wait • Scenario analysis -- if you think the boss is a bad choice then: • You are right and others will figure it out • You are wrong and will learn something • Just had a friend leave a big job 2 months before major reorg Organization • Value individuals • Show it through up-front consideration, where possible • Show it through redeployment • Even if into sometimes odd jobs • Salesforce is exemplary at this 21
  • 22. The Biggest Lesson I Learned in Business 22 Me: “I’m so excited, I’m finally going to work at the perfect company!”
  • 23. Success in Business is About Getting What Matters Right • Not about getting everything right • Opportunity cost of unneeded perfection • No, we can’t get shit wrong • Professionalism bar • There’s a reason for GSD • Begs the critical strategic question: • What matters? 23
  • 24. Summary: Managing The Five Challenges That Accompany Growth 1. Next-level scaling: take a pragmatic, balanced view 2. FBI guys: screen them out, culture them in, mutual respect 3. Conflation of culture and opinion: awareness, critical thinking, Petri dishes 4. Not getting the opportunity you want: patience, learning 5. Getting things wrong to get other things right: perspective 24
  • 25. “Sometimes you just have to ride the wave you’re given” 25