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subject: PMprep
The many names of a PM
● Product Manager
● Associate Product Manager
○ Typically new grad
○ Rotation, training
● Project Manager
What does a PM do?
● Manage the product, not the people
● Build a great product for the users
○ Who are the users?
○ What are the features?
○ When will we launch?
The “Perfect” PM
The Perfect PM
Leadership
&
Execution
Technica
l
Product
Industry
Business
------ the ------
Perfect PM
------ is a ------
MYTH
What do you have? What do you need?
What do I assume?
Strategy & Vision Leadership
Customer Focus
Product Design
Analysis & Synthesis
Action Oriented
Prioritization
Project Management
Technical Skills
Communication
Strategy & Vision Leadership
Customer Focus
Product Design
Analysis & Synthesis
Action Oriented
Prioritization
Project Management
Technical Skills
Communication
Coding
Strategy & Vision Leadership
Customer Focus
Product Design
Analysis & Synthesis
Action Oriented
Prioritization
Project Management
Technical Skills
Communication
Marketing
Strategy & Vision Leadership
Customer Focus
Product Design
Analysis & Synthesis
Action Oriented
Prioritization
Project Management
Technical Skills
Communication
Design
Strategy & Vision Leadership
Customer Focus
Product Design
Analysis & Synthesis
Action Oriented
Prioritization
Project Management
Technical Skills
Communication
Project Management
Strategy & Vision Leadership
Customer Focus
Product Design
Analysis & Synthesis
Action Oriented
Prioritization
Project Management
Technical Skills
Communication
Customer Service
The MBA
● Some anti-MBA sentiment in SV
○ Be humble!
● Advantages:
○ Recruiting opportunities at big companies
○ Networking
○ “Checks off” the business skill box
Should I get an MBA?
● Highly dependent on where you go
● Don’t rely on it
○ Big companies: on-campus recruiting
○ Smaller companies: proactively recruit/network
● What else ya got?
○ An MBA isn’t enough
Behavioral Questions
The “Good Enough” Pitch
● Quick walk through
● Demonstrations of
success
● Prompt the interviewer
● Hobbies
The Great Pitch
● Tells an [engaging] story
● Sends a message. Who are you, really?
● Addresses your “stereotype”
The Great Pitch
Who are you?
What have you
done?
Job 1 Job 2
Leadership
Successes
Challenges
Mistakes
Conflicts
Developing Your Stories: Strategy 1:
Developing Your Stories: Strategy 2
STRENGTHS:
● Data driven
● Risk taking
● Thoroughness
● Empathy
● Grit
WEAKNESSES:
● Not detail oriented
● Bluntness
● Sensitivity
● Impatient
WHAT
you say
HOW
you say it+
Goals of Your Answer
Your Response Should:
● Answer the Question
● Deliver a Positive Message
● Be Well Structured
Well-Structured Responses
● State the “Nugget” First
● Situation, Action, Response
Structure 1:
Nugget FirstA: I’m most proud of program
I set up to …
Q: What accomplishment are you
most proud of?
Nugget First
S
A
R
What was the issue?
What did you do about it?
What was the impact?
What’s the message?
Nugget + ...
S.A.R.
3 Big Mistakes
● Too little action
● No message
● “We” instead of “I”
Story 1 Story 2
NUGGET
SITUATION
ACTION
What & Why & How
RESULT
THE MESSAGE
DO DIFFERENTLY
Diagram Your Stories
What about the
bad stuff?
● Mistakes
● Weaknesses
● Failures
-- don’t --
sugarcoat
--- the ---
bad stuff
What I’m looking for
▶ If you’ll admit to bad stuff
▶ If you’ve really failed
▶ How you respond to bad things
What I’m Looking For
These stories can
make you look
--- BETTER ---
Weaknesses, Failures & Mistakes
▶ Be REAL
▶ Be COMPELLING
▶ Be CHANGED
The best candidates connect
Looking Good Through Bad Stuff
Product Design
How would you design an
alarm clock for the blind?
What’s your favorite app? Why?
Pick a Google product.
How would you improve it?
What I’m Looking For
● Communication
● User Empathy
● Creativity
● Judgement
● Product Insight
1. Define the user
■ Ask questions
■ Are there multiple users?
2. Discuss use cases, problems & goals
3. Design
4. Wrap-up
How to Tackle
don’t forget the user
don’t forget the
USER
What’s your
favorite __?
● Mobile App
● Website
● Physical Product
● Company Product
Never, ever walk into a PM interview
without prepping these!
Know:
● Why do you love it?
● Who are the users?
● Why do they love it?
● Who’s the competition?
● What are the alternative
products/solutions?
● What issues are there?
How would you improve it?
show me insight.
not all products
are created equal
Estimation Questions
How much money does Gmail
make in a year?
How many airplanes land
in a day?
How many golf balls can fit
in a bus?
What We’re Looking For
● Smarts
● Ballparking Skill
● Comfort with Numbers
It’s not at all about the final answer
How to Tackle
1. Ask questions to resolve ambiguity
2. Outline / Structure Your Approach
3. Break down the components
4. Sanity Check
■ Do your numbers make sense?
How to Tackle
How to Tackle
● Define the problem
● Ask questions
● LOOK for ambiguity
● Make assumptions explicit
1.Asking Questions
How to Tackle
● Be aware of other approaches
● Consider alternate sources
2. Outline/Structure Your Approach
How to Tackle
● Assume numbers when necessary
● State assumptions explicitly
● Round numbers to make your math easier
● Move along quickly!
3. Break Down Components
How to Tackle
● Do your numbers make sense?
● What if this number were accurate?
4. Sanity Check
How much money does
Gmail make in a year?
Step 1: Ambiguous Information
▶ Just in the US? Or Worldwide?
▶ Profit or revenue?
▶ Past year? Or average over history?
▶ Gmail only? Or include Google Apps?
1.Ask Questions
Step 2: Outline Your Approach
1. Estimate # of Gmail users
2. Estimate annual clicks
○ Top clicks
○ Side clicks
3. Estimate $ per click
○ Top clicks
○ Side clicks
2. Structure Your Approach
Step 3: Break down components
Estimate # of Gmail users in the US
1. Assume 300 million people in the US.
■ Exclude 0 - 12 years old and 65 - 75 years old
■ → ~ 200 million
2. Assume 80% of people use email
■ But 50% only use their work email acct
3. Assume 80% use a “major” email provider
■ Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL, etc.
… and so on …
3. Solve
Step 4: Sanity Check
▶ Suppose you get US rev. = $5 billion.
▶ No, because…
■ Google’s annual revenue is ~$30 billion
■ $16 / US citizen (not just gmail users)
4. Sanity Check
3 Big Mistakes
● Getting lost in
minor details
● Forgetting other
sources
● Crazy assumptions
Case &
Miscellaneous Questions
How would you launch
Amazon in Turkey?
How would you price
a new e-book reader?
User signs up drop after launching
new profiles. What would you do?
Lots of Types
● Problem solving
○ Acquisition rates dropped.
Why?
● Strategy
○ Should we do X or Y?
● Marketing
○ How would you market X to
Y?
● Pricing
○ How would you price X?
● Launching
○ How would you launch X in
country Y?
● Brainstorming
○ Name as many things you
could do with X
Generic Structure
1. Understand/define the
problem
2. Structure
3. Solve
a. Use Instincts
b. Make reasonable
assumptions
● Drive the discussion
● Empathize with the
user
● Show insight
Some Useful Frameworks
● Customer Purchase Decision Making
Process
● Marketing Mix (4 Ps)
● SWOT Analysis
● Five Cs
● Porter’s 5 Forces
not a test of
frameworks!
Useful Metrics & Knowledge
▶ User Acquisition
■ #, growth, active users, etc
▶ Activity
■ What are people doing?
▶ Money
■ Customer acquisition costs
■ Revenue
■ $ growth
Useful Metrics
use your gut instincts.
If you forget everything else...
If you forget everything…
▶ Know who you are
■ (and who we think you are)
▶ Focus on the user
▶ Structure your responses
If you forget everything else...
I could write a
whole book on
this!
Other Resources
Gayle.com
CareerCup.com
CrackingThe
CodingInterview.com
Or, follow me online
• facebook.com/gayle
• twitter.com/gayle
• gayle.com
• gayle@gayle.com
• quora.com
More Resources
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Cracking the Product Manager Interview with Gayle McDowell

  • 1. Cracking the Product Manager Interview with Gayle McDowell www.productschool.com
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  • 8. Cracking the PM Interview Gayle Laakmann McDowell Author, Cracking the PM Interview
  • 9. Hi! I’m Gayle Laakmann McDowell Author Acquisition Interview Coaching <dev> </dev> (CS) (MBA) Hiring Consultant / Interview Training
  • 10. Yes! Slides are online! ● go.gayle.com/PMprepslides gayle@gayle.com subject: PMprep
  • 11. The many names of a PM ● Product Manager ● Associate Product Manager ○ Typically new grad ○ Rotation, training ● Project Manager
  • 12. What does a PM do? ● Manage the product, not the people ● Build a great product for the users ○ Who are the users? ○ What are the features? ○ When will we launch?
  • 15. ------ the ------ Perfect PM ------ is a ------ MYTH
  • 16. What do you have? What do you need? What do I assume?
  • 17. Strategy & Vision Leadership Customer Focus Product Design Analysis & Synthesis Action Oriented Prioritization Project Management Technical Skills Communication
  • 18. Strategy & Vision Leadership Customer Focus Product Design Analysis & Synthesis Action Oriented Prioritization Project Management Technical Skills Communication Coding
  • 19. Strategy & Vision Leadership Customer Focus Product Design Analysis & Synthesis Action Oriented Prioritization Project Management Technical Skills Communication Marketing
  • 20. Strategy & Vision Leadership Customer Focus Product Design Analysis & Synthesis Action Oriented Prioritization Project Management Technical Skills Communication Design
  • 21. Strategy & Vision Leadership Customer Focus Product Design Analysis & Synthesis Action Oriented Prioritization Project Management Technical Skills Communication Project Management
  • 22. Strategy & Vision Leadership Customer Focus Product Design Analysis & Synthesis Action Oriented Prioritization Project Management Technical Skills Communication Customer Service
  • 23. The MBA ● Some anti-MBA sentiment in SV ○ Be humble! ● Advantages: ○ Recruiting opportunities at big companies ○ Networking ○ “Checks off” the business skill box
  • 24. Should I get an MBA? ● Highly dependent on where you go ● Don’t rely on it ○ Big companies: on-campus recruiting ○ Smaller companies: proactively recruit/network ● What else ya got? ○ An MBA isn’t enough
  • 26. The “Good Enough” Pitch ● Quick walk through ● Demonstrations of success ● Prompt the interviewer ● Hobbies
  • 27. The Great Pitch ● Tells an [engaging] story ● Sends a message. Who are you, really? ● Addresses your “stereotype” The Great Pitch
  • 28. Who are you? What have you done?
  • 29. Job 1 Job 2 Leadership Successes Challenges Mistakes Conflicts Developing Your Stories: Strategy 1:
  • 30. Developing Your Stories: Strategy 2 STRENGTHS: ● Data driven ● Risk taking ● Thoroughness ● Empathy ● Grit WEAKNESSES: ● Not detail oriented ● Bluntness ● Sensitivity ● Impatient
  • 31. WHAT you say HOW you say it+ Goals of Your Answer
  • 32. Your Response Should: ● Answer the Question ● Deliver a Positive Message ● Be Well Structured
  • 33. Well-Structured Responses ● State the “Nugget” First ● Situation, Action, Response
  • 34. Structure 1: Nugget FirstA: I’m most proud of program I set up to … Q: What accomplishment are you most proud of? Nugget First
  • 35. S A R What was the issue? What did you do about it? What was the impact? What’s the message? Nugget + ... S.A.R.
  • 36. 3 Big Mistakes ● Too little action ● No message ● “We” instead of “I”
  • 37. Story 1 Story 2 NUGGET SITUATION ACTION What & Why & How RESULT THE MESSAGE DO DIFFERENTLY Diagram Your Stories
  • 38. What about the bad stuff? ● Mistakes ● Weaknesses ● Failures
  • 39. -- don’t -- sugarcoat --- the --- bad stuff
  • 40. What I’m looking for ▶ If you’ll admit to bad stuff ▶ If you’ve really failed ▶ How you respond to bad things What I’m Looking For
  • 41. These stories can make you look --- BETTER ---
  • 42. Weaknesses, Failures & Mistakes ▶ Be REAL ▶ Be COMPELLING ▶ Be CHANGED The best candidates connect Looking Good Through Bad Stuff
  • 44. How would you design an alarm clock for the blind? What’s your favorite app? Why? Pick a Google product. How would you improve it?
  • 45. What I’m Looking For ● Communication ● User Empathy ● Creativity ● Judgement ● Product Insight
  • 46. 1. Define the user ■ Ask questions ■ Are there multiple users? 2. Discuss use cases, problems & goals 3. Design 4. Wrap-up How to Tackle
  • 49. What’s your favorite __? ● Mobile App ● Website ● Physical Product ● Company Product Never, ever walk into a PM interview without prepping these!
  • 50. Know: ● Why do you love it? ● Who are the users? ● Why do they love it? ● Who’s the competition? ● What are the alternative products/solutions? ● What issues are there? How would you improve it?
  • 52. not all products are created equal
  • 54. How much money does Gmail make in a year? How many airplanes land in a day? How many golf balls can fit in a bus?
  • 55. What We’re Looking For ● Smarts ● Ballparking Skill ● Comfort with Numbers It’s not at all about the final answer
  • 56. How to Tackle 1. Ask questions to resolve ambiguity 2. Outline / Structure Your Approach 3. Break down the components 4. Sanity Check ■ Do your numbers make sense? How to Tackle
  • 57. How to Tackle ● Define the problem ● Ask questions ● LOOK for ambiguity ● Make assumptions explicit 1.Asking Questions
  • 58. How to Tackle ● Be aware of other approaches ● Consider alternate sources 2. Outline/Structure Your Approach
  • 59. How to Tackle ● Assume numbers when necessary ● State assumptions explicitly ● Round numbers to make your math easier ● Move along quickly! 3. Break Down Components
  • 60. How to Tackle ● Do your numbers make sense? ● What if this number were accurate? 4. Sanity Check
  • 61. How much money does Gmail make in a year?
  • 62. Step 1: Ambiguous Information ▶ Just in the US? Or Worldwide? ▶ Profit or revenue? ▶ Past year? Or average over history? ▶ Gmail only? Or include Google Apps? 1.Ask Questions
  • 63. Step 2: Outline Your Approach 1. Estimate # of Gmail users 2. Estimate annual clicks ○ Top clicks ○ Side clicks 3. Estimate $ per click ○ Top clicks ○ Side clicks 2. Structure Your Approach
  • 64. Step 3: Break down components Estimate # of Gmail users in the US 1. Assume 300 million people in the US. ■ Exclude 0 - 12 years old and 65 - 75 years old ■ → ~ 200 million 2. Assume 80% of people use email ■ But 50% only use their work email acct 3. Assume 80% use a “major” email provider ■ Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL, etc. … and so on … 3. Solve
  • 65. Step 4: Sanity Check ▶ Suppose you get US rev. = $5 billion. ▶ No, because… ■ Google’s annual revenue is ~$30 billion ■ $16 / US citizen (not just gmail users) 4. Sanity Check
  • 66. 3 Big Mistakes ● Getting lost in minor details ● Forgetting other sources ● Crazy assumptions
  • 68. How would you launch Amazon in Turkey? How would you price a new e-book reader? User signs up drop after launching new profiles. What would you do?
  • 69. Lots of Types ● Problem solving ○ Acquisition rates dropped. Why? ● Strategy ○ Should we do X or Y? ● Marketing ○ How would you market X to Y? ● Pricing ○ How would you price X? ● Launching ○ How would you launch X in country Y? ● Brainstorming ○ Name as many things you could do with X
  • 70. Generic Structure 1. Understand/define the problem 2. Structure 3. Solve a. Use Instincts b. Make reasonable assumptions ● Drive the discussion ● Empathize with the user ● Show insight
  • 71. Some Useful Frameworks ● Customer Purchase Decision Making Process ● Marketing Mix (4 Ps) ● SWOT Analysis ● Five Cs ● Porter’s 5 Forces not a test of frameworks!
  • 72. Useful Metrics & Knowledge ▶ User Acquisition ■ #, growth, active users, etc ▶ Activity ■ What are people doing? ▶ Money ■ Customer acquisition costs ■ Revenue ■ $ growth Useful Metrics
  • 73. use your gut instincts.
  • 74. If you forget everything else...
  • 75. If you forget everything… ▶ Know who you are ■ (and who we think you are) ▶ Focus on the user ▶ Structure your responses If you forget everything else...
  • 76. I could write a whole book on this!
  • 77. Other Resources Gayle.com CareerCup.com CrackingThe CodingInterview.com Or, follow me online • facebook.com/gayle • twitter.com/gayle • gayle.com • gayle@gayle.com • quora.com More Resources
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