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Never too sick to be
retrieved
Per P. Bredmose
Director of training
Air Ambulance Department
Oslo University Hospital @VikingOne_
Wrong place at the wrong time
With the wrong disease
Lack of ...
Medical equipment
Skills
Experience
Volume of “big sick” patients
Knowledge of specific situation
Staff
BASICALLY – NO OTHER OPTION !
crew
TEAM
Flight Nurse
X
Logistics
Team work
Communication
Organisation
Effects of
altitude
Human factors
CRM
Equipment
Planes
Ambulances
Helicopters
I:E ratio
Rise Time
Plateau
Pressure
Inspiratory
Pause
Peak Pressure
Vasopressin
Dobutamine
VV vs VA ECMO
Milrinone
Relaxation
Sedation
Congenital
heart
ICU care
24/7
Patient centered treatment 24 / 7
?
7 yrs
12 yrs
15 yrs
Relevant Experience
One size doesn’t fit all..
hardware
This patient is too
sick to get an RSI !!
This patient is too
sick to be moved !!
This patient is too sick
to be moved..
Let’s bring in the
right TEAM to move
him...
If he is not moved,
he will die here !
The retrieval physician shall always be involved
in desicions regarding transports of “big sick”
patients
Never too sick to be
retrieved
(especially if someone else has judged
the patient not to be transportable)
Go home and make sure that you have a
system that is tuned in for this...
Skills - Team - Competance
Never too sick to be
retrieved
Happy Team = Safe Transport
?
There will always be children to be retrieved –
despite all good intentions………

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Prehospital high acuity transport by air rescue / HEMS

  • 1. Never too sick to be retrieved Per P. Bredmose Director of training Air Ambulance Department Oslo University Hospital @VikingOne_
  • 2. Wrong place at the wrong time
  • 3.
  • 4. With the wrong disease
  • 5. Lack of ... Medical equipment Skills Experience Volume of “big sick” patients Knowledge of specific situation Staff BASICALLY – NO OTHER OPTION !
  • 6.
  • 9.
  • 10.
  • 11.
  • 12. X
  • 13.
  • 14.
  • 15. Logistics Team work Communication Organisation Effects of altitude Human factors CRM Equipment Planes Ambulances Helicopters I:E ratio Rise Time Plateau Pressure Inspiratory Pause Peak Pressure Vasopressin Dobutamine VV vs VA ECMO Milrinone Relaxation Sedation Congenital heart ICU care 24/7 Patient centered treatment 24 / 7
  • 16. ? 7 yrs 12 yrs 15 yrs Relevant Experience
  • 17. One size doesn’t fit all..
  • 19.
  • 20.
  • 21.
  • 22.
  • 23. This patient is too sick to get an RSI !! This patient is too sick to be moved !!
  • 24. This patient is too sick to be moved.. Let’s bring in the right TEAM to move him... If he is not moved, he will die here !
  • 25.
  • 26. The retrieval physician shall always be involved in desicions regarding transports of “big sick” patients Never too sick to be retrieved (especially if someone else has judged the patient not to be transportable)
  • 27.
  • 28. Go home and make sure that you have a system that is tuned in for this... Skills - Team - Competance Never too sick to be retrieved
  • 29. Happy Team = Safe Transport
  • 30. ?
  • 31. There will always be children to be retrieved – despite all good intentions………

Editor's Notes

  1. If only a larger hospital has something more to offer. This is here the desicion comes in - who to decide who is not for transport
  2. Sætte ind white coats Why is it that we for primary missions believe that we as prehospital crews can do this better than bringing the hospital teams out ??
  3. Sette karrikerte pediatricians And then we suddenly think that it is OK to take the hospital teams out ??
  4. Paatient need senteret
  5. Systems are different.. .and one size doesn’t fitt all
  6. This is an old London HEMS picture with some legends... However.. One would not imagine....
  7. This is an old London HEMS picture with some legends... However.. One would not imagine....