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how to drive user engagement like
Amy Jo Kim Ph.D. CEO, Shufflebrain © 2017 All Rights Reserved
Do you sometimes wonder….
• if you’re asking the right questions
to get to product/market fit?
• if you’ll find your passionate super-
fans or lose out to your competitors?
• If you’ll avoid the “leaky bucket”
syndrome with your innovation
processes?
Amy Jo Kim, Ph.D.
Game Designer &
Startup Coach
Ultima Online The Sims
Rock Band Covet Fashion
Ultima Online The Sims
Rock Band Covet Fashion
What You Will Learn Today
3 blind spots you need to avoid

to find product/market fit & 

drive long-term engagement
with Game Thinking
What is this???
Game Thinking ≠ Gamification
“You keep using
that word… I do
not think it
means what
you think it
means”
what is
Game
Thinking?
what is
Game
Thinking?
what is
Game
Thinking?
what is
Game
Thinking?
what is
Game
Thinking?
what is
Game
Thinking?
smarter, faster

innovation
3
Blind Spot #3
Falling in love with
your idea
What We Offer
resources workshops coaching
design services
Peter
Drucker
The best way
to have a good
idea is to have
lots of ideas
Linus Pauling
Scientist
don’t fall in love
with an idea;
fall in love with
solving a problem
& learning from

your customers
Blind Spot #2
building the wrong
MVP
2
Fun is just
another word
for learning
Raph Koster
author, A Theory of Fun
the best MVP is your Core Learning Loop
1
Blind Spot #1
listening to the wrong
customers
Create something
that a few people
love - even if most
people don’t get

it right away
Paul Buchheit
Partner, Y-Combinator
find & leverage
your super-fans 

then expand 

from that base
Journey to Mastery & Core Learning Loop
In case you don’t know - Slack started out as
the bare-bones in-house communications tool
for a distributed team building an innovative
co-op multiplayer game.
a small, distributed development group
When that game failed financially, Steward
Butterfield - the team leader - pivoted and
turned their in-house tool into a better, faster
team communications product.
is for Enthusiasts
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
Mastery
journey to mastery
is for Enthusiastswhat is my customer’s end-to-end learning experience?
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
Mastery
how does it evolve over time?
is for Enthusiasts
Discovery
Discovery is for Visitors
Is this right for me? What’s the value proposition?
is for EnthusiastsDiscovery

is for visitors
is for EnthusiastsOnboarding is for Newbies
Discovery
Onboarding
How do I learn the ropes? When do I start getting value?
is for EnthusiastsOnboarding

is for newbies

Learn the ropes with a friendly bot
is for EnthusiastsHabit-building is for Regulars
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
What pulls me back? What am I getting better at?
is for EnthusiastsHabit-building

is for regulars

Customized group chat with
emojis, bots & integrations
is for EnthusiastsMastery is for Enthusiasts
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
Mastery
How can I leverage the skills & knowledge I’ve built?
is for EnthusiastsMastery

is for enthusiasts

Launch a channel, program a bot,
integrate your app
Help your
customers
get better
at something
that matters
Create an
experience
that gets
better
as your customers
become more skilled
Learning Loop =
making
customers
more skillful
Core

Learning 

Loop
Check Updates
urge to connect 

with your team
Read & Respond 

to Updates
No More Updates
Need my attention
Customize

your channel &
expressions
Customized
Notifications
Check Updates
urge to connect 

with your team
Read & Respond 

to Updates
No More Updates
Need my attention
Customize

your channel &
expressions
Engaging Activity
Internal
Trigger
Repeatable,
pleasurable
activity 

that satisfies
an internal
urge or need
Stage 1: Repeatable, pleasurable activity
Check Updates
urge to connect 

with your team
Read & Respond 

to Updates
No More Updates
Need my attention
Customize

your channel &
expressions
Simple
Feedback
System
promotes 

learning &
competence
Simple
Feedback
Stage 1: Simple, skill-building

feedback
Progression,
investment &
engaged
triggers 

pull people
back
Check Updates
urge to connect 

with your team
Read & Respond 

to Updates
No More Updates
Need my attention
Customize

your channel &
expressions
Progress & Investment
Check
Notifications
Engaged
Trigger
Stage 1: Progress & investment systems
Customized group
chat with emojis,
bots & integrations
Stage 1: Engaged Trigger
Game
Thinking
Teardown
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
Mastery
journey to mastery
is for Enthusiasts
Social
Discovery 

via friends
is for Enthusiasts
Exploratory
Social
Onboarding 

messing around,
trying out filters.
learning with
friends
is for Enthusiasts
Engaged
Habits

checking out
what’s new -
filters, snaps,
stories
is for Enthusiasts
Heading to
Mastery

build a following
by sharing
curated glimpses
of daily life
Core
Learning 

Loop
View Snaps

from friends,
celebrities, brands
I’m bored 

What’s New?
Check Stats 

& Feedback
No More Snaps

for me to read
Create A Snap
try out a new filter, 

add to a story
View Snaps

from friends,
celebrities, brands
I’m bored 

What’s New?
Check Stats 

& Feedback
No More Snaps

for me to read
Create A Snap
try out a new filter, 

add to a story
Repeatable,
pleasurable
activity 

that satisfies
an internal
urge or need
Internal
Trigger
Repeatable, Pleasurable Activity
View Snaps

from friends,
celebrities, brands
I’m bored 

What’s New?
Check Stats 

& Feedback
No More Snaps

for me to read
Create A Snap
try out a new filter, 

add to a story
Simple
Feedback
Simple
Feedback
System
promotes 

learning &
competence
No More Snaps

Need my attention
View Snaps

from friends,
celebrities, brands
I’m bored 

What’s New?
Check Stats 

& Feedback
No More Snaps

for me to read
Create A Snap
try out a new filter, 

add to a story
Progress & Investment
Progress,
Investment
& Engaged
Triggers

pull people
back
Engaged
Trigger
Journey to Mastery
We succeeded because we
said “No” to the tempting
quick wins that strayed
outside of our core vision -
and focused on what really
mattered.
Cindy Au
Kickstarter community manager
2009-2014
is for Enthusiasts
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
Mastery
Funder’s Journey
Social
Discovery 

via friends &
followers
is for EnthusiastsExploratory
Onboarding 

with layers
of engagement
is for EnthusiastsEngaged
Habits

rooting for your
project(s) to
succeed
is for EnthusiastsHeading to
Mastery

deepening
relationships,
getting special
perks, betting on
projects that get
funded & ship
Learning 

Loop
Explore Campaigns
watch videos, browse
rewards, see who’s
funding what
FUNDERS
Something New
that I’m
passionate about
Check
Campaign Stats
Donate

choose a reward level
and make a donation
Share

tell your story &
support the campaign
Repeatable,
pleasurable
activity 

that satisfies
an internal
urge or need
Explore Campaigns
watch videos, browse
rewards, see who’s
funding what
Something New
that I’m
passionate about
Internal
Trigger
Repeatable, Pleasurable Activity
Donate

choose a reward level
and make a donation
Share

tell your story &
support the campaign
Repeatable,
pleasurable
activity 

that satisfies
an internal
urge or need
Simple
Feedback
promotes 

learning &
competence
Explore Campaigns
watch videos, browse
rewards, see who’s
funding what
Something New
that I’m
passionate about
Feedback: join the community
Donate

choose a reward level
and make a donation
Share

tell your story &
support the campaign
Simple
Feedback
promotes 

learning &
competence
Progress,
Investment
& Engaged
Triggers

pull people
back
Explore Campaigns
watch videos, browse
rewards, see who’s
funding what
Something New
that I’m
passionate about
Check Stats

Sharing & Campaign
Deepen Investment at the right moment
Donate

choose a reward level
and make a donation
Share

tell your story &
support the campaign
Engaged Trigger
Progress,
Investment
& Engaged
Triggers

pull people
back
is for Enthusiasts
Discovery
Onboarding
Habit-Building
Mastery
Creator’s Journey
is for EnthusiastsOnboarding
for Creators

is for EnthusiastsHabit-
building for
Creators

engaged trigger
is for EnthusiastsMastery for
Creators

funded!
is for EnthusiastsMastery
leads to
greater
impact

Learning 

Loop
Creators
Read & Answer
Messages

engage with your
community
How’s my
Campaign
Doing?
Check
Campaign Stats
No More Messages
Need my attention
Create New 

update, reward level,
social media post
Read & Answer
Messages

engage with your
community
No More Messages
Need my attention
Engaging
activity 

that satisfies
an internal
urge or need Create New 

update, reward level,
social media post
Repeatable, Pleasurable Activity
How’s my
Campaign
Doing?
Internal
Trigger
Engaging
activity 

that satisfies
an internal
urge or need
How’s my
Campaign
Doing?
Read & Answer
Messages

engage with your
community
No More Messages
Need my attention
Simple
Feedback
Simple
Feedback
System
promotes 

learning &
competence
Create New 

update, reward level,
social media post
Simple
Feedback
System
promotes 

learning &
competence
How’s my
Campaign
Doing?
Read &Answer
Messages

engage with your
community
No More Messages
Need my attention
Progress & Investment
Progress,
Investment
& Engaged
Triggers

pull people
back
Check
Campaign
Stats
Engaged
Trigger
Create New 

update, reward level,
social media post
Progress,
Investment
& Engaged
Triggers

pull people
back
total raised
amount left to raise
days to go
# of backers
Cooperative
Mechanics
Cooperative
Mechanics
Game Thinking Design Tips
Game Thinking Design Tips
1. a strong vision helps you say “no”
Game Thinking Design Tips
1. a strong vision helps you say “no”
2. Engage your customers with a Learning Loop
Game Thinking Design Tips
1. a strong vision helps you say “no”
2. Engage your customers with a Learning Loop
3. Reward mastery with impact & opportunity
Game Thinking Design Tips
1. a strong vision helps you say “no”
2. Engage your customers with a Learning Loop
3. Reward mastery with impact & opportunity
4. Use cooperative stats to build group identity
Game Thinking Design Tips
1. a strong vision helps you say “no”
2. Engage your customers with a Learning Loop
3. Reward mastery with impact & opportunity
4. Use cooperative stats to build group identity
5. Use spotlights to showcase excellence
3 Blind Spots
that keep you from
building a compelling
& successful MVP
Blind Spot #3
Falling in love with
your idea
In case you don’t know - Slack started out as
the bare-bones in-house communications tool
for a distributed team building an innovative
co-op multiplayer game.
When that game failed financially, Steward
Butterfield - the team leader - pivoted and
turned their in-house tool into a better, faster
team communications product.
Blind Spot #2
Building the wrong
MVP
what’s the fastest path to a high-learning MVP?
The best MVP is a Core Learning Loop
start with a
Learning
Loop
Blind Spot #1
Listening to the
wrong customers
Everett Rogers
Scientist, Bell Labs
Playtesting
Progression
who do you listen to?
at what dev stage?
Early Majority
Closed Beta
Friends & Family
Team & 

Department
typical
play-testing
progression 

Early Majority
Closed Beta
Friends & Family
Team & 

Department
super-fan
play-testing
progression 

Super-fan
Community
Our mission was to create an mobile
game for fashionistas that would feature
hot-off-the-runway designer clothes, and
bring in a much broader female audience
than any previous game they’d published.
play-test your ideas on aspirational early adopters
run dozens of small, high-learning experiments
a step-by-
step system
to 

accelerate
product
innovation
Game Thinking Toolkit
Build your roadmap with Game Thinking
You can use an eraser

on the drafting table 

or a sledge hammer

on the construction site
Frank Lloyd Wright
Architect
Game
Thinking
Roadmap
X-axis:
customer’s
journey
Game
Thinking
Roadmap
Y-axis:
developer’s
journey
X-axis:
customer’s
journey
Game
Thinking
Roadmap
Y-axis:
developer’s
journey
X-axis:
customer’s
journey
Game
Thinking
Roadmap
start with a
Learning
Loop
solve a real problem for a small group
is for Enthusiasts
give customers something to get better at
drive engagement with (the right) social mechanics
are you ready
to innovate
smarter & faster
with
Game
Thinking?
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Game Thinking Toolkit
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